ECF: P1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs (4) Cleveland Cavaliers | BOS 2-0

[mg]

Is it a hot take to say Celtics have a better chance of beating the Cavs then the Rockets do the Dubs?

Honestly it's hard to say. I think Tatum and Brown proved the elite talent is there, and the Cavs are many times worse than the Dubs. CP3 played old for a lot of the season but elevated his game recently.

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

[XxIronChainzxX]

Is it a hot take to say Celtics have a better chance of beating the Cavs then the Rockets do the Dubs?

Honestly it's hard to say. I think Tatum and Brown proved the elite talent is there, and the Cavs are many times worse than the Dubs. CP3 played old for a lot of the season but elevated his game recently.

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

Even worse? We'll see how this series goes. But do you honestly think this Cavs team has any real shot against the Dubs?

[Blaze4G]

Is it a hot take to say Celtics have a better chance of beating the Cavs then the Rockets do the Dubs?

Honestly it's hard to say. I think Tatum and Brown proved the elite talent is there, and the Cavs are many times worse than the Dubs. CP3 played old for a lot of the season but elevated his game recently.

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

The thing is, Celtics has improved at sg, sf, arguably PG and center. The cavs have downgraded at PG, JR seems more inconsistent and love seems to have regressed. So the argument can easily be made the cavs are not as good as last year and the Celtics are better. We just have to wait and see how that translates on the court.

[Stillwater]

Honestly it's hard to say. I think Tatum and Brown proved the elite talent is there, and the Cavs are many times worse than the Dubs. CP3 played old for a lot of the season but elevated his game recently.

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

The thing is, Celtics has improved at sg, sf, arguably PG and center. The cavs have downgraded at PG, JR seems more inconsistent and love seems to have regressed. So the argument can easily be made the cavs are not as good as last year and the Celtics are better. We just have to wait and see how that translates on the court.

Hill is an upgrade defensively and a better floor general than the closer the Cavs gave up, not much of a downgrade overall.
Love has been injured and playing through injury so if he seems to have regressed it's the wrong assumption. He is getting better by the day. Smith was terribly unreliable during the regular season and literally flipped the proverbial switch and has been damn good the entire playoffs. I think the assumptions the Cavs are not as good as last year are incorrect overall.

[Blaze4G]

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

The thing is, Celtics has improved at sg, sf, arguably PG and center. The cavs have downgraded at PG, JR seems more inconsistent and love seems to have regressed. So the argument can easily be made the cavs are not as good as last year and the Celtics are better. We just have to wait and see how that translates on the court.

Hill is an upgrade defensively and a better floor general than the closer the Cavs gave up, not much of a downgrade overall.
Love has been injured and playing through injury so if he seems to have regressed it's the wrong assumption. He is getting better by the day. Smith was terribly unreliable during the regular season and literally flipped the proverbial switch and has been damn good the entire playoffs. I think the assumptions the Cavs are not as good as last year are incorrect overall.

Yeah are we talking about the same JR Smith averaging 8 points on 40% shooting? Wow so he was that bad during the regular season that this is now his "switch"?

Raptors didn't really have anyone good defending Love so let's see how he does against horford.

Really? Hill is not much of a downgrade compared to Kyrie...oh wait it's Stillwater replying.
Nevermind, hill is top 5 PG.

[Warchant]

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

The thing is, Celtics has improved at sg, sf, arguably PG and center. The cavs have downgraded at PG, JR seems more inconsistent and love seems to have regressed. So the argument can easily be made the cavs are not as good as last year and the Celtics are better. We just have to wait and see how that translates on the court.

Hill is an upgrade defensively and a better floor general than the closer the Cavs gave up, not much of a downgrade overall.
Love has been injured and playing through injury so if he seems to have regressed it's the wrong assumption. He is getting better by the day. Smith was terribly unreliable during the regular season and literally flipped the proverbial switch and has been damn good the entire playoffs. I think the assumptions the Cavs are not as good as last year are incorrect overall.

JR has flipped the switch LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL

[Triple M]

Celtics have 4 players avg around 17 in these playoffs with Brown leading in their 1st round and Tatum in the 2nd. Brown now looks healthy going by his game 5 where he poured in 24 on great efficiency. in fact all 4 of the Celtics scorers have been pretty efficient so far in these playoffs. Unlike Indy/Toronto there isn't 1 player to shut down on the Celtics. interested in seeing how he Cavs defend them because i don't think their other 2 opponents did much in testing them on that end

[Roddy]

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[yoyoboy]

The thing is, Celtics has improved at sg, sf, arguably PG and center. The cavs have downgraded at PG, JR seems more inconsistent and love seems to have regressed. So the argument can easily be made the cavs are not as good as last year and the Celtics are better. We just have to wait and see how that translates on the court.

Hill is an upgrade defensively and a better floor general than the closer the Cavs gave up, not much of a downgrade overall.
Love has been injured and playing through injury so if he seems to have regressed it's the wrong assumption. He is getting better by the day. Smith was terribly unreliable during the regular season and literally flipped the proverbial switch and has been damn good the entire playoffs. I think the assumptions the Cavs are not as good as last year are incorrect overall.

Yeah are we talking about the same JR Smith averaging 8 points on 40% shooting? Wow so he was that bad during the regular season that this is now his "switch"?

Raptors didn't really have anyone good defending Love so let's see how he does against horford.

Really? Hill is not much of a downgrade compared to Kyrie...oh wait it's Stillwater replying.
Nevermind, hill is top 5 PG.

JR's defense has been pretty good after being completely awful in the RS. His offense wasn't there against the Pacers but he found his stroke against Toronto so we'll see if that's sustainable.

Also Siakam guarded Love for stretches and he's better than anyone Boston can put on him, aside from maybe Horford which would result in Horford being taken out of the lane.

Hill is clearly better than Kyrie when it comes to defense and playmaking, but yeah saying he's not much of a downgrade overall is inaccurate. Kyrie's isolation ability is really valuable and gives him the edge. I'm definitely not as high on his sheer impact as most, but still we'd be a better team with him replacing Hill.

[Warchant]

Hill is an upgrade defensively and a better floor general than the closer the Cavs gave up, not much of a downgrade overall.
Love has been injured and playing through injury so if he seems to have regressed it's the wrong assumption. He is getting better by the day. Smith was terribly unreliable during the regular season and literally flipped the proverbial switch and has been damn good the entire playoffs. I think the assumptions the Cavs are not as good as last year are incorrect overall.

Yeah are we talking about the same JR Smith averaging 8 points on 40% shooting? Wow so he was that bad during the regular season that this is now his "switch"?

Raptors didn't really have anyone good defending Love so let's see how he does against horford.

Really? Hill is not much of a downgrade compared to Kyrie...oh wait it's Stillwater replying.
Nevermind, hill is top 5 PG.

JR's defense has been pretty good after being completely awful in the RS. His offense wasn't there against the Pacers but he found his stroke against Toronto so we'll see if that's sustainable.

Also Siakam guarded Love for stretches and he's better than anyone Boston can put on him, aside from maybe Horford which would result in Horford being taken out of the lane.

Hill is clearly better than Kyrie when it comes to defense and playmaking, but yeah saying he's not much of a downgrade overall is inaccurate. Kyrie's isolation ability is really valuable and gives him the edge. I'm definitely not as high on his sheer impact as most, but still we'd be a better team with him replacing Hill.

JR guarded who vs Indy?

[yoyoboy]

Yeah are we talking about the same JR Smith averaging 8 points on 40% shooting? Wow so he was that bad during the regular season that this is now his "switch"?

Raptors didn't really have anyone good defending Love so let's see how he does against horford.

Really? Hill is not much of a downgrade compared to Kyrie...oh wait it's Stillwater replying.
Nevermind, hill is top 5 PG.

JR's defense has been pretty good after being completely awful in the RS. His offense wasn't there against the Pacers but he found his stroke against Toronto so we'll see if that's sustainable.

Also Siakam guarded Love for stretches and he's better than anyone Boston can put on him, aside from maybe Horford which would result in Horford being taken out of the lane.

Hill is clearly better than Kyrie when it comes to defense and playmaking, but yeah saying he's not much of a downgrade overall is inaccurate. Kyrie's isolation ability is really valuable and gives him the edge. I'm definitely not as high on his sheer impact as most, but still we'd be a better team with him replacing Hill.

JR guarded who vs Indy?

Oladipo, and he did a decent job on him considering Dipo is a top 10 player and an absolute monster on both ends.

[Duke4life831]

I'm just happy basketball is back. These last few days have been boring as hell.

[Ballerhogger]

TT and love vs Horford , I don’t see anyone guarding Lebron in the post on the Cs

And how does Lebron get the ball in post?
-- Bring it there himself slowly? (I.e., back somebody down?) This isn't the previous century.
-- Bring it there himself quickly? That's just a drive -- something he is of course very very very very good at, but not something ADDITIONAL to be discussed.
-- Via an entry pass? Great idea. Who's making the pass, out of what kind of previous action?

they have several passers Love for one, geroge hill , he could literally back up Morris .

[Tigersrule]

Expecting a huge game from Rozier. Dude usually does really well vs the Cavs. Watch him get a few offensive rebounds too

[Warchant]

JR's defense has been pretty good after being completely awful in the RS. His offense wasn't there against the Pacers but he found his stroke against Toronto so we'll see if that's sustainable.

Also Siakam guarded Love for stretches and he's better than anyone Boston can put on him, aside from maybe Horford which would result in Horford being taken out of the lane.

Hill is clearly better than Kyrie when it comes to defense and playmaking, but yeah saying he's not much of a downgrade overall is inaccurate. Kyrie's isolation ability is really valuable and gives him the edge. I'm definitely not as high on his sheer impact as most, but still we'd be a better team with him replacing Hill.

JR guarded who vs Indy?

Oladipo, and he did a decent job on him considering Dipo is a top 10 player and an absolute monster on both ends.

Top 10 SG? Top 10 player in NBA?

[yoyoboy]

JR guarded who vs Indy?

Oladipo, and he did a decent job on him considering Dipo is a top 10 player and an absolute monster on both ends.

Top 10 SG? Top 10 player in NBA?

2nd best SG. Top 10 player.

I don't expect you to agree, I know your agenda.

[xfactor]

Honestly it's hard to say. I think Tatum and Brown proved the elite talent is there, and the Cavs are many times worse than the Dubs. CP3 played old for a lot of the season but elevated his game recently.

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

Even worse? We'll see how this series goes. But do you honestly think this Cavs team has any real shot against the Dubs?

Lebron has continually embarrassed those that doubt him. Yes?

[Darth Celtic]

I'm just glad basketball is back. Like 99% of c's fans, i'm just going to sit back and enjoy at least 4 more games of our young guys fighting. Of course I want to win, but unlike the sixers/bucks series, i'm not emotionally invested in HAVING to win.

Just have fun young pups.

Oh, and stillwater, never change, just be you. You for sure never look like a fool.

[AdagioPace]

finally NBA drama is back
(because I dont' care about people putting a basketball into the hole, honestly)

[XxIronChainzxX]

If the Cavs are "many times worse than the Dubs" what does that make the Raptors?
Anyway I think Lebron already faced his biggest hurdle in the EC getting past the Pacers tbh. I already heard all this Celtic talk last season and they flopped big time. Maybe Tatum and an improved Brown will be enough...I have my doubts but let's see.

Even worse? We'll see how this series goes. But do you honestly think this Cavs team has any real shot against the Dubs?

Lebron has continually embarrassed those that doubt him. Yes?

Are you saying I doubt LeBron? I don't. But we've seen the Dubs with KD play LeBron in the post-season before and dominate. It was a 4-1 series, with one close loss and one win that only happened because Cleveland broke a few shooting records. I'm not saying that LeBron might not find an ever higher gear this year - but his team's gotten worse, and the Dubs haven't.