Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9

Post #21 » by **bwgood77** » Tue May 15, 2018 5:58 pm

Blonde wrote:Schroder is a below average starter in this league who obviously thinks too highly of himself. He’s also been known as a terrible locker room presence and has a low basketball IQ. Demanding to be traded to a playoff team is another huge red flag for a guy who has proven nothing. I want no part of him.

He also is one of the worst defensive point guards in the league....ranked 96th in DRPM, below Payton and Ulis... http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/DRPM/position/1

TOO · Post #22 » by **TOO** » Tue May 15, 2018 5:59 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

I don't think there is any real difference between Schroder and Knight.

Post #23 » by **bwgood77** » Tue May 15, 2018 5:59 pm

dremill24 wrote:I have to imagine Schroder ending up in Indiana would make Cory Joseph more available, who I really like as a target for this team with no good PGs. Though I suppose it’s also likely he would be outgoing in a Schroder deal too, meh.

I like Cory Joseph. If I was Indiana I'd much rather keep rolling with Collison as the starter as opposed to Schroder.

gaspar · Post #24 » by **gaspar** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:02 pm

TOO wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

I don't think there is any real difference between Schroder and Knight.

Knight can shoot and is a good guy. Schroder is a little bitch.

saintEscaton · Post #25 » by **saintEscaton** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:20 pm

If Knight can shoot, Schroder is a future All-Star. Well below league average career True Shooting % and he refused to take a smaller role the season before

Villalobos · Post #26 » by **Villalobos** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:35 pm

Elfrid was better than Schroder last year in pretty much every way except PPG and FT%:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Elfrid+Payton&player_id1_select=Elfrid+Payton&y1=2018&player_id1=paytoel01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Dennis+Schroder&player_id2_select=Dennis+Schroder&y2=2018&player_id2=schrode01&idx=players

and even with Elfrid's bad FT%, his TS% was still better than Schroder's

(not saying the Suns should keep Elfrid, just that Schroder is super-overrated and a super-douche besides)

dremill24 · Post #27 » by **dremill24** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:36 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
dremill24 wrote:I have to imagine Schroder ending up in Indiana would make Cory Joseph more available, who I really like as a target for this team with no good PGs. Though I suppose it’s also likely he would be outgoing in a Schroder deal too, meh.

I like Cory Joseph. If I was Indiana I'd much rather keep rolling with Collison as the starter as opposed to Schroder.

As would I..just following the narrative through cause...I can.

Saberestar · Post #28 » by **Saberestar** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:45 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

If we draft a big I would like to trade for him if his value is low.

He is a veteran young and he is on a good contract.

Saberestar · Post #29 » by **Saberestar** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:49 pm

gaspar wrote:
TOO wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

I don't think there is any real difference between Schroder and Knight.

Knight can shoot and is a good guy. Schroder is a little bitch.

Knight refused to play for the Suns. He is not "a good guy" in terms of professionalism.

https://www.google.es/amp/arizonasports.com/story/1057912/brandon-knight-refused-play-suns-kings/amp/

m1chal · Post #30 » by **m1chal** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:52 pm

I'm taking Knight over Schroder and Elf over both of them. Elf without this thing on his head will be so much better. Quote me on that ;-)

gaspar · Post #31 » by **gaspar** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:59 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

If we draft a big I would like to trade for him if his value is low.

He is a veteran young and he is on a good contract.

On what planet is $15M per year for Dennis **** Schroder a good contract?

saintEscaton · Post #32 » by **saintEscaton** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:04 pm

gaspar wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

If we draft a big I would like to trade for him if his value is low.

He is a veteran young and he is on a good contract.

On what planet is $15M per year for Dennis **** Schroder a good contract?

A Top 15 starting PG is better than $14M a year for Brandon "Shaqtin' A Fool" Knight who doesn't deserve anything other than coming off the bench

thamadkant · Post #33 » by **thamadkant** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:09 pm

Schroder and Payton are players who tank their effort when the game is not competitive.

On their best ... As in when they're trying...they're more than capable to be contributors

gaspar · Post #34 » by **gaspar** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:10 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
gaspar wrote:
Saberestar wrote:If we draft a big I would like to trade for him if his value is low.

He is a veteran young and he is on a good contract.

On what planet is $15M per year for Dennis **** Schroder a good contract?

A Top 15 starting PG is better than $14M a year for Brandon "Shaqtin' A Fool" Knight who doesn't deserve anything other than coming off the bench

I'm not sure he's a top-15 PG in the Eastern Conference.

Post #35 » by **bwgood77** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:22 pm

It doesn't matter to me who is "better" or more overpaid between Knight and Schroder. If either of those guys or Payton are our starting point guards we will not be a playoff team or probably even close to one. The Suns will not be fun to watch.

Bogyo · Post #36 » by **Bogyo** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:23 pm

Milwaukee? Lol, Eric gets shafted. Really hopes he thanks Rich Paul for the great advice on the max contract once he signs that 3/45 contract of his this offseason.

thamadkant · Post #37 » by **thamadkant** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:03 pm

Bledsoe would be lucky to get 12 million a year

YouTube · Post #38 » by **Kerrsed** » Tue May 15, 2018 11:04 pm

TOO wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

I don't think there is any real difference between Schroder and Knight.

There is, Schroder isnt a 3 point shooter.

Knight>>>Schroder

Post #39 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Wed May 16, 2018 1:06 am

Congrats on winning the lottery. Would you guys happen to want Dragic back? Seems like the perfect situation to usher in his fellow countrymen into the NBA.

AtheJ415 · Post #40 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed May 16, 2018 1:09 am

Qwigglez wrote:Schroeder played fairly well in the playoffs against John Wall last year. He’s a good 4th banana, and I wouldn’t mind trading for him if all it took was Knight and the 16th pick.

It shouldn't take the 16th pick. There are only a couple teams who should want him and neither are the 2 he mentions wanting to go to. I don't think Milwaukee or Indiana would give anything more valuable than 16th for him that a rebuilding team would want. I would offer our 2nd at MOST, and even then I kind of prefer Bongo on a rookie deal over Schroeder on his. So yeah...maybe a heavily protected future 1st or for knight straight up imo.

PGs simply are not that valuable unless you are an MVP candidate level one. That's why I keep getting absolutely baffled at these 3-4 1st rounder for Kemba offers I see floating around from fans.