payne wrote:What you guys think about HB + scrubs for Andrew Wiggins (value at all time low i think.)
Wiggins' upcoming contract will turn off a lot of teams IMO.
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payne wrote:What you guys think about HB + scrubs for Andrew Wiggins (value at all time low i think.)
arkuo wrote:payne wrote:What you guys think about HB + scrubs for Andrew Wiggins (value at all time low i think.)
Wiggins' upcoming contract will turn off a lot of teams IMO.
dirkforpres wrote:arkuo wrote:Mr B wrote:
I wouldn’t be upset with that lineup at all. They will need a true shooter/scorer at the 2 or 3 within the next year or two though.
I'd take a flyer on someone like Hezonja for the full MLE or something. Lights out shooter. Unproven in Orlando but under Carlisle maybe he'll flourish on set plays.
Our only real competitor on maxing out Capela is PHX. Although the most they can offer now is just $18M, they have to renounce like 7 players to get room for a max for Capela. But that brings their roster count down to 8 players.
Im warming up to the idea of Capela. Even if we dont get him the least we can do is make Houston go way over the cap if they want to keep CP3. Sure they wont close shop, but it makes a little bit harder paying that lux tax to end up 2nd place to the Warriors for the next 5 years with CP3, Harden and Capela all locked up to the max if ever.
I don’t like the approach of maxing Capela just to screw the Rockets. They would be fools not to match and then we are stuck without a solid big man for yet another year. I think we need to either draft a center (Ayton or Bamba), trade for one using Wes (Whiteside), or sign an UFA (Cousins or Deandre).
Capela should only be considered if the Rockets made it known they would not match.
fuller4379 wrote:I could see the Mavs making a big offer to Capella. Anything to screw over Houston.
dirkforpres wrote:How would y’all feel about Wes, Motley, and #34 for Derozan?
arkuo wrote:payne wrote:What you guys think about HB + scrubs for Andrew Wiggins (value at all time low i think.)
Wiggins' upcoming contract will turn off a lot of teams IMO.
Mr B wrote:dirkforpres wrote:How would y’all feel about Wes, Motley, and #34 for Derozan?
I’d feel great about it but I doubt Toronto would.
dirkforpres wrote:Mr B wrote:dirkforpres wrote:How would y’all feel about Wes, Motley, and #34 for Derozan?
I’d feel great about it but I doubt Toronto would.
Only reason I feel like it’s a possibility is because of how horrific he was in that Cleveland series on both ends... that and the fact that they have a glaring hole at PF so Motley is an interesting prospect for them. This trade gives a combination of expiring, a pick, and a young, intriguing prospect.
You’re probably right though.
dirkforpres wrote:How would y’all feel about Wes, Motley, and #34 for Derozan?
lebron stopper wrote:dirkforpres wrote:Mr B wrote:
I’d feel great about it but I doubt Toronto would.
Only reason I feel like it’s a possibility is because of how horrific he was in that Cleveland series on both ends... that and the fact that they have a glaring hole at PF so Motley is an interesting prospect for them. This trade gives a combination of expiring, a pick, and a young, intriguing prospect.
You’re probably right though.
I know DeRozan had a truly awful playoff series against Cleveland but that is still a brutal return for him. That's the kind of trade that can go awry and get a GM on the hot seat. The kind of prospect I'd want back for DeRozan would be someone who oozes potential (someone like Kyle Kuzma, who I personally want in return for DeRozan), not a G-League stash which the Raptors FO can pull out of their ass at any time.
Mr B wrote:arkuo wrote:payne wrote:What you guys think about HB + scrubs for Andrew Wiggins (value at all time low i think.)
Wiggins' upcoming contract will turn off a lot of teams IMO.
I want no part of Wiggins. I just think he’s extremely overrated. I’d rather just keep Barnes.
SLATER wrote:I think people referencing Wiggins here are thinking practically... I think he's more valuable than (what I perceive) his trade value to be. I also think Wiggins will be better than whoever we draft at 5. I would do a deal for Wiggins with the 5th pick being the centerpiece of the deal. I definitely recognize that many would hate that deal tho! I'm just hedging my bets on what a 5th pick projects to be historically versus how high teams value these picks.
The past 20 years drafting at 5 gets you:
DeAaron Fox, Kris Dunn, Mario Hezonja, Dante Exum, Alex Len, Thomas Robinson, Jonas Valanciunas, Demarcus Cousins, Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love, Jeff Green, Shelden Williams, Ray Felton, Devin Harris, Dwyane Wade, Nikoloz Tskitishvlii, Jason Richardson, Mike Miller, Jonathan Bender, Vince Carter.
3 (Cousins, Carter & Wade) are better than Wiggins and maybe Love depending on how you feel about him and Wiggins career arc at 23.