Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll)

Nyce_1 · Post #161 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:31 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:I don't get the let's pair JJJ/Bamba with Isaac love fest. Do you not remember that, that didn't work with Ibaka and Biz?

Both rookies are already better than Biz, lol. Isaac is better than Orl Ibaka. He just can't stay healthy.

Nemesis21 · Post #162 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:31 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
NotACat wrote:A front court of AG-Isaac-MPJ sounds amazing, especially if we expect Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C.

Who exactly is expecting Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C?

The guy is not a center.

I am. But I don't want to pair with Bamba/JJJ.

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #163 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:31 pm

Trae's defensive issue can be hid and maybe it's not as bad as what was shown in college. Did Kruger hide him/rest him on D because he was the offense for OU? I'm willing to bet he will improve on this and be extremely coach-able. Defense is an effort thing IMO, you can't teach effort.

Trae's impact on the floor will help every other starter on the Magic from Day 1

We finally would have a guy who could start the offense in transition and the 1/2 court. PnR with Trae and Isaac/Ag/Biz with Fournier/TRoss on the wing that would be difficult to defend. Go under on the screen and Trae can hit, late rotating and Trae can find the rolling big, over rotate and Trae should be able to find Fournier in the corner for and open 3.

Nemesis21 · Post #164 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:32 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:I don't get the let's pair JJJ/Bamba with Isaac love fest. Do you not remember that, that didn't work with Ibaka and Biz?

Both rookies are already better than Biz, lol. Isaac is better than Orl Ibaka. He just can't stay healthy.

Don't care. The point is the twin towers experiment will not work.

nymets1 · Post #165 » by **nymets1** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:35 pm

Guys you know what would be really cool? But it won't happen is if:

Bagley only wants to interview/ workout with Orlando and no other teams

Maybe Trae Young does that but that's the only way Bagley could drop to 6.

Patrick1978 · Post #166 » by **Patrick1978** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:36 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
NotACat wrote:A front court of AG-Isaac-MPJ sounds amazing, especially if we expect Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C.

Who exactly is expecting Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C?

The guy is not a center.

Yes people should stop with isaac at center

Nyce_1 · Post #167 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:45 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:I don't get the let's pair JJJ/Bamba with Isaac love fest. Do you not remember that, that didn't work with Ibaka and Biz?

Both rookies are already better than Biz, lol. Isaac is better than Orl Ibaka. He just can't stay healthy.

Don't care. The point is the twin towers experiment will not work.

it didn't work because neither guy, Biz & Ibaka, didn't have the skill, athleticis, or IQ to do anything with the ball besides shoot or dunk it off an assist. And did you forget how immobile Ibaka was? Guy was getting beat off the dribble by Dwight Howard, lol.

If we pair Isaac with JJJ/Bamba, there's enough skill, athleticism, and IQ to make it work. I think.

Driguez · Post #168 » by **Driguez** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:46 pm

Patrick1978 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
NotACat wrote:A front court of AG-Isaac-MPJ sounds amazing, especially if we expect Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C.

Who exactly is expecting Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C?

The guy is not a center.

Yes people should stop with isaac at center

In today's NBA you don't necessarily need a Dwight down low. If he bulks up, in one or two years he can be upgraded to C. Not saying it's going to happen but not as out of reach as people think it would be. Only time will tell whether or not his body can handle being a 5. I wouldn't be surprised if he's put in that situation next season to see how he reacts and handle the 5. The only way I don't see him being tested at 5 is if we don't match AG, otherwise why waste a lotto pick as a back up for the reminder of AG's contract?

basketballRob · Post #169 » by **basketballRob** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:50 pm

Young has nearly the worst offensive rating of anyone projected to go in the lottery. He has a 6.6 differential between offensive and defensive ratings.

Mikal Bridges 34.3
JJJ 34.2
Carter 32.5
Ayton 31.5
Bagley 30.3
Bamba 28.9
Williams 23.6
Miles Bridges 22.7
SGA 15.0
Sexton 8
Knox 6.6
Young 6.6
Porter 5.8

zaymon · Post #170 » by **zaymon** » Thu May 17, 2018 6:51 pm

Driguez wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Who exactly is expecting Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C?

The guy is not a center.

Yes people should stop with isaac at center

In today's NBA you don't necessarily need a Dwight down low. If he bulks up, in one or two years he can be upgraded to C. Not saying it's going to happen but not as out of reach as people think it would be. Only time will tell whether or not his body can handle being a 5. I wouldn't be surprised if he's put in that situation next season to see how he reacts and handle the 5. The only way I don't see him being tested at 5 is if we don't match AG, otherwise why waste a lotto pick as a back up for the reminder of AG's contract?

Even if he plays at center its propably only training and play offs in near future. No need to put so much strain on his body during regular season.

Nyce_1 · Post #171 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:04 pm

Driguez wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Who exactly is expecting Isaac to put on enough weight to be a C?

The guy is not a center.

Yes people should stop with isaac at center

In today's NBA you don't necessarily need a Dwight down low. If he bulks up, in one or two years he can be upgraded to C. Not saying it's going to happen but not as out of reach as people think it would be. Only time will tell whether or not his body can handle being a 5. I wouldn't be surprised if he's put in that situation next season to see how he reacts and handle the 5. The only way I don't see him being tested at 5 is if we don't match AG, otherwise why waste a lotto pick as a back up for the reminder of AG's contract?

I totally understand playing him at the 5 for a few minutes but he will never be a full time center. 8 mins a game; sure.

Is Draymond a center? No. Is KD a center? no. Since they both occasionally (Draymond more often) play that spot during some rotations doesn't mean either player is a center.

Post #172 » by **Knightro** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:14 pm

I don't see any scenario where Isaac isn't playing SOME minutes at center long-term.

Now of course, they could trade away Gordon and Isaac could just become the full-time PF.

Mauro Pedrosa · Post #173 » by **Mauro Pedrosa** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:28 pm

nymets1 · Post #174 » by **nymets1** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:29 pm

Watching the NBA draft combine on espn2, Jonathan Givony has Trae Young at 6. Michael Porter to the Cavaliers. Most people on here seem to have Trae Young as their favorite, but I think our front office doesn't have Trae as their favorite as least not right now. I think right now our front office wants Porter, JJJ or Mikal.

basketballRob · Post #175 » by **basketballRob** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:39 pm

nymets1 wrote:Watching the NBA draft combine on espn2, Jonathan Givony has Trae Young at 6. Michael Porter to the Cavaliers. Most people on here seem to have Trae Young as their favorite, but I think our front office doesn't have Trae as their favorite as least not right now. I think right now our front office wants Porter, JJJ or Mikal.

I think JJJ goes in the top 3, but I could see Mikal rising up to 6th possibly. I'm not sure they'd want to risk it with Porter, even if he was 100% healthy it's no guarantee he'd be top 6.

OrlandoDream · Post #176 » by **OrlandoDream** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:46 pm

basketballRob wrote:Young has nearly the worst offensive rating of anyone projected to go in the lottery. He has a 6.6 differential between offensive and defensive ratings.

Mikal Bridges 34.3
JJJ 34.2
Carter 32.5
Ayton 31.5
Bagley 30.3
Bamba 28.9
Williams 23.6
Miles Bridges 22.7
SGA 15.0
Sexton 8
Knox 6.6
Young 6.6
Porter 5.8

Did you watch the Sooners last year? Trae Young was the ONLY offense for that team. He was double teamed on 45% of his possessions and still managed to avg 28 and 8 as a FRESHMAN.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

basketballRob · Post #177 » by **basketballRob** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:49 pm

OrlandoDream wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Young has nearly the worst offensive rating of anyone projected to go in the lottery. He has a 6.6 differential between offensive and defensive ratings.

Mikal Bridges 34.3
JJJ 34.2
Carter 32.5
Ayton 31.5
Bagley 30.3
Bamba 28.9
Williams 23.6
Miles Bridges 22.7
SGA 15.0
Sexton 8
Knox 6.6
Young 6.6
Porter 5.8

Did you watch the Sooners last year? Trae Young was the ONLY offense for that team. He was double teamed on 45% of his possessions and still managed to avg 28 and 8 as a FRESHMAN.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

I only watched the one Sooners game again West Virginia and Jevon Carter shut him down.

OrlandoDream · Post #178 » by **OrlandoDream** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:55 pm

basketballRob wrote:
OrlandoDream wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Young has nearly the worst offensive rating of anyone projected to go in the lottery. He has a 6.6 differential between offensive and defensive ratings.

Mikal Bridges 34.3
JJJ 34.2
Carter 32.5
Ayton 31.5
Bagley 30.3
Bamba 28.9
Williams 23.6
Miles Bridges 22.7
SGA 15.0
Sexton 8
Knox 6.6
Young 6.6
Porter 5.8

Did you watch the Sooners last year? Trae Young was the ONLY offense for that team. He was double teamed on 45% of his possessions and still managed to avg 28 and 8 as a FRESHMAN.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

I only watched the one Sooners game again West Virginia and Jevon Carter shut him down.

I watched that game too and he Carter did give him trouble. He had and will have bad shooting nights. Drawing all conclusion from few bad games is not a smart analysis. I go back to my previous point, despite the bad games, constant double team and crappy teammates, he still managed to lead the nation in SCORING and ASSIST...first player to ever do that...as a FRESHMAN. All while playing in the Big 12 one of the top 3 most competitive conferences.

Just think about that for a moment.

basketballRob · Post #179 » by **basketballRob** » Thu May 17, 2018 8:04 pm

OrlandoDream wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
OrlandoDream wrote:Did you watch the Sooners last year? Trae Young was the ONLY offense for that team. He was double teamed on 45% of his possessions and still managed to avg 28 and 8 as a FRESHMAN.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

I only watched the one Sooners game again West Virginia and Jevon Carter shut him down.

I watched that game too and he Carter did give him trouble. He had and will have bad shooting nights. Drawing all conclusion from few bad games is not a smart analysis. I go back to my previous point, despite the bad games, constant double team and crappy teammates, he still managed to lead the nation in SCORING and ASSIST...first player to ever do that...as a FRESHMAN. All while playing in the Big 12 one of the top 3 most competitive conferences.

Just think about that for a moment.

It wasn't a bad shooting night, Carter is a great defender and he couldn't get an open look within 40'.

I know everyone wants him, it's almost like Exum all over again. I do have my doubts that Weham select him.

Nyce_1 · Post #180 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu May 17, 2018 8:12 pm

basketballRob wrote:
OrlandoDream wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
I only watched the one Sooners game again West Virginia and Jevon Carter shut him down.

I watched that game too and he Carter did give him trouble. He had and will have bad shooting nights. Drawing all conclusion from few bad games is not a smart analysis. I go back to my previous point, despite the bad games, constant double team and crappy teammates, he still managed to lead the nation in SCORING and ASSIST...first player to ever do that...as a FRESHMAN. All while playing in the Big 12 one of the top 3 most competitive conferences.

Just think about that for a moment.

It wasn't a bad shooting night Carter is a great defender and he couldn't get an open look within 40'.

I know everyone wants him, it's almost like Exum all over again. I do have my doubts that Weham select him.

ohh good comparison to the Exum hype.

I was falling down that hole again. Time to refocus.

Who should be our pick?