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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#41 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu May 17, 2018 3:22 pm

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GimmeDat wrote:Spellman seems like a much more efficient shooter, as well as longer and more athletic than Sullinger, and that's without considering further improvements to his body, which I have much more faith in him to make than Sullinger. And of course Sullinger had the injury concerns dating back to college as well.

Maybe I'm not asking the right question, but do you have Spellman significantly higher rated in the draft than you had Sullinger?

I'd say I do. I remember likening Sullinger to a poor man's Al Jefferson with weight and back injury concerns, a bad combination. And this was also still a different NBA 6 years ago, the last year or so where plodding big men still had something of a place.

Spellman is just flatout mobile. Not even for a fat kid, he's just very mobile and quick, with good burst and explosion for an NBA big. If he trims up and slims down and stays there, again, I love his game for the NBA for the long haul and think he'll be an instant contributor.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#42 » by Scoonie » Thu May 17, 2018 5:30 pm

His measurements were all good except for his body fat. Still way too high at 13.75%, but if he get that down to 8% or 9% he will be really good in the NBA.

Measured in at 6'9.25" in sneakers with a 7'2" wingspan.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#43 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu May 17, 2018 9:22 pm

They just showed him doing the lateral lane agility drill. He looks a little sloppy and pudgy, but he actually looks slimmed down, yet still beefy. I'd maintain, if you as a GM/front office were convinced he would get serious and stay committed to getting/staying in much better shape, he has potential to be a huge steal in this draft. That's a big if though.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#44 » by bucknut » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:04 am

i think this is a future all star. What a draft by Atlanta. They are now golden state light except they can shoot at the center position so have even better spacing actually. Spellman is basically a much better draymond green

Do you guys fully understand how unique spellman is ? he is a center who hits threes but is a tough sob one of those guys who wants to send a message. Every other stretch 5 is a soft euro or soft ass like maureese speights

spellman is a hoss who is going to anchor your defense board like charles barkley and block shots and intimidate opponents. there is no soft in his game.

His shot blocking and rebounding alone are enough to keep him in the league. now you add in 40 percent knockdown 3 ? there is no one in the league that can do what he is doing. not one.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#45 » by Kalela » Sun Jul 1, 2018 3:44 am

jonjames wrote:I like him better than higher rated robert williams. Hes got taj gibson potential imo.


Can you expand on that.I don't know much about either player. What makes Spellman a potentially better NBA player than Williams?
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#46 » by jonjames » Sun Jul 1, 2018 4:13 am

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jonjames wrote:I like him better than higher rated robert williams. Hes got taj gibson potential imo.


Can you expand on that.I don't know much about either player. What makes Spellman a potentially better NBA player than Williams?


Fits the modern nba for big shot 43% from 3 as a big, very versatile smooth operator in the pick and roll. Smarter player and better feel for the game than williams.makes the right reads and makes pretty good decision snwith the ball. Very solid defender good lateral quickmesd and timing.for blocked shots. not as explosive as williams but surprisingly very athletic in his own right. If developed properly he can be a draymond type of player.

Williams is extremely raw with low feel for the game cant shoot at all and then on top of that has poor touch around the rim for a big can disappear for long stretches before seeing any sort of impact. But hes 6'9 w/ huge wingspan and explosive athleticsm which isnt found in many players..so theres always gonna be a strong appeal for nba gms/scouts.
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Post#47 » by atlantabbq99 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 5:52 am

He doesn't have impressive size or athleticism. He is a good college 3pt shooter, but that doesn't necessarily always translate to the NBA three.

His calling card is his hustle, IQ and shooting. His ceiling could be Draymond, but I think a realistic middle could be Grant Long with 3pt range.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#48 » by CP War Hawks » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:19 am

Kalela wrote:
jonjames wrote:I like him better than higher rated robert williams. Hes got taj gibson potential imo.


Can you expand on that.I don't know much about either player. What makes Spellman a potentially better NBA player than Williams?


He's way more skilled than Williams and still a decent solid shot blocker. I was saying elsewhere, he has a certain polish playing with that group in Villanova and for Jay Wright.

His measurables are eerily similar to Horford pre draft, and why I liken him to a bizarro Horford. He's more mobile than I had expected. All of this is watching a few clips from the Hawks scrimmages, so he could very well struggle in SL vs. longer and athletic bigs.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#49 » by kg01 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:10 pm

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Kalela wrote:
jonjames wrote:I like him better than higher rated robert williams. Hes got taj gibson potential imo.


Can you expand on that.I don't know much about either player. What makes Spellman a potentially better NBA player than Williams?


He's way more skilled than Williams and still a decent solid shot blocker. I was saying elsewhere, he has a certain polish playing with that group in Villanova and for Jay Wright.

His measurables are eerily similar to Horford pre draft, and why I liken him to a bizarro Horford. He's more mobile than I had expected. All of this is watching a few clips from the Hawks scrimmages, so he could very well struggle in SL vs. longer and athletic bigs.


And, don't forget, the #1 ability is availability. He's got that, in spades, over Williams. :)
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#50 » by Patsfan1081 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:35 am

CP War Hawks wrote:
Kalela wrote:
jonjames wrote:I like him better than higher rated robert williams. Hes got taj gibson potential imo.


Can you expand on that.I don't know much about either player. What makes Spellman a potentially better NBA player than Williams?


He's way more skilled than Williams and still a decent solid shot blocker. I was saying elsewhere, he has a certain polish playing with that group in Villanova and for Jay Wright.

His measurables are eerily similar to Horford pre draft, and why I liken him to a bizarro Horford. He's more mobile than I had expected. All of this is watching a few clips from the Hawks scrimmages, so he could very well struggle in SL vs. longer and athletic bigs.


Similar to Horford? He's got 20 plus pounds on Horford coming out, Horford also has broad shoulders, very different body type. His shot blocking is not going to transfer at the next level, he was good at timing shots against college level players, but he has a poor vertical and will have trouble against NBA level talent.
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#51 » by Patsfan1081 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:47 am

jonjames wrote:
Kalela wrote:
jonjames wrote:I like him better than higher rated robert williams. Hes got taj gibson potential imo.


Can you expand on that.I don't know much about either player. What makes Spellman a potentially better NBA player than Williams?


Fits the modern nba for big shot 43% from 3 as a big, very versatile smooth operator in the pick and roll. Smarter player and better feel for the game than williams.makes the right reads and makes pretty good decision snwith the ball. Very solid defender good lateral quickmesd and timing.for blocked shots. not as explosive as williams but surprisingly very athletic in his own right. If developed properly he can be a draymond type of player.

Williams is extremely raw with low feel for the game cant shoot at all and then on top of that has poor touch around the rim for a big can disappear for long stretches before seeing any sort of impact. But hes 6'9 w/ huge wingspan and explosive athleticsm which isnt found in many players..so theres always gonna be a strong appeal for nba gms/scouts.


He doesn't have good lateral quickness, that actually one of his issues, difficulty coming off switches also. I don't see him coming close to Green defensively. Williams has motor issues but so doesn't Spellman, I also would def not describe him as an explosive athlete, he can move well for his size and has good timing. I'm fairly confident if Williams puts in the effort at the very least a pretty good defender and a garbage man on offense. I just watched Spellman get block terribly by Brimah twice, he doesn't have a good inside game and most likely will have to rely on his outside shooting, which may or may not transfer. Williams is obviously more raw, but what does Spellman have, three years on him?
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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#52 » by bucknut » Wed Jul 4, 2018 8:25 am

he's explosive vertically and powerful and plays with force. Will wow you with some "man" plays inside blocks and dunks. but he is lacking laterally. he's a jason maxiel with a J. Can change games with his momentum plays and hustle. see how a malik rose affected the game at that size with energy these guys can be really impactful.

I don't see any iso game whatesoever or low post game. Just a spotup shooter or straight line driver. Limited offensive arsenal. No playmaking ability. His whole key will being able to play like a ben wallace tenacious enforcer who is a really good rebounder and shotblocker with a j. he needs to be better than draymond as a rebounder and shotblocker and be an animal inside. If he does that he will be a presence. major presence if he can do that and hit 3s. it all comes down to how much of a junkyard dog and beastmode he is inside. how much that translates.

his 3 does look pretty ugly so i wouldn't be surprised if that percentage comes down.

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Re: Omari Spellman 

Post#53 » by DrCoach » Wed Jul 4, 2018 3:38 pm

Looks good in SL, nice pick by ATL


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