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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#221 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:02 pm

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League Circles wrote:The question isn't will the Bulls do what is necessary if he's saying he'll come, the question is what could we do to maximize the chances that he'll come.

Perfect team? Wouldn't the perfect team for him have way better players than the roster you list?


The perfect team for LeBron requires smart players who will ONLY listen to him.

Talent doesn't factor into it? And what makes those players so smart and subservient relative to other rosters?

Embiid + Ben Simmons....they are not your subservient players.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#222 » by League Circles » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:15 pm

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The perfect team for LeBron requires smart players who will ONLY listen to him.

Talent doesn't factor into it? And what makes those players so smart and subservient relative to other rosters?

Embiid + Ben Simmons....they are not your subservient players.

Oh, you said we had " the perfect roster", not just one better than Philly.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#223 » by Ugly Duckling » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:23 pm

Dunn
LaVine
James*
Markkanen
Bamba

Aside from LAL, it looks like we're the only team that can afford to max him out
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#224 » by sco » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:27 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Dunn
LaVine
James*
Markkanen
Bamba

Aside from LAL, it looks like we're the only team that can afford to max him out

I'd love that, but I think James would think that the above roster won't help him win in next 2 seasons.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#225 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:28 pm

lol musiq's team is worse than the Cavs now.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#226 » by Rowland Garrett » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:28 pm

I can't say I'm "pro signing LeBron." But I'm sure if we could it would be great. I know many of you were too young during the Jordan years, but I can assure you there was not a more hated player by Bull fans than Denis Rodman. Yet we came to accept and love him. So yes, LeBron could find that on the Bulls as well.

Do I think LeBron would come here? Maybe a 1.7 % chance.

Thinking about it though. Draft Mikal Bridges and then the team looks like a great fit.

Dunn/Bridges
LeBron/Markkanen
Lopez

Porter/Holliday/Payne/Valentine plus any ring chasers.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#227 » by Ugly Duckling » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:28 pm

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Ugly Duckling wrote:Dunn
LaVine
James*
Markkanen
Bamba

Aside from LAL, it looks like we're the only team that can afford to max him out

I'd love that, but I think James would think that the above roster won't help him win in next 2 seasons.


Yeah you're right. And what am I thinking, we would only have the space without signing LaVine. Didn't sleep well last night
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#228 » by League Circles » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:29 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:lol musiq's team is worse than the Cavs now.

Yet perfectly set up for LBJ.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#229 » by weneeda2guard » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:54 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Dunn
LaVine
James*
Markkanen
Bamba

Aside from LAL, it looks like we're the only team that can afford to max him out

i dont think we can even think about bringing james along unless we get another star here. bamba is a great pick but not enough to lure james.

kawhi about to meet with the spurs. they may decide to move on from him. if we could land kawhi, then lebron to chicago can become real. i dont see either taking place though.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#230 » by boundbymusic » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:05 pm

I think this roster is set up to win with Lebron (especially with the pick this year)...but unfortunately not for another year or two. He needs guys ready to win now, not guys ready to win in 2 yrs. This roster + Lebron is better than Clevelands was this year. Nowhere near ready to take on GS though.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#231 » by The Box Office » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:10 pm

No LeBron. I wanted him back in 2010 to team up with Derrick Rose. It's now 2018. LeBron has tons of mileage and doesn't play defense anymore. I moved on. We moved on. We're going to be a bad team next season regardless of who we pick at the lottery. I mean, Top 3 lottery pick bad.

No more Niko Mirotic fluke wins. LaVine will be the tank commander and I'm fine with that. He's determined to get his stats and his shots to prove the haters wrong. Go ahead. Do it. The awesome part is we're not even purposely tanking either.

I see next season as another development year for Lauri, Kris Dunn, and lottery pick #7.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#232 » by League Circles » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:16 pm

The Box Office wrote:No LeBron. I wanted him back in 2010 to team up with Derrick Rose. It's now 2018. LeBron has tons of mileage and doesn't play defense anymore. I moved on. We moved on. We're going to be a bad team next season regardless of who we pick at the lottery. I mean, Top 3 lottery pick bad.

No more Niko Mirotic fluke wins. LaVine will be the tank commander and I'm fine with that. He's determined to get his stats and his shots to prove the haters wrong. Go ahead. Do it. The awesome part is we're not even purposely tanking either.

I see next season as another development year for Lauri, Kris Dunn, and lottery pick #7.

Lebron will almost certainly be better for at least 2 or 3 more years than any Bulls player is likely to be for the next couple hundred years or so.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#233 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:41 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:lol musiq's team is worse than the Cavs now.


If LeBron leaves the Cavs, there are only 2 teams that are faves from the East to come out:

Boston
Philly

Add, whichever team LeBron is in ( Cleveland, Philly, Boston or any other East team).

Now, if LeBron were to join the Bulls, then there are ONLY 2 teams that would be fighting it out for the East:

Boston
Chicago

Milwaukee, Philly, Toronto are all irrelevant when it comes to going against our roster + LeBron.

I am not saying he would choose us. I am saying if he did, we'd win the East in Season 1 of LeBron joining us.

LeBron brings with him a ton of riches. He will construct the team in a way that allows him to beat Boston and GSW. Winning the East is easy. Beating Warriors is not.

If LeBron joins us, then I can see us re-setting our entire roster into a 5 year window. So, trading #7 pick + Lauri for Kawahi is definitely on. And adding on good players on bad salaries is also on.

You cant apply the same roster. You have to think about a massive roster churn. Thats the effect that LeBron has on a team. Its the same effect that max cap space had on us in 2010.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#234 » by The Box Office » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:48 pm

League Circles wrote:
The Box Office wrote:No LeBron. I wanted him back in 2010 to team up with Derrick Rose. It's now 2018. LeBron has tons of mileage and doesn't play defense anymore. I moved on. We moved on. We're going to be a bad team next season regardless of who we pick at the lottery. I mean, Top 3 lottery pick bad.

No more Niko Mirotic fluke wins. LaVine will be the tank commander and I'm fine with that. He's determined to get his stats and his shots to prove the haters wrong. Go ahead. Do it. The awesome part is we're not even purposely tanking either.

I see next season as another development year for Lauri, Kris Dunn, and lottery pick #7.

Lebron will almost certainly be better for at least 2 or 3 more years than any Bulls player is likely to be for the next couple hundred years or so.


Yes. Cool. What's your point? LeBron is better than any of your guys for another 2 years. He's better than any of his current guys on the Cavs. He's better than anyone on Golden State. He's the best in the NBA.

Then why should he go to Chicago? I wouldn't if I was him. He's not coming here. This team is super inexperienced compared to his current Cavs and our defense is bad. With him here, we're not getting past Boston Celtics. I'm sure of that.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#235 » by League Circles » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:51 pm

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League Circles wrote:
The Box Office wrote:No LeBron. I wanted him back in 2010 to team up with Derrick Rose. It's now 2018. LeBron has tons of mileage and doesn't play defense anymore. I moved on. We moved on. We're going to be a bad team next season regardless of who we pick at the lottery. I mean, Top 3 lottery pick bad.

No more Niko Mirotic fluke wins. LaVine will be the tank commander and I'm fine with that. He's determined to get his stats and his shots to prove the haters wrong. Go ahead. Do it. The awesome part is we're not even purposely tanking either.

I see next season as another development year for Lauri, Kris Dunn, and lottery pick #7.

Lebron will almost certainly be better for at least 2 or 3 more years than any Bulls player is likely to be for the next couple hundred years or so.


Yes. Cool. What's your point? LeBron is better than any of your guys for another 2 years. He's better than any of his current guys on the Cavs. He's better than anyone on Golden State. He's the best in the NBA.

Then why should he go to Chicago? I wouldn't if I was him. He's not coming here. This team is super inexperienced compared to his current Cavs and our defense is bad. With him here, we're not getting past Boston Celtics. I'm sure of that.

Well why he may or may not come here is a separate issue. I was just addressing you not wanting him because of "mileage".
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#236 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:10 pm

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League Circles wrote:
The Box Office wrote:No LeBron. I wanted him back in 2010 to team up with Derrick Rose. It's now 2018. LeBron has tons of mileage and doesn't play defense anymore. I moved on. We moved on. We're going to be a bad team next season regardless of who we pick at the lottery. I mean, Top 3 lottery pick bad.

No more Niko Mirotic fluke wins. LaVine will be the tank commander and I'm fine with that. He's determined to get his stats and his shots to prove the haters wrong. Go ahead. Do it. The awesome part is we're not even purposely tanking either.

I see next season as another development year for Lauri, Kris Dunn, and lottery pick #7.

Lebron will almost certainly be better for at least 2 or 3 more years than any Bulls player is likely to be for the next couple hundred years or so.


Yes. Cool. What's your point? LeBron is better than any of your guys for another 2 years. He's better than any of his current guys on the Cavs. He's better than anyone on Golden State. He's the best in the NBA.

Then why should he go to Chicago? I wouldn't if I was him. He's not coming here. This team is super inexperienced compared to his current Cavs and our defense is bad. With him here, we're not getting past Boston Celtics. I'm sure of that.


Boston is just that good.

Even if LeBron went to Philly, its not assured that they would beat Boston.

So, you really got to think about which team presents the best choices for LeBron. I'd say Philly. But we're not lagging far behind.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#237 » by keloms » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:45 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Dunn
LaVine
James*
Markkanen
Bamba

Aside from LAL, it looks like we're the only team that can afford to max him out


That's no limit when it comes to LeBron. If he says he wants to go somewhere, that team will move heaven and earth to free up the money or trade for him.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#238 » by League Circles » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:22 pm

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Ugly Duckling wrote:Dunn
LaVine
James*
Markkanen
Bamba

Aside from LAL, it looks like we're the only team that can afford to max him out


That's no limit when it comes to LeBron. If he says he wants to go somewhere, that team will move heaven and earth to free up the money or trade for him.

First, it's not a given that any particular contracts can be dumped by a given team at a given time (which is why in my projection I had us stretch Omer and Lopez and use 1sts to dump Payne, Grant and Holiday as needed). Second, a huge part of LeBron deciding where he goes will be evaluating the roster AFTER he arrives, including what additional FAs may be added alongside him and or what assets need to be stripped to sign him and others.
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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#239 » by fleet » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:38 pm

League Circles wrote:
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League Circles wrote:Lebron will almost certainly be better for at least 2 or 3 more years than any Bulls player is likely to be for the next couple hundred years or so.


Yes. Cool. What's your point? LeBron is better than any of your guys for another 2 years. He's better than any of his current guys on the Cavs. He's better than anyone on Golden State. He's the best in the NBA.

Then why should he go to Chicago? I wouldn't if I was him. He's not coming here. This team is super inexperienced compared to his current Cavs and our defense is bad. With him here, we're not getting past Boston Celtics. I'm sure of that.

Well why he may or may not come here is a separate issue. I was just addressing you not wanting him because of "mileage".

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Re: Woj: "Bulls to be a factor in July" 

Post#240 » by keloms » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:02 pm

Why should the Bulls be active this year for the right players? Something like this is unlikely to happen again for a long time.

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