Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

[Polk377]

Hypothetical question...WOuld you trade #9 straight up for OG Anunoby?

[Tron Carter]

Jay10 preaching gospel. Just say no to any prospect with a jr at the end of their name.

[HEZI]

yall do know defense is team oriented you can put a small ball 4 next to kp and we would still get lit up from 3 it only takes one for the dominoes to fall. KP playing the 4 is not why we were not a good defense. Jack/hardaway are not defenders you defense is already screwed in the backcourt that puts extra pressure on your front court to pickup your defensive lapses

Kanter is not a defender either that puts additional pressure on your help defender in porzingis to not only concentrate on whats happening on the perimeter but now he has to try and cheat off his man in order to save face at the rim.

It's not even just the defense for me, I want them to play A LOT faster. I'm sick of this team being slow and always playing in the half court while teams just kill us in transition with quickness and versatility. I want some horses that can get up and down the floor with the best of them, I don't see how having two centers makes us more dynamic on offense. The only big that I really see being able to provide that type of versatility for us would be Marvin Bagley

That would mean KP would have to tremendously improve his rebounding you cant get out and run and play smaller ball if you your center cant rebound. and i continue to question his ability to rebound once he returns from this ACL because he was a trash rebounder for a guy his size to begin with.

Yeah that's been a concern with him, so it would have be a gang rebounding team effort, kinda like what the Celtics do because Horford isn't a good rebounder either. That's why I want Miles because I know he's capable of crashing the boards and initiating fast breaks. The guards like Frank would also have to develop habits of tracking down rebounds. It felt like they relied on Kanter for that too much last year and when he wasn't playing you could see them give up boards constantly. So gang rebounding would have to become an identity with the team from day 1 of training camp.

[Polk377]

Porter doesn't have handles stop lying bro. He's 6-11 with a jumper. Nothing else.

He is sloppy as hell with the ball. There should be no comparisons to KD. He is like more athletic worse rebounding Donyell Marshall.

[Tron Carter]

new dime drop on porter...

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bruh people will be watch this and still want to draft him. crazy

[NBA Fan 1234]

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[Fat]

Porter doesn't have handles stop lying bro. He's 6-11 with a jumper. Nothing else.

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if he aint got handle i dont want to hear nothing about knox, miles, or mikal having handle because that looks alot more fluid than any of those guys with the ball

[3toheadmelo]

if we pick porter i will just hope for the best

[DOT]

if we pick porter i will just hope for the best

He's gonna break his back walking up onto the stage

[MaseInYourFace]

new dime drop on porter...

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bruh people will be watch this and still want to draft him. crazy

I wouldn't take him early lottery because of that scary back injury but later on hell yes. The talent and upside makes it a good gamble.

[Dr. Detfink]

I don't care whether or not the Knicks get Michael Porter Jr BUT the Knicks can ill afford not to move up in the draft. This reminds me A LOT of the year, the Knicks could not move up to get Steph Curry. They had EVERY reason to bet it all to get Curry and they stood pat and got Jordan Hill.

THAT'S the Knicks. Complacent.

New York is trying to rebuild NOW. This is not something that you luck into. The Knicks have 2 very good to greatness in Frank Nicotine and KP...you BETTER go all out and get the 3rd piece because despite what every one talks "patience" there is every reason to believe the Knicks WANT to make the playoffs.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I don't care whether or not the Knicks get Michael Porter Jr BUT the Knicks can ill afford not to move up in the draft. This reminds me A LOT of the year, the Knicks could not move up to get Steph Curry. They had EVERY reason to bet it all to get Curry and they stood pat and got Jordan Hill.

THAT'S the Knicks. Complacent.

New York is trying to rebuild NOW. This is not something that you luck into. The Knicks have 2 very good to greatness in Frank Nicotine and KP...you BETTER go all out and get the 3rd piece because despite what every one talks "patience" there is every reason to believe the Knicks WANT to make the playoffs.

I don't think there's a need to trade up, unless the price is fair. Trading a 2019 unprotected pick, or one that is not heavily protected, is a non-starter.

[Nazrmohamed]

Porter doesn't have handles stop lying bro. He's 6-11 with a jumper. Nothing else.

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if he aint got handle i dont want to hear nothing about knox, miles, or mikal having handle because that looks alot more fluid than any of those guys with the ball

That's true. None of those guys have an advanced handle BUT two of them are way better shooters and the other has a larger array of moves on the block.

But just ignore the noise. Porter is the best player overall out of all of them. Dude got hurt and looks human now, critics are hovering. We can go back and forth all day. There was a reason he was the consensus number 1 pick before getting hurt. Hes just gotta get with the right trainer, a coach committed to his development and he'll be fine.

At the end of the day he's probably more a 4/3 than the others so he better work on his reminding more than his handle if I were him.

[whocares1]

Porter doesn't have handles stop lying bro. He's 6-11 with a jumper. Nothing else.

Watch on YouTube

if he aint got handle i dont want to hear nothing about knox, miles, or mikal having handle because that looks alot more fluid than any of those guys with the ball

He barely dribbled in that video...Just basic stuff.

[Dr. Detfink]

I don't think there's a need to trade up, unless the price is fair. Trading a 2019 unprotected pick, or one that is not heavily protected, is a non-starter.

This draft is every thing for the new Front Office. If they bring a "pretty good" guy that doesn't turn the Knicks into playoff contender but even worse, they are just good enough to miss the playoffs.

There is no tomorrow.

[newyorker4ever]

Would you say that JR Smith can't shoot or that he has poor shot selection?

I would say JR can shoot 1 out of every 5 games. When he's on he's on, unfortunately he's very inconsistent. Have you ever seen Lonnie get on a JR like shooting game? You must have since that's who you're using as kind of a comparison. He's a better 3 point shooter then 2 point shooter when he is on.

JR is a 40% 3pt shooter when on spot ups and when he's reasonably open. If he dribbles 3+ times, he's a 30% shooter. The results are consistent. What is inconsistent is his decision making.

Same with Lonnie. When he tries to create his own shot, the results are disastrous. When he shoots in rhythm as part of the offense with spot ups and such, he's almost lights out.

That's decision making.

I'm not saying either one don't take bad shots especially JR, but JR is a very inconsistent shooter with good and bad shots but when JR is on he's a great shooter for that game and then he's bad for 4-5 games.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I don't care whether or not the Knicks get Michael Porter Jr BUT the Knicks can ill afford not to move up in the draft. This reminds me A LOT of the year, the Knicks could not move up to get Steph Curry. They had EVERY reason to bet it all to get Curry and they stood pat and got Jordan Hill.

THAT'S the Knicks. Complacent.

New York is trying to rebuild NOW. This is not something that you luck into. The Knicks have 2 very good to greatness in Frank Nicotine and KP...you BETTER go all out and get the 3rd piece because despite what every one talks "patience" there is every reason to believe the Knicks WANT to make the playoffs.

I feel the same way. Not sure who the guy is but we have to be aggressive-but smart-and shoot our shot.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I don't think there's a need to trade up, unless the price is fair. Trading a 2019 unprotected pick, or one that is not heavily protected, is a non-starter.

This draft is every thing for the new Front Office. If they bring a "pretty good" guy that doesn't turn the Knicks into playoff contender but even worse, they are just good enough to miss the playoffs.

There is no tomorrow.

If they bring in a pretty good guy that is a rotation / starting piece going forward, they're making the right step in a year in which KP is going to miss a huge chunk of the season. There is absolutely no reason to rush and make a rash decision like trading away assets to move up in the draft, when the Knicks will be terrible next year and have a high pick. Adding someone like Mikal, who I think the Knicks ultimately end up with, is the perfect piece for this roster. Add him this year, add a SG next year, and you have the backcourt set going forward. Or add Mikal this year, add a PF next year, and try to get a SG in FA (I consider THJr a 6th man on a good team, if that).

No reason to be short-sided here. Add rotation piece this year, let KP come back healthy on his own time without rushing (let him get some PT next year, but focusing on health), and go for playoffs in 2019-20. More cap space, a healthy KP, better Frank, 2nd year rookie from this year, rookie from next year, etc. Knicks aren't making the playoffs this year, and shouldn't try to. Don't trade picks.

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[Nazrmohamed]

I don't think there's a need to trade up, unless the price is fair. Trading a 2019 unprotected pick, or one that is not heavily protected, is a non-starter.

This draft is every thing for the new Front Office. If they bring a "pretty good" guy that doesn't turn the Knicks into playoff contender but even worse, they are just good enough to miss the playoffs.

There is no tomorrow.

The next 3 drafts is everything for the Knicks. Actually the last 2 included. I don't think this is a make or break year. If anything it's the 2019 draft that'll produce the highest potential player, or SHOULD considering we will be lousy. But get thirsty this year and we'll be lousy and then have to watch on the sidelines.

I want literally 4 bodies in 4 years drafted in the lottery. KP and Frank make 2. This year's pick makes 3 and next year's pick makes 4. I find more value in that than trading 2 for 1 and ending up with 3.

If anything I'm looking to add more 1st rounders. Maybe draft Mikal at 9 and see if the 76rs like him enough to give us 10 and 26. Probably add in Mudiay and some second rounders to sweeten it