Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

Juco24 · Post #1721 » by **Juco24** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:44 am

Jay10 wrote:Would you trade #9 for De'Aaron Fox?

Listening to Bill Simmons' podcast and he brought up the idea.

I definitely would NOT

DrCoach · Post #1722 » by **DrCoach** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:47 am

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Being young doesn’t necessarily indicate potential. Folks were gaga over Mudiay because he was young. His workouts are very meh

Knox avg 15pg at 18yrs old for a top program, THAT indicates potential

Brandon Knight averaged 17, 4, 4 for Kentucky.

Yep, which is why he was a lotto pick, a starting NBA guard, and signed a 5yr 70 mil contract

F N 11 · Post #1723 » by **F N 11** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:50 am

Not gunna lie. The facts Knox would be 22 in 3 years is kind of tempting. Then again if Kp was 25 now would we really be upset ?

blanko · Post #1724 » by **blanko** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:22 am

Mikal is like a smaller more athletic shane battier. You know what you are going to get. However you guys talk about how he improved under excellent college coaching in 3 years. Knox improved also, specifically his release on his jumper. So dont compare 22 year old mikal to knox. Compare knox to a 19 year old mikal.

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blanko · Post #1725 » by **blanko** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:28 am

Bottom line is this. We arent gonna be good this year and will be in the lottery again. You dont want a shane battier imho. You can find 3 and D guys who are 6'6. What is much harder to find is combo forwards with the potential of knox. You draft on potential. Who is going to be better 2-3 years later? If we were a playoff team I understand taking the safe pick. But we are not. I'm ok with mikal, I want to make sure I make that clear. However I perfer a higher upside prospect. Emila okafor and shane battier are nice players, but in the lottery you go for thr guy with the highest upside. At least in my opinion.

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Fat · Post #1726 » by **Fat** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:31 am

K P 6 wrote:Not gunna lie. The facts Knox would be 22 in 3 years is kind of tempting. Then again if Kp was 25 now would we really be upset ?

its hard to predict who will be better between knox, miles and mikal i think there each more than capable of being better than the other. Mikal right now looks like the most valuable safest pick

earthmansurfer · Post #1727 » by **earthmansurfer** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:45 am

Jay10 wrote:Bill Simmons also brought up something a few people around here haven't paid close attention to:

Mikal will be turn 22 in 2 months.
Knox will turn 22 in 3 years.

Don't you think Knox will be better at 22 than Mikal?

Both Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor say Knox will be better at 22 than Mikal at 22 years old.

Knox‘s questions are not talent related . They are more drive relate (taking plays off and such).

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1728 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:54 am

K P 6 wrote:Not gunna lie. The facts Knox would be 22 in 3 years is kind of tempting. Then again if Kp was 25 now would we really be upset ?

You would be less excited just because it would be unlikely KP would ever fill out his frame to a sufficient degree to play center full time. Three years is a loong time.

bleedblue3303 · Post #1729 » by **bleedblue3303** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:32 am

I think we are a lock for Knox. And I think I am ok with it

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Juco24 · Post #1730 » by **Juco24** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:34 am

blanko wrote:Bottom line is this. We arent gonna be good this year and will be in the lottery again. You dont want a shane battier imho. You can find 3 and D guys who are 6'6. What is much harder to find is combo forwards with the potential of knox. You draft on potential. Who is going to be better 2-3 years later? If we were a playoff team I understand taking the safe pick. But we are not. I'm ok with mikal, I want to make sure I make that clear. However I perfer a higher upside prospect. Emila okafor and shane battier are nice players, but in the lottery you go for thr guy with the highest upside. At least in my opinion.

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Great post as evidenced by the And1s. To piggy back, I'm not so sure Franks best position wont be that of point forward/sf. (I am overly impressed with his growth this summer) And have a scoring PG (KI?). In that scenario, Knox is the better pick. IJS....And it allows KP to move to C as I think Knox will ultimately grow into a modern day PF

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1731 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:01 am

DrCoach wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
DrCoach wrote:

Knox avg 15pg at 18yrs old for a top program, THAT indicates potential

Brandon Knight averaged 17, 4, 4 for Kentucky.

Yep, which is why he was a lotto pick, a starting NBA guard, and signed a 5yr 70 mil contract

Did well for himself, but he did not pan out.

blanko · Post #1732 » by **blanko** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:26 am

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
Brandon Knight averaged 17, 4, 4 for Kentucky.

Yep, which is why he was a lotto pick, a starting NBA guard, and signed a 5yr 70 mil contract

Did well for himself, but he did not pan out.

He tore his knee. Something that no one can predict.

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blanko · Post #1733 » by **blanko** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:29 am

earthmansurfer wrote:
Jay10 wrote:Bill Simmons also brought up something a few people around here haven't paid close attention to:

Mikal will be turn 22 in 2 months.
Knox will turn 22 in 3 years.

Don't you think Knox will be better at 22 than Mikal?

Both Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor say Knox will be better at 22 than Mikal at 22 years old.

Knox‘s questions are not talent related . They are more drive relate (taking plays off and such).

Most young players have attention issues. One thing I think about fizdale he is going to givr the kind of discipline that our young players need. (Especially mudiay, if fiz can't fix him he is a lost cause)

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NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1734 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:29 am

blanko wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
DrCoach wrote:

Yep, which is why he was a lotto pick, a starting NBA guard, and signed a 5yr 70 mil contract

Did well for himself, but he did not pan out.
He tore his knee. Something that no one can predict.

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Even before then he did not help his team win.

aq_ua · Post #1735 » by **aq_ua** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:25 am

Wonder if we could swing something like Courtney Lee + 36th for Mo Harkless and 24th for a chance at Kevin Huerter.

blanko · Post #1736 » by **blanko** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:50 am

I say stay pat and draft at nine or throw the kitchen sink to get doncic. Throw in another first along with our 9th and secound rounders.

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Reign23 · Post #1737 » by **Reign23** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:23 am

Fat Kat wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:

Edit, this is tough... Damn

C: Reed -$4
PF: Mason- $2
SF: Chandler -$1
G: Starks -$3
G: Clyde -$5

$4 row beats $5 row in a five game series

no they don't. not even close!

Dave DaButcher · Post #1738 » by **Dave DaButcher** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:25 am

blanko wrote:Bottom line is this. We arent gonna be good this year and will be in the lottery again. You dont want a shane battier imho. You can find 3 and D guys who are 6'6. What is much harder to find is combo forwards with the potential of knox. You draft on potential. Who is going to be better 2-3 years later? If we were a playoff team I understand taking the safe pick. But we are not. I'm ok with mikal, I want to make sure I make that clear. However I perfer a higher upside prospect. Emila okafor and shane battier are nice players, but in the lottery you go for thr guy with the highest upside. At least in my opinion.

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My view is similar. We should approach this draft in a manner that’s consistent with the long term rebuild and a plan through 2019/20.

Next year’s draft looks wing heavy. So presumably there will be better options to address our needs at small forward in the 2019 draft with a top 5 or so pick than what will be available to us at 9 this year.

The backcourt of the future looks likely to consist of Frank plus a 2019 free agent (Kyrie or Klay), with a THJ that hopefully approaches his Hawks iteration as 6th man.

KP at the 4/5, obviously.

That suggests to me that we should be aiming for Wendell Carter Jr. if he’s available to form a nice big tandem with KP.

2019-2020 NYK:

KP
WC
2019 wing
Frank
Kyrie or Klay

Personally, I like the potential of that squad.

Reign23 · Post #1739 » by **Reign23** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:39 am

newyorker4ever wrote:

Tyson Chandler
Melo
Wilson Chandler
Spree
Felton

basically the 2012/2013 with prime melo as a scoring champ and mvp candidat, tyson as a D player of the year and prime felton who is solid.

And then big upgrade with prime-allstar-spree and wilson chandler instead of j.r. and shump.

would love this squad!

earthmansurfer · Post #1740 » by **earthmansurfer** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:43 am

blanko wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Jay10 wrote:Bill Simmons also brought up something a few people around here haven't paid close attention to:

Mikal will be turn 22 in 2 months.
Knox will turn 22 in 3 years.

Don't you think Knox will be better at 22 than Mikal?

Both Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor say Knox will be better at 22 than Mikal at 22 years old.

Knox‘s questions are not talent related . They are more drive relate (taking plays off and such).
Most young players have attention issues. One thing I think about fizdale he is going to givr the kind of discipline that our young players need. (Especially mudiay, if fiz can't fix him he is a lost cause)

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We are not talking about most young people here (and I'm not trying to be smart with you). The guy has star potential and his lack of drive and off ball effect is noticeable. We are talking that he can blow it, but at least he doesn't appear to be at the Eddy Curry level.

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