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Suns fan coming in peace. Rumors are they like Avery Bradley and are gonna chase him in FA. McD has a connection from the boston days so might be legit. Someone who's watched Bradley more than me explain why I shouldn't hate this because I just don't get why he's considered good. I see pg size without pg skills, mediocre 3pt shooter and bad 2 pt shooter, rep of a good defender but advanced stats seem to disagree. What am i missing here?

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I was keeping tabs on him last season and he was playing injured for a good chunk of the season.

Bradley is a 2 through and through, which is weird for a team that has Booker already. If healthy, Bradley is great against shooters. He‘s a solid shooter from deep while his bread and butter are catch and shoot curls into the elbows. Unfortunately, dribbling is a problem so his driving skills are poor and he‘s not a nuanced finisher at the rim. If he would be an overqualified backup and being an offensive sparkplug makes no sense given his abilities. I don‘t see the fit unless Booker somehow leaps into Harden like trajectory in terms of passing.

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[Curmudgeon]

The Suns baffle me. They have a ton of young guys, and although McDonough brought in vets like Chandler and Dudley to show them the ropes, it hasn't worked. They're gunners (Booker, Jackson, Chriss) who are out to get theirs. They jack up shots and play no defense. And whatever happened to Alex Len? If a 7-2 guy can be invisible, that's him. They've also completely misused Bender. He doesn't belong on the perimeter, he belongs on the block, passing out of the post like Bogut. And why haven't they been able to get him into the weight room? Total waste of talent.

There are so many things wrong with the way the Suns play basketball that Avery Bradley doesn't matter one way or the other. Maybe he can show some of the young guys how to defend, but they have to want to do it, otherwise its useless. Yes, Bradley is undersized, but he makes up for some of it with a 42 inch vertical, and as others have noted, he understands how to play off the ball. That's another skill that the Suns' young guns haven't learned.

[colaroaster]

call it maniacal i wouldn't mind lebron staying in cleveland - we would mop-up his ass and bury him

[WeekapaugGroove]

Thanks for the insight on Bradley. I don't get the fit but throwing guys together that don't really fit has been mcd mo as a gm so far. I liked the hire because i thought stealing a young guy from your front office was a good idea but the results haven't been good so far. He hire earl Watson who was one of the worst coaches I've ever seen in my 30+ years as a bball fan. His trades and free agency has ranged from ineffective to downright disaster.

The draft has been a mixed bag. Hes missed on all his late pickd finding no diamonds in the rough. Len will be gone this summer, hes big and can rebound but has poor hands and zero natural feel for offense. Warren is ok and good be quite good if he ever develops a 3pt shot. Booker was a good pick, he has things to work on buts a great offensive talent for his age. Chriss is still very young but maturity and bbiq issues are a big red flag. Bender is also very young and can't be counted out but his first year was ruined by injury, last year he got to play but is simply too thin/weak to bang down low and he has a habbit of being too passive, its a make or break year for him coming up. Jackson was awful the first 20 or so games but came on strong the second half, he has some fire to him and a desire to be coached and get better so he could have a bright future.

Its been some dark times since the nash era but Igor looks like a good coaching candidate and if ayton hits they could be on the upswing.

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call it maniacal i wouldn't mind lebron staying in cleveland - we would mop-up his ass and bury him

I WANT him to stay in Cleveland for this very reason.

[Green89]

I think it's aafe to say that after Lebron and Kawhi leave their respective teams, it will be a very low probablility that either franchise will ever see a title again.

[tlee324]

Awful story on Zach Randolph, my God...

[djFan71]

Horrible contract, persona non grata, who says no, pick swap trade idea:

Chandler Parsons, #4 for JR Smith, Jordan Clarkson, #8.

CLE expunges JR Smith from their memory, moves up in the draft, saves a couple million over the next 2 years, and hopes Parsons eventually gets healthy.

Grizz get better players and 2 smaller contracts to work with (for slightly more total $) and wipe the worst contract in the league off the books while still keeping a high draft pick.

[GoCeltics123]

Horrible contract, persona non grata, who says no, pick swap trade idea:

Chandler Parsons, #4 for JR Smith, Jordan Clarkson, #8.

CLE expunges JR Smith from their memory, moves up in the draft, saves a couple million over the next 2 years, and hopes Parsons eventually gets healthy.

Grizz get better players and 2 smaller contracts to work with (for slightly more total $) and wipe the worst contract in the league off the books while still keeping a high draft pick.

And pretty much replaces LeBron

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Yeesh, Lowry's salary makes Chandler Parson blush. Though he does at least mildly earn it in the regular season.
Can't imagine anyone wanting him, much less for a top 10 pick.

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Yeesh, Lowry's salary makes Chandler Parson blush. Though he does at least mildly earn it in the regular season.
Can't imagine anyone wanting him, much less for a top 10 pick.

I can see Philly considering it. Also, while Lowry is grossly overpaid, he is on a short deal (UFA by 2020).

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Yeesh, Lowry's salary makes Chandler Parson blush. Though he does at least mildly earn it in the regular season.
Can't imagine anyone wanting him, much less for a top 10 pick.

I can see Philly considering it. Also, while Lowry is grossly overpaid, he is on a short deal (UFA by 2020).

I think they'd want to strike out in FA and lots of other deals first. Can't see it happening on draft day.

[Valid]

Yeesh, Lowry's salary makes Chandler Parson blush. Though he does at least mildly earn it in the regular season.
Can't imagine anyone wanting him, much less for a top 10 pick.

I can see Philly considering it. Also, while Lowry is grossly overpaid, he is on a short deal (UFA by 2020).

I think they'd want to strike out in FA and lots of other deals first. Can't see it happening on draft day.

Good point, but if Kawhi gets traded to somewhere other than Philly before draft day or the 76ers feel like they won't be able to land him, I can see Philly making the move. Put it this way: LeBron isn't even going to consider Philly unless they land Kawhi, so the writing might be on the wall for them at that point.

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Absolutely insane amount of players to get and moves to be made out there this year. I think Embiid, Curry and Davis are the only 3 safe players in the NBA right now..lol

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Absolutely insane amount of players to get and moves to be made out there this year. I think Embiid, Curry and Davis are the only 3 safe players in the NBA right now..lol

...and not much money to spend cap-wise. The third tier guys and role players would have to settle for less. Smart might just be back for cheap. Remember also that some of these teams that have cap space don't necessarily want to use that this offseason anticipating next offseason's crop of FAs or just not in a position to contend so are prudent with their spending.

[djFan71]

I can see Philly considering it. Also, while Lowry is grossly overpaid, he is on a short deal (UFA by 2020).

I think they'd want to strike out in FA and lots of other deals first. Can't see it happening on draft day.

Good point, but if Kawhi gets traded to somewhere other than Philly before draft day or the 76ers feel like they won't be able to land him, I can see Philly making the move. Put it this way: LeBron isn't even going to consider Philly unless they land Kawhi, so the writing might be on the wall for them at that point.

Agree they're probably not getting Kawhi, LeBron or PG. I guess Lowry's an All-Star, but I've never been a huge fan, and supposedly Simmons is their PG. Does Lowry play off-ball? Is he useful that way? I'd rather sign AB if I was them. A lot cheaper and keep my pick. Let him defend (but not play) PG like god intended and have Simmons run it. Get a Bridges or a sliding somebody in the draft. Heck, sign both IT & AB... Side note, but PHI or MIL would be great landing spots for IT with their length everywhere else.

[Curmudgeon]

Its been some dark times since the nash era but Igor looks like a good coaching candidate and if ayton hits they could be on the upswing.

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LOL the last person the Suns ought to draft is Ayton. He's just another offense-oriented player who will make things worse, not better. There is only one ball. The Suns should draft Doncic, who will make everyone else better. But the Suns will screw it up, just like the Kings always screw it up.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Its been some dark times since the nash era but Igor looks like a good coaching candidate and if ayton hits they could be on the upswing.

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LOL the last person the Suns ought to draft is Ayton. He's just another offense-oriented player who will make things worse, not better. There is only one ball. The Suns should draft Doncic, who will make everyone else better. But the Suns will screw it up, just like the Kings always screw it up.

I've been team doncic for months and he would be my choice. I do think ayton has some serious upside though.

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