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Draft Thread #16 - UPDATE pg 75ish - Knicks inquiring about trade ups

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Mikal
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26%
Carter
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MPJr
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Sexton
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Trae
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SGA
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Miles
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Walker
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Post#241 » by Jstarks3 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:12 pm

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I hope KP is out for the season


I hope KP is out for most of the season and comes back for the last two weeks to showcase that he is fully healed and still KP. Kinda like what PG did.


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Post#242 » by Triple C » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:12 pm

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Post#243 » by levendis » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:13 pm

If this is some long con to get some teams ahead of them to take Knox I applaud the front office. Knox is the exact opposite of the type of player they've been talking about. They lose alot of credibility in what they say if they take him imo, not that I would hate the pick, he's just not the type of player they've said they like.
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Post#244 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:23 pm

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The thing is, people are clamoring for Knox because they think he can be an alpha. I'm of the opinion, if you play like an alpha and you can only play as an alpha, then you better be damn good at it (efficient, able to get to your spots, etc). However, if you're not a true alpha, then you better round out your game and be able to play with one (play d, hit threes, rebound, etc). Hell, even alphas should be able to do that, but they get away with it.


wtf? literally nobody has said or thinks that.


Yeah I don't really see anyone saying that either.


You don't need to say that directly...all you have to do is describe why you think he'll be good or why you think he has potential. He's definitely not getting drafted because of his defensive game or his well-roundedness. His selling point is what he can become on offense.
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Post#245 » by ITGM » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:27 pm

2010 wrote:We've reached that point where word leaks of who's likely the Knicks pick, so now those who hated the prospect will now research reasons to make themselves fall in love with the pick.

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Post#246 » by DaGawd » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:36 pm

levendis wrote:If this is some long con to get some teams ahead of them to take Knox I applaud the front office. Knox is the exact opposite of the type of player they've been talking about. They lose alot of credibility in what they say if they take him imo, not that I would hate the pick, he's just not the type of player they've said they like.

Omg yall dramatic af..lmao
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Post#247 » by levendis » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:42 pm

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levendis wrote:If this is some long con to get some teams ahead of them to take Knox I applaud the front office. Knox is the exact opposite of the type of player they've been talking about. They lose alot of credibility in what they say if they take him imo, not that I would hate the pick, he's just not the type of player they've said they like.

Omg yall dramatic af..lmao


lol why? How you preaching about wanting tough defensive minded guys and draft Knox? If they do it's fine, but yeah they're preaching one thing and doing another.
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Post#248 » by ITGM » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:42 pm

To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/
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Post#249 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:52 pm

Miles has a much more translatable game than Knox does end of story. The only reason to pick Knox over Miles is his measurables.

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Post#250 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:52 pm

ITGM wrote:To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/


that was Miles Bridges he kicked around...not Mikal
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Post#251 » by Fury » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:53 pm

ITGM wrote:To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/


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Post#252 » by ITGM » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm

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ITGM wrote:To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/


that was Miles Bridges he kicked around...not Mikal


If you've seen one Bridges you've seem them all.


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Post#253 » by Infinitimind » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:57 pm

Would you guys do the following
Memphis gets
The 6th pick
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Post#254 » by WargamesX » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:59 pm

WajaBawl wrote:
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The thing is, people are clamoring for Knox because they think he can be an alpha. I'm of the opinion, if you play like an alpha and you can only play as an alpha, then you better be damn good at it (efficient, able to get to your spots, etc). However, if you're not a true alpha, then you better round out your game and be able to play with one (play d, hit threes, rebound, etc). Hell, even alphas should be able to do that, but they get away with it.


wtf? literally nobody has said or thinks that.


Yeah I don't really see anyone saying that either.


I just think he has the most potential of the guys likely to be available at 9.

Like I wanted Mikal because he is clearly skilled but I understand going with a risk/reward player Knox when we are so far behind roster talent wise from teams like the Bucks, Celtics, and 76ers. If Knox reaches his potential as a legit offensive threat and they can draft another high-end player next year, maybe they can shrink that gulf in talent a lot sooner and become competitive.
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Post#255 » by Fat Kat » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:00 pm

ITGM wrote:To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/

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Post#256 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:01 pm

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wtf? literally nobody has said or thinks that.


Yeah I don't really see anyone saying that either.


I just think he has the most potential of the guys likely to be available at 9.

Like I wanted Mikal because he is clearly skilled but I understand going with a risk/reward player Knox when we are so far behind roster talent wise from teams like the Bucks, Celtics, and 76ers. If Knox reaches his potential as a legit offensive threat and they can draft another high-end player next year, maybe they can shrink that gulf in talent a lot sooner and become competitive.


Why do you think his potential is higher? I really don’t see it...? Maybe a small chance. I also think his bust potential is way higher.
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Post#257 » by GONYK » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:01 pm

ITGM wrote:To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/


That's Miles Bridges, not Mikal.

You highlighted the name and the university multiple times :lol:
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Post#258 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:02 pm

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ITGM wrote:To all the Mikal Bridges fans:

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Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.


https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/

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That guy will have a new Knox video with examples today, I think? Rumor is, he has too much video in general and is busy outside of draft stuff.

Edit - he might be able to post examples though, worst case scenario.
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Post#259 » by Bklyn&company » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:04 pm

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Bklyn&company wrote:Knox ain't no Alpha he ain't leading your team no where year one or year three. Book it.

Some fyi...

1)Troy Brown Jr. Is the same age as Knox.. and was a leader of Oregon. Played 4 position for them and was mainly the guy bring the ball up and setting up the offense for others...and also play very good defense. No one is reaching for TB at #9..

2)Miles is only one yr older, and better than him in every category and skill.

3)Troy Williams is only 23 yrs old... I highly doubt Knox can put up TWill type numbers he had with us. So between having THJ, TWill and maybe another vet SF... Knox might not get much playing time.

So basically you all want him because he is 6'9 212lbs with a 7'0 wing and 19 (August 11)....... and ball out on one or two workouts....

LOL....SMH


Your expecting an alpha @9? youll be highly disappointed every player you look at then unless we get porter and he pans as that #1 player he was projected to be because every single guy excluding Troy williams im going to pretend he's not a name that was just mentioned. :) but every player you just listed is role player material 3rd options maybe 2nd if there lucky. if they become a secondary option on offense thats a straight up steal pick.

Porter - MAYBE allstar, high risk,, high reward
Young- MAYBE allstar, high risk high reward
sexton - Maybe boarder line allstar

if any of Miles, Mikal, Wendell, knox, troy brown, lonnie, carter is your teams alpha

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There all more than likely 3rd options on a good team and possible 2nd options if they hit there ceiling and even if they hit there ceiling probably still a 3rd option at best :lol:

The alpha section is in the top 3 Ayton, Bagley, Doncic assuming they live up to the hype.

You just proved my point... Porter, Young, Sexton... all have an alpha mentality and have a chance to be there at #9... so yes to your own question... we have a chance to get an alpha. And why the hell would we pick a one dimensional no defense spot up shooter...

Also Miles, Troy Brown, Walker etc... though they are more on a 2nd tier but have the ability to get up there easy with the right team and minutes.

I also mention TWill and THJ because of playing minutes... if he is trash against others on the team in practice especially if we resign a Beasley... Fiz ain't playing him. He will ride pine until maybe late March when all hope is gone for the season. The NBA is still a grown men league, you still need to step up. Pre draft workouts don't mean zhit to grown men fighting for a spot and time.

Knox is young yes... anything is possible... but he is a big huge if. If Knicks pick him and don't dramatically improve... he can set this Franchise years back... because KP could easy go bye bye NY.
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Post#260 » by WargamesX » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:09 pm

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Yeah I don't really see anyone saying that either.


I just think he has the most potential of the guys likely to be available at 9.

Like I wanted Mikal because he is clearly skilled but I understand going with a risk/reward player Knox when we are so far behind roster talent wise from teams like the Bucks, Celtics, and 76ers. If Knox reaches his potential as a legit offensive threat and they can draft another high-end player next year, maybe they can shrink that gulf in talent a lot sooner and become competitive.


Why do you think his potential is higher? I really don’t see it...? Maybe a small chance. I also think his bust potential is way higher.


The UK effect, and what we're hearing from workouts.

UK is notorious for limiting its players potential in game due to bad schemes. Also this year at 6'9 he was the only guy on that team who could shoot. UK had a 6'9 18 year old running over screens to get open and shoot. There is definitely something there talent wise.

Then to add to the fact that in workouts he is getting over on Miles holds weight. Miles is another lottery pick who was up until this week of one-on-ones ahead of Knox on all draft boards. I like that, for all the people who complain about how we didn't take mitchell. Lets recognize the fact he was killing it in workouts and we took Frank because of his potential. Knox seems like a happy compromise of the two. He has potential and has been killing it in workouts.
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