The Board Man Cometh!! Kawhi Leonard Signs 3 Year (2+1), $103 Million Deal

[MartinToVaught]

i mean you gotta start somewhere. either way i'm secretly (not so secretly?) hoping we don't go anywhere with this. i simply can't imagine this happens without us losing all three of harris/12/13. and we spend the next year freaking out that kawhi won't re-sign.

Harris/12/13 is definitely too much to give up, IMO. We're not one Kawhi Leonard away from a championship. We're not on a win-now timeline. And there is tons of drama and uncertainty with Kawhi at the moment.

Without assurances of another big move (i.e. LeBron), I'd rather trade Harris/12/13 for Doncic than Kawhi.

[Max Headrom]

i mean you gotta start somewhere. either way i'm secretly (not so secretly?) hoping we don't go anywhere with this. i simply can't imagine this happens without us losing all three of harris/12/13. and we spend the next year freaking out that kawhi won't re-sign.

Harris/12/13 is definitely too much to give up, IMO. We're not one Kawhi Leonard away from a championship. We're not on a win-now timeline. And there is tons of drama and uncertainty with Kawhi at the moment.

Without assurances of another big move (i.e. LeBron), I'd rather trade Harris/12/13 for Doncic than Kawhi.

I don't follow college or international ball closely so, if you say you'd be willing to give up Harris and the picks for Doncic, is he projected as a can't miss/special player type of player?

[MartinToVaught]

i mean you gotta start somewhere. either way i'm secretly (not so secretly?) hoping we don't go anywhere with this. i simply can't imagine this happens without us losing all three of harris/12/13. and we spend the next year freaking out that kawhi won't re-sign.

Harris/12/13 is definitely too much to give up, IMO. We're not one Kawhi Leonard away from a championship. We're not on a win-now timeline. And there is tons of drama and uncertainty with Kawhi at the moment.

Without assurances of another big move (i.e. LeBron), I'd rather trade Harris/12/13 for Doncic than Kawhi.

I don't follow college or international ball closely so, if you say you'd be willing to give up Harris and the picks for Doncic, is he projected as a can't miss/special player type of player?

Doncic is absolutely special. He's Ben Simmons with a jump shot. Also clutch, poised and a winner - as shown by his championship performances in Europe recently.

Now, unlike Kawhi, he still hasn't proven anything at the NBA level yet, so there's always a risk factor there. But he's cheaper, under team control for longer and a better fit for our team's timeline than Kawhi is.

[Max Headrom]

Harris/12/13 is definitely too much to give up, IMO. We're not one Kawhi Leonard away from a championship. We're not on a win-now timeline. And there is tons of drama and uncertainty with Kawhi at the moment.

Without assurances of another big move (i.e. LeBron), I'd rather trade Harris/12/13 for Doncic than Kawhi.

I don't follow college or international ball closely so, if you say you'd be willing to give up Harris and the picks for Doncic, is he projected as a can't miss/special player type of player?

Doncic is absolutely special. He's Ben Simmons with a jump shot. Also clutch, poised and a winner - as shown by his championship performances in Europe recently.

Now, unlike Kawhi, he still hasn't proven anything at the NBA level yet, so there's always a risk factor there. But he's cheaper, under team control for longer and a better fit for our team's timeline than Kawhi is.

Ahh, I see. Thanks, I'm gonna have to check him out. My boy raves about him as well but I didn't know much about him. I see the Hawks are now considering him at #3 so if the Clippers were to get their hands on him, I'm guessing it'll take a lot to move up to the third spot in the draft.

[mkwest]

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Jerry West is "running point" in efforts to bring Kawhi to the Clippers, per @KellyIkoNBA.

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Jerry West is "running point" in efforts to bring Kawhi to the Clippers, per @KellyIkoNBA.

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As they should be for Kawhi.

[nickhx2]

who is even of worth besides our picks and Harris?

[Quake Griffin]

Another problem I just thought of with Kawhi: how are we supposed to build a real winner around him with no Tobias, no draft picks, and Gallo's contract still on the books? Then either Kawhi signs an extension and we're stuck in a worse version of the Lob City era (a treadmill team with no room to improve), or he walks in free agency and we're in an even worse position.

The more I think about it, the more it doesn't make sense. Trading up for Doncic is the far better move with our timeline and cap situation.

I said this months ago and Q echoed the sentiments above when people said OF COURSE I’D GIVE BOTH LOTTERY PICKS UP FOR HIM.

That’s no FRP in 2017.
None in 2018.
None in 2019 as he would probably push us to the 8th seed.

Mr. Drafting is the lifeblood of an organization would go have to wait until his 4th season here before he could help make a 1st round draft choice. Kawhi would have no incentive to stay...

I mean unless him coming meant LeBron signed here. Even then it would be those 2 and 13 Wal Mart workers more than likely.


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[TucsonClip]

I've been telling you guys this was the plan for the last year plus. I had heard via free agency, but the issues in San Antonio push up the time table.

This is, and has been, real.

[KXKriszna]

Just a quick question.
We are talking about getting Kawhi for both our picks.
But there is a rule saying that we MUST have a pick in this year's first round (if I'm correct)
So are we expecting Spurs to give us Kawhi + 18?? It seems like we would have to give much more for Spurs to accept that offer.
Or do you think there will be a 3rd team involved with pick later in first round?

[nickhx2]

I've been telling you guys this was the plan for the last year plus. I had heard via free agency, but the issues in San Antonio push up the time table.

This is, and has been, real.

i imagine part of the plan is to not just go after kawhi, but open up space for another big star.

so let's say we trade a combination of 12/13/harris/young guys for kawhi. then i assume jordan opts in. how do we make space for another player while jordan is seeking a new contract while also having gallo on the books?

[TucsonClip]

Just a quick question.
We are talking about getting Kawhi for both our picks.
But there is a rule saying that we MUST have a pick in this year's first round (if I'm correct)
So are we expecting Spurs to give us Kawhi + 18?? It seems like we would have to give much more for Spurs to accept that offer.
Or do you think there will be a 3rd team involved with pick later in first round?

Stepien rule applies to future picks only. You can deal those picks on draft night.

[mkwest]

Just a quick question.
We are talking about getting Kawhi for both our picks.
But there is a rule saying that we MUST have a pick in this year's first round (if I'm correct)
So are we expecting Spurs to give us Kawhi + 18?? It seems like we would have to give much more for Spurs to accept that offer.
Or do you think there will be a 3rd team involved with pick later in first round?

We owe Boston our 1st pick in 2019 (lottery-protected through 2020, otherwise it becomes 2 seconds). The Clippers would draft for the Spurs and then finalize the trade. By drafting at 12, the Clippers fulfill their obligation to the Stepien rule and are free to trade the draft rights of 12 & 13.

[TucsonClip]

I've been telling you guys this was the plan for the last year plus. I had heard via free agency, but the issues in San Antonio push up the time table.

This is, and has been, real.

i imagine part of the plan is to not just go after kawhi, but open up space for another big star.

so let's say we trade a combination of 12/13/harris/young guys for kawhi. then i assume jordan opts in. how do we make space for another player while jordan is seeking a new contract while also having gallo on the books?

Milos opts out/in because we have a trade for him, Austin opts in, DJ opts in. We trade DJ and use part/all of those assets to dump Austin when he opts in.

Without looking, that puts us near a max slot, assuming we dont have to take backsomeone like Mills for Kawhi.

[donemilio21]

I've been telling you guys this was the plan for the last year plus. I had heard via free agency, but the issues in San Antonio push up the time table.

This is, and has been, real.

i imagine part of the plan is to not just go after kawhi, but open up space for another big star.

so let's say we trade a combination of 12/13/harris/young guys for kawhi. then i assume jordan opts in. how do we make space for another player while jordan is seeking a new contract while also having gallo on the books?

Milos opts out/in because we have a trade for him, Austin opts in, DJ opts in. We trade DJ and use part/all of those assets to dump Austin when he opts in.

Without looking, that puts us near a max slot, assuming we dont have to take backsomeone like Mills for Kawhi.

I highly doubt DJ will opt in. Unless he does it to get traded to his desired destination.
I think he can get a 4 year $80 million contract no problem.

[QRich3]

Don't think Boston will join any bidding war with him saying that he'll only resign in LA.

They're definitely gonna try, reports are they are already asking. And so is Philly, and a bunch of teams more. Paul George wanted to go to the Lakers too, now Stein is reporting that he might re-up in OKC. Good teams will take the gamble pretty much every time.

I find it impossible that we are gonna be able to open another max slot after trading for Kawhi, even if DJ opts out, we dump Wes on the Spurs and get no contract back, and we miraculously dump Austin and Milos for pure capspace, Kawhi/Gallo/Lou/Bev/Boban/young guys already make $75M, already not enough for a max. Too many moving parts for it to happen, and I wouldn't even be happy with what's left, even with two stars.

[nickhx2]

trust in the logo

or some kind of saying like that, which doesn't have a whole lot of rationale besides blind faith

[nickhx2]

hey have i mentioned how much easier this would've been with all those draft picks we lit on fire?

[esqtvd]

hey have i mentioned how much easier this would've been with all those draft picks we lit on fire?

only you and everybody else LOL

but one pick, the 2019, becomes a 2nd rounder if we miss the playoffs next year, IOW worthless
or if we make the playoffs, it's 15th or worse, which is nice but not going to land major talent

the other pick was Houston's this year, the 30th, which is pretty much a 2nd-rounder


ATL is shopping the 19th and the 30th as we speak
let's see what they can get for them

[Ranma]

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