Wendell Carter Jr - The Block Panther Edition

madvillian · Post #661 » by **madvillian** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:01 pm

Yea the 1st thing this dude needs to do is get cut. If he can't be the quickest guy he can at least be in great shape and get in a stance.

realEAST · Post #662 » by **realEAST** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:12 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
realEAST wrote:
I think what most are more worried about is his lateral mobility, which is more important when defending P'n'R

Lose the baby fat (which I think he has) and emphasize working on your quick twitch muscles.

Nobody expects 5's to elitely defend 1's and 2's... if he's gotten quicker (which he says he has) then I'm hoping he can stay in front of them with his feet and length.

He’s not stuck in mud and I think proper coaching can help too. To me I’m with you and think it’s overblown.

I really do hope he does, because I like everything else regarding him. It's just that this is so important part of the game for the modern big. Good awareness gives me hope.

What's funny, he seemed more of a slider than jumper early in the season when I watched him, but it turns out the opposite might be the case.

JohnnyTapwater · Post #663 » by **JohnnyTapwater** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:12 pm

Mr. Wendell on Lauri's workout plan is a different monster.

Chi town · Post #664 » by **Chi town** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:20 pm

My hope is Wendell becomes the Deng of Cs with a 3 ball.

Hangtime84 · Post #665 » by **Hangtime84** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:22 pm

Chi town wrote:My hope is Wendell becomes the Deng of Cs with a 3 ball.

Credit Doug for that analogy lol

Chi town · Post #666 » by **Chi town** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:23 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:
Chi town wrote:My hope is Wendell becomes the Deng of Cs with a 3 ball.

Credit Doug for that analogy lol

Didn’t know he said it. Thanks Doug!

Mbrahv0528 · Post #667 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:27 pm

Darius Miles Davis wrote:
Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:What? Capella is a damn gazelle out there.

Who didn't play in the 4th quarters of the playoffs. Capella is also in year 4. He wasn't much as a rookie. Carter is way ahead of him right now.

I think if Bagley had stayed in HS and not reclassified that Carter would have BOOMED at Duke and he would have gone 1 or 2.

Is it also possible Capela got pulled in 4th quarters of playoff games because he shoots 56% from the line?

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It is, but he's not going to admit that though. He just likes to say things when he's against something the Bulls do or don't do.

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TheSuzerain · Post #668 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:32 pm

Mbrahv0528 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:
Chi town wrote:
Who didn't play in the 4th quarters of the playoffs. Capella is also in year 4. He wasn't much as a rookie. Carter is way ahead of him right now.

I think if Bagley had stayed in HS and not reclassified that Carter would have BOOMED at Duke and he would have gone 1 or 2.

Is it also possible Capela got pulled in 4th quarters of playoff games because he shoots 56% from the line?

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It is, but he's not going to admit that though. He just likes to say things when he's against something the Bulls do or don't do.

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What the **** does this have to do with the Bulls? We're talking about the Rockets.

And with the rules changes, intentional fouling isn't much of a concern anymore.

bad knees · Post #669 » by **bad knees** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:32 pm

I'm going to try to be a bit more positive about Wendell. I was wrong about Lauri; maybe I'll be wrong about Wendell too.

To that end, here is a video analysis from The Stepien that argues that Wendell has the ability to guard decently well on the perimeter and that his problems doing so to date have stemmed from poor technique. The analyst actually found a few examples of Wendell demonstrating some ability in this area. He also found some horrible closeouts that will make your hair stand on end.

Maybe we should focus on the good stuff.

https://www.thestepien.com/2018/06/11/wendell-carter-quick-enough-todays-nba/

Mbrahv0528 · Post #670 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:35 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:
Is it also possible Capela got pulled in 4th quarters of playoff games because he shoots 56% from the line?

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It is, but he's not going to admit that though. He just likes to say things when he's against something the Bulls do or don't do.

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What the **** does this have to do with the Bulls? We're talking about the Rockets.

And with the rules changes, intentional fouling isn't much of a concern anymore.

Lol. Back on topic then. WCJ is not as bad as you're making him out to be.

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BahamaBull · Post #671 » by **BahamaBull** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:35 pm

If the Bulls take on dengs contract and get Kuz I believe we can make it to the playoffs next year. Is that a good thing? Or should we tank?

PG Dunn
SG Lavine
SF Kuzma
PF Lauri
C Carter

Bench

Hutchison
Portis
Valentine
Lopez
Holiday

TheSuzerain · Post #672 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:36 pm

Mbrahv0528 wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:It is, but he's not going to admit that though. He just likes to say things when he's against something the Bulls do or don't do.

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What the **** does this have to do with the Bulls? We're talking about the Rockets.

And with the rules changes, intentional fouling isn't much of a concern anymore.
Lol. Back on topic then. WCJ is not as bad as you're making him out to be.

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Saying he's not Clint Capela with a jump shot is calling him bad? Really?

TheSuzerain · Post #673 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:39 pm

I predict Wendell Carter becomes a fringe top 10 center in the league.

I also think the 10th best center is probably worth less than the 20th best wing or the 15th best PG.

sco · Post #674 » by **sco** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:48 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:I predict Wendell Carter becomes a fringe top 10 center in the league.

I also think the 10th best center is probably worth less than the 20th best wing or the 15th best PG.

Who's the 10th best C now? You may be right. Something like a Whiteside, Drummond or B. Lopez.

Truebiscuit · Post #675 » by **Truebiscuit** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:48 pm

bad knees wrote:I'm going to try to be a bit more positive about Wendell. I was wrong about Lauri; maybe I'll be wrong about Wendell too.

To that end, here is a video analysis from The Stepien that argues that Wendell has the ability to guard decently well on the perimeter and that his problems doing so to date have stemmed from poor technique. The analyst actually found a few examples of Wendell demonstrating some ability in this area. He also found some horrible closeouts that will make your hair stand on end.

Maybe we should focus on the good stuff.

https://www.thestepien.com/2018/06/11/wendell-carter-quick-enough-todays-nba/

I appreciate you being more positive on the kid. He's 19 years old and he's been told where he needs to improve... let's give him a chance to do so and actually watch him in the NBA before we say he can't do this or he's a bust.

Chi town · Post #676 » by **Chi town** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:51 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:I predict Wendell Carter becomes a fringe top 10 center in the league.

I also think the 10th best center is probably worth less than the 20th best wing or the 15th best PG.

This has been my arguement and why I wanted Mikal over Wendell.

If Dunn Lavine or Hutch don’t become stars we are Screwed.

TheSuzerain · Post #677 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:51 pm

sco wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I predict Wendell Carter becomes a fringe top 10 center in the league.

I also think the 10th best center is probably worth less than the 20th best wing or the 15th best PG.

Who's the 10th best C now? You may be right. Something like a Whiteside, Drummond or B. Lopez.

Right. That's about the range.

Wouldn't compare Carter to those guys directly, but I think he's that tier of player.

Jcool0 · Post #678 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:53 pm

Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I predict Wendell Carter becomes a fringe top 10 center in the league.

I also think the 10th best center is probably worth less than the 20th best wing or the 15th best PG.

This has been my arguement and why I wanted Mikal over Wendell.

If Dunn Lavine or Hutch don’t become stars we are Screwed.

But Mikal wont ever be a top 20 wing.

Mbrahv0528 · Post #679 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:53 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:What the **** does this have to do with the Bulls? We're talking about the Rockets.

And with the rules changes, intentional fouling isn't much of a concern anymore.
Lol. Back on topic then. WCJ is not as bad as you're making him out to be.

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Saying he's not Clint Capela with a jump shot is calling him bad? Really?

I'm more referring to your overarching posts on WCJ in general. I'm not touching the Capella comparison because it is not a good one.

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Chi town · Post #680 » by **Chi town** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:55 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I predict Wendell Carter becomes a fringe top 10 center in the league.

I also think the 10th best center is probably worth less than the 20th best wing or the 15th best PG.

This has been my arguement and why I wanted Mikal over Wendell.

If Dunn Lavine or Hutch don’t become stars we are Screwed.

But Mikal wont ever be a top 20 wing.

Debatable. Will be ridiculously efficient. Is Otto top 20?

Right pick?