The Troy Brown Thread

[80sballboy]

Wiggins also has ridiculously low basketball IQ and doesn’t even help his team win

That's not the point. He asked why Wiggins was a better prospect coming out. Now, we see the flaws. Better athlete doesn't always equate to better player but if you have both like Tatum, then you are star material.

[NatP4]

Wiggins also has ridiculously low basketball IQ and doesn’t even help his team win

That's not the point. He asked why Wiggins was a better prospect coming out. Now, we see the flaws. Better athlete doesn't always equate to better player but if you have both like Tatum, then you are star material.

When watching film, how much more athletic is Doncic than Brown? I’ve seen multiple articles calling Brown “a poor man’s Doncic”

Makes me wonder what Brown would do in the euro league..

[FAH1223]

Wiggins also has ridiculously low basketball IQ and doesn’t even help his team win

That's not the point. He asked why Wiggins was a better prospect coming out. Now, we see the flaws. Better athlete doesn't always equate to better player but if you have both like Tatum, then you are star material.

When watching film, how much more athletic is Doncic than Brown? I’ve seen multiple articles calling Brown “a poor man’s Doncic”

Makes me wonder what Brown would do in the euro league..

Watch Doncic be mad athletic in Rick Carlisle's annual "let's sweep the Wizards" tour this coming season.

[Kanyewest]

You’re going to be comparing an 18 year old that isn’t getting minutes to a 22 year old that is? Sounds about right.

Lonnie Walker? Are you serious? Divincenzo? He’s 22 years old. You wanted to take a 22 year old with a role player ceiling instead of an 18 year old 6’7 wing with a 6’11 wingspan that was the 13th ranked player in his class?

26 picks before Robert Williams. Your criticism is ridiculous. He has major injury/character/work ethic questions, and doesn’t fit the new NBA.

This is just getting ridiculous, you’ve attempted to rationalize EVERY single other pick made but ours, you originally complained about not drafting for need (which is a terrible practice) but now you claim we should’ve picked Divincenzo or Lonnie Walker, who are also not centers. You ignore ALL of the red flags on Robert Williams.

Look at all these people claiming the shooting is nothing to be concerned about:
https://www.nba.com/wizards/what-theyre-saying-about-wizards-draft

Must all be wrong

Donte is 21 with a 40 inch vertical that already has NBA 3 point range.

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I'm hoping Brown develops. Leonard also had a 29% 3 point range coming out of college. I would have preferred Donte but I'm hoping that Brown proves me wrong.

He also has a very concerning 6’6 wingspan that will limit him to PG/SG where we already have Wall/Beal/Sato. He would’ve been a nice fit, but only in a limited role. Brown presents far more upside, I’m sure you agree. Most likely a lower floor as well, but what was Divincenzo doing at 18? Shooting 28% and averaging more turnovers than assists.

Brown could be very good with his ability to guard multiple players. It is a long term bet though, I'm not sure how high his ceiling (ie how well does he play without the ball in his hands?) Guess we'll find out soon


DiVencenzo only played 8 games (74 minutes) in his freshman season and got injured and was red shirted; not enough data to draw any real conclusions from. He was healthy enough in time for the tournament and according to Bridges, he recreated the role of Buddy Hield on scout team, who only had 9 points.

I guess I could see Donte having a role similar to Rozier/Sato/Bledsoe(when he was on his rookie contract). I do think the Wizards need another guard to preserve Wall/Beal in the long haul both in terms of depth and as an insurance policy in case the Wizards want to do a trade. I suppose Brown could be a starter or role player.

[pcbothwel]

Wiggins also has ridiculously low basketball IQ and doesn’t even help his team win

That's not the point. He asked why Wiggins was a better prospect coming out. Now, we see the flaws. Better athlete doesn't always equate to better player but if you have both like Tatum, then you are star material.

When watching film, how much more athletic is Doncic than Brown? I’ve seen multiple articles calling Brown “a poor man’s Doncic”

Makes me wonder what Brown would do in the euro league..

Brown is a better athlete than doncic, but doncic is the better passer and shooter...hence, poor mans.
That said, Doncic profiles as an elite passer and shooter/scorer...so "poor mans" is relative

[Ruzious]

If all things go well with Troy, he could very well be just about as good as DDV... by the time their rookie contracts expire.

Whatever that means.

Divincenzo played for Villanova by the way, not a bad Oregon team.

Ok... what's that got to with anything?

[Ruzious]

Um... what?

You're reasoning that DDV's going to have a better season is based on Milwaukee being a worse team than Washington? Based on... their regular season record - even with Milwaukee changing coaches during the season? That Milwaukee lost a great 7 game series to Boston? Just stop and admit this isn't worth arguing about.

Ehhhh... it's the offseason. What would you say is worth arguing about? You clearly feel this topic is. As for the Bucks, I'll believe it when I see it. Kidd wasn't a very good coach, but he also got way too much blame for what was happening there. Beyond Giannis, and to a lesser extent Middleton (who would really be well served to ask to scale his role back and focus more on defense again), that team isn't very good. Neither are the Wizards, but I have a pretty hard time seeing how you can be more optimistic on the Bucks than on the Wizards. The promises of changes that never quite seem to happen, I suppose.

I agree that there's not a whole lot of difference between the Bucks and Wiz - though I'd give the Bucks a slight advantage. My point was that your point was silly - that you expect DDV to do better because he'll be playing for a worse team. If the Wiz do have an advantage, it's tiny - certainly not enough to be the reason a player will do better for being on the lesser team. They're both returning basically the same team, so we know what they are. Anyway, to each his own.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Fair enough. I get calling the Wizards and Bucks comparable teams. I disagree that there isn't a point there, though, even though I may have articulated it poorly. The Wizards are pretty thin, but they're nothing compared to the Bucks. Giannis is so much better than anyone on the Wizards it's pretty outrageous, and yet, the Wizards are still slightly a better team than the Bucks because after Giannis, the Wizards have a better team. With that in mind, I expect Divincenzo to play more minutes and have higher per game stats due to more mpg. Outside of that, I'm not expecting him to really outclass Brown overall.

[NatP4]

If all things go well with Troy, he could very well be just about as good as DDV... by the time their rookie contracts expire.

Whatever that means.

Divincenzo played for Villanova by the way, not a bad Oregon team.

Ok... what's that got to with anything?

.....playing with 3 other NBA players (two first round picks) and the best coach and team in CBB.....might’ve inflated his stats....just a hunch. (Not that his stats were better at the same age anyways)

[Ruzious]

Whatever that means.

Divincenzo played for Villanova by the way, not a bad Oregon team.

Ok... what's that got to with anything?

.....playing with 3 other NBA players (two first round picks) and the best coach and team in CBB.....might’ve inflated his stats....just a hunch. (Not that his stats were better at the same age anyways)

Talk to I like Dirt. He was just using the opposite argument about how Brown and DDV will do in the NBA. You guys can have some fascinating conversations.

[dckingsfan]

Watch Doncic be mad athletic in Rick Carlisle's annual "let's sweep the Wizards" tour this coming season.

[closg00]

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[Endless Loop]

Part of what motivated Ted/Ernie was probably that this time one thing really is different: the Go-Gos. The presence of a D-League affiliate in DC could make it a lot easier for Brown to develop. It would be the best of both worlds. He'll get playing time while also getting a lot of exposure to the "big league" team. For Ted, it's a really good marketing move. Brown would be a nice draw for the Go-Gos.

If the Wizards want to make some high ROI investments, then they should work hard to stock up the Go-Gos with some good prospects, coaches and a structured development program. I'd be aggressive with this year's free agents.

[Kanyewest]

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[jangles86]

Sounds like the kid is very good on the pick and roll. Which means we could move Gortat to the second unit and let Brown and Sato be our main ball handlers with Oubre starting.

[FAH1223]

He was on the Junkies this morning. He is definitely well-spoken and sounds like a confident kid.

[NatP4]

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Ehh, have now heard Brown say this multiple times including draft night, his press conference yesterday, and now today on the junkies.

It’s highly disappointing to see only Beal reach out to him, but also encouraging to see Beal step up as a leader.

[FAH1223]

It’s highly disappointing to see only Beal reach out to him, but also encouraging to see Beal step up as a leader.

Wall normally goes to Vegas and meets with the rookies there.