Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[hookshot199]

I see Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabu and Semi would work, but SaS certainly don’t have five roster spots open. Plus this would empty the bench almost completely. Maybe it would work with a third team involved but I wouldn’t say it’s easy at all..

I'm not sure what's on the C's board, but they've got to send $15.1 mil in salary back to the Spurs. There's no way to do that without sending back Brown and Morris unless they're counting Marcus Smart, and I don't think they can move him without his consent because I believe he's a free agent.

Smart S&T works just fine…... its actually not that heavy a lift

I don't begin to claim to be an expert on the CBA and trade rules. But this is from the Knicks FAQs about free agency and trading. If I understand it correctly, Smart has to agree to the contract before you can trade him. It is my understanding that you can match an offer from a third team, but if you try to trade him to the Spurs if he doesn't wish to play for the Spurs it will become very ugly very quickly. And I suspect Popovich wouldn't take him under those circumstances.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


https://www.nba.com/knicks/freeagency/faqs.html

What is a sign-and-trade?
A team is not allowed to sign another team’s free agent and then immediately trade him. However, a team is allowed to re-sign their own free agent and immediately trade him to another team by adding a clause to the contract making it invalid if the player is not traded to a specific team within 48 hours. A sign-and-trade contract must be for three years or longer, and a team does not acquire the player’s Bird rights.

When can free agents officially beginning signing with teams?
While team’s can negotiate with free agents starting July 1, they can not officially sign a contract until July 8. This is known as the “July Moratorium” and is when the league reviews the revenue from the previous season and officially sets the salary cap.

[John Murdoch]

If Lakers get Kawhi and Lebron, then they should definitely trade Lonzo Ball for Kemba Walker. I think Kemba+Kawhi+Lebron+Randle + Filler is much better then wasting their money on Paul George when they have Lebron and Kawhi ...

Lonzo actually plays defense

[Ballings7]

Honestly, if the Spurs get Kuzma and Ingram plus a pick or two, I don't see how San Antonio doesn't make the playoffs next year or at least come close to it. Hypothetical roster:

PG - Murray
SG - Green
SF - Ingram
PF - Kuzma
C - Aldridge

Bench: Gasol, Walker, Mills, Anderson, Bertans, Ginobili

I think they'll also have some cap room to work with to short up the roster. It's not a 55 win team, but you have Pop, a great mix of offense and defense...I can see them being a 6th seed depending on how everything shakes out.

Summer of 2019, you got Green coming off the books, Gasol has $6.7 mil guaranteed, the only guy on the roster making more than $10 million is LMA. You got the Laker first rounder, your own first rounder and a ton of cap space. I think that's what San Antonio is trying to get out of it. Tread water this year, and make a run at a free agent next summer.

Of course they would make the playoffs they made it with Kawhi barley playing

That would be a nice, long athletic, talented roster with depth. Wouldn't mind it for the Spurs.

[getitdone323]

Read on Twitter

Seems like its looking more and more likely that the Spurs are leaking the "urgency" stuff. And cavs fans can admit, Vardon is a pretty reliable source.

[BVB24]

What about Gordon Hayward?

Of course they could trade Gordon Hayward, but would you take him for $98 mil after the injury
he had - and he just had to have additional surgery?

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/gordon-hayward-6891/

Gordon Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp. Can you say the same about Kawhi at this moment?

If You believe reports on the Internet, then yes, he will be. Not sure why you would choose to believe or is that Hayward will be 100% ready for training camp and choose not to believe the reports that Kawhi is already back to being 100% healthy.

[sfernald]

I see Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabu and Semi would work, but SaS certainly don’t have five roster spots open. Plus this would empty the bench almost completely. Maybe it would work with a third team involved but I wouldn’t say it’s easy at all..

I'm not sure what's on the C's board, but they've got to send $15.1 mil in salary back to the Spurs. There's no way to do that without sending back Brown and Morris unless they're counting Marcus Smart, and I don't think they can move him without his consent because I believe he's a free agent.

Smart S&T works just fine...... its actually not that heavy a lift

If Smart is the offer, what a joke.. he’s a Free Agent that Celtics can’t really afford to pay anyway..

[Homerclease]

Of course they could trade Gordon Hayward, but would you take him for $98 mil after the injury
he had - and he just had to have additional surgery?

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/gordon-hayward-6891/

Gordon Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp. Can you say the same about Kawhi at this moment?

If You believe reports on the Internet, then yes, he will be. Not sure why you would choose to believe or is that Hayward will be 100% ready for training camp and choose not to believe the reports that Kawhi is already back to being 100% healthy.

I know next to nothing about Kawhis quad injury. I know teams were still concerned about it as of last week. I know from the Boston globe that Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp

[HurricaneKid]

Read on Twitter

Seems like its looking more and more likely that the Spurs are leaking the "urgency" stuff. And cavs fans can admit, Vardon is a pretty reliable source.

OR LeBron didn't text him, his boy in the same room texted him.

I try to stay away from all the gossip because even when people are telling the truth they are actively misleading.

[OdomFan]

Lakers should sign Lebron then trade him to the Spurs for Leonard.

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Spurs showed their hand and tried everything they could possibly muster to increase their haul for KL.

It didnt work.

I think BI + future firsts gets the deal done, plus or minus some minor pieces.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

If Marcus Smart agrees to sign in San Antonio - Smart, Brown, and picks, including MEM 2019 1st?

Murray/Mills/White
Green/Smart/Walker
Brown/?/Hilliard
Anderson/Bertans/Metu
Aldridge/Gasol/Costello

[jfs1000d]

The Celtics overachieving last season takes them out of the KL situation - they dont need him and they wont give up what he costs to acquire him, even if it is to just spite the Lakers.

The only people that are talking are LAL and SAS, expect a deal done by tomorrow - whatever that may actually be.

Celtics overachieve?


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[BVB24]

Every time I come on RealGM Lakers fans somehow manage to overrate Ingram even more than the last time.

Amazing.

Exactly. The guy had a 13.8 PER last season and his usage % (basically how many offense possessions he’s used in) is the same as Ben Simmons... in other words, he’s doesn’t shoot it much. He’s a nice young player (only 20) whose selling point right now is his potential, but people on this board speak of him like he’s the next Kawhi. He’s not.

[getitdone323]

Read on Twitter

Seems like its looking more and more likely that the Spurs are leaking the "urgency" stuff. And cavs fans can admit, Vardon is a pretty reliable source.

OR LeBron didn't text him, his boy in the same room texted him.

I try to stay away from all the gossip because even when people are telling the truth they are actively misleading.

Dont really care about the KD text stuff because anyone with common sense knows that is just clickbait stuff from Stephen A Smith. The part about LBJ decision being independent of KL is what most people figured. All the reports about him deciding early would not be out if he has not already decided where is going (cle or somewhere else)

[CeltsfaninDC]

I'm not sure what's on the C's board, but they've got to send $15.1 mil in salary back to the Spurs. There's no way to do that without sending back Brown and Morris unless they're counting Marcus Smart, and I don't think they can move him without his consent because I believe he's a free agent.

Smart S&T works just fine...... its actually not that heavy a lift

If Smart is the offer, what a joke.. he’s a Free Agent that Celtics can’t really afford to pay anyway..

not even remotely true

[bebopdeluxe]

Yes. He has the potential to be a fringe all star, not super star. Having said that, I would dump him, Kuzma, and a 1st rounder for Kawhi is a heart beat.

Frankly, I think it is ridiculous that some Lakers fans think Ingram, Kuzma and a 1 is too much. Getting Kawhi probably means getting LeBron as well. I think that the Sixers will have to pay up as well.

The smarter, more patient play is just to wait another year and get Kawhi without having to give up anything...but that's just me.

[hookshot199]

What about Gordon Hayward?

Of course they could trade Gordon Hayward, but would you take him for $98 mil after the injury
he had - and he just had to have additional surgery?

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/gordon-hayward-6891/

Gordon Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp. Can you say the same about Kawhi at this moment?[/quote]


Nope. But I don't want my team, the Sixers, to make an offer for Kawhi without a complete and
independent medical sign off and foolproof contractual commitment. Secondly, Hayward is not a
top-five player, never has been, so we're comparing apples and oranges if Kawhi is healthy again.

The Sixers spent a season and a half with Joel Embiid on restricted minutes once he came back
and bult some minimal protections into his contract.

Until Hayward returns and shows he hasn't lost anything in his game, no one should take on his
contract. And I repeat: Unlike Kawhi, you're not taking a risk for a top-five player.

[John Murdoch]

Spurs showed their hand and tried everything they could possibly muster to increase their haul for KL.

It didnt work.

I think BI + future firsts gets the deal done, plus or minus some minor pieces.

thing is we need atleast one of the 1st to move deng . Cant move picks in back 2 back season

[ButCanMarkDunk]

The Celtics overachieving last season takes them out of the KL situation - they dont need him and they wont give up what he costs to acquire him, even if it is to just spite the Lakers.

The only people that are talking are LAL and SAS, expect a deal done by tomorrow - whatever that may actually be.

Celtics overachieve?


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Noone expected the Kyrie & Hawyward-less Celtics to almost make it to the Finals.

Their youth stepped it up, they did fantastic, and now there is no urgency on the C's side to give up such promising talent inexachange for a 1 year rental of a possibly damaged Kawhi.

Its a compliment to the C's.

[OdomFan]

He doesn't need to be the next anybody. He's going to be good and I hope that it's in a Laker uniform in the long run. Tired of the Lakers giving up on their young players.