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Kawhi Thread, Numero 4 -- Traded to Raptors for DeRozan, others

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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#761 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:36 pm

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I'm not so sure the spurs want leonard there to start the season. I think they are done with him. Like, completely done. I actually think the waiting game has a decent chance to backfire on them if leonard gets traded to a really good team that he ends up liking.

Minds can change. Especially over the course of an entire year. I do agree however that we shouldn't give up too much for him at this point. Unless he agrees on extension the spurs aren't getting much.

I would still give up one valuable pick and a couple of other picks and then just match salaries with players we can do without forr a chance of convincing leonard to stay. And also a very very strong one year chance at the very least for banner 18.


Possible complications and impediments include:
-- We might need to manufacture a Monroe S&T to make it happen.
-- There would then be the draft pick cost of accounting for Monroe's salary, unless San Antonio just absorbed an overpay for him themselves.
-- We might be more willing to trade Rozier if Smart were signed long term.
-- Luxury tax implications might arise, especially if Smart is signed for more than a QO.


Can they S&T Monroe if he only played under half a season here? Can they combine Monroe with another couple players still?


I'm not aware of any limitations on that. If a guy was on your roster at the end of the previous season, you can generally S&T him. I don't think there are any asterisks for whatever they call the exception that lets you sign up for 120% or less of last year's salary.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#762 » by K For Three » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:44 pm

Per ddb in the FA thread.

ddb wrote:Hearing the Celtics and Smart are close to terms for a new contract. Ironing out details

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Part of possible package for Kawhi?

Or maybe not, at the very least maybe it can cough up a few more posts here in a stale thread in the midst of a heat wave.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#763 » by CelticsPride18 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:56 pm

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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#764 » by K For Three » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:57 pm

I'll call it. Eventually he will be a Celtic. Just going to take their dear sweet time on this.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#765 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:12 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:I'll call it. Eventually he will be a Celtic. Just going to take their dear sweet time on this.

I am an outsider with no sources but you are correct.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#766 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:18 pm

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Kyrie For Three wrote:I'll call it. Eventually he will be a Celtic. Just going to take their dear sweet time on this.

I am an outsider with no sources but you are correct.

I have kind of a gross gut feeling like this as well, but i also wouldn't put it past them to just ship him to pat the rat or one of those whatever franchises for whatever matches and a few middling picks
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#767 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:31 pm

Just trade for Butler instead. F Kawhi.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#768 » by Tyakack » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:42 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Just trade for Butler instead. F Kawhi.


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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#769 » by K For Three » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:45 pm

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Kyrie For Three wrote:I'll call it. Eventually he will be a Celtic. Just going to take their dear sweet time on this.

I am an outsider with no sources but you are correct.

I have kind of a gross gut feeling like this as well, but i also wouldn't put it past them to just ship him to pat the rat or one of those whatever franchises for whatever matches and a few middling picks


Just feels to me like the longer LA doesn't get him, the more it favors the Celtics. Unless the Sixers are still in this but their packages look kinda stinky.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#770 » by K For Three » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:49 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:I'll call it. Eventually he will be a Celtic. Just going to take their dear sweet time on this.

I am an outsider with no sources but you are correct.


Just a matter of time. Anyday now.


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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#771 » by Gant » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:52 pm

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Kyrie For Three wrote:I'll call it. Eventually he will be a Celtic. Just going to take their dear sweet time on this.

I am an outsider with no sources but you are correct.


If you're getting your info from Shams and Woj, you're as much of an insider as most reporters.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#772 » by K For Three » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:54 pm

https://sports.yahoo.com/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-lakers-174601722.html

• Multiple league sources have described the Lakers' proposals for Leonard as "underwhelming" and "flat-out unacceptable." (Kevin O'Connor, The Ringer).

• The Boston Celtics are among several teams speaking with the Spurs and have the assets San Antonio covets. (Adrian Wojnarowski, ESPN).


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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#773 » by SMTBSI » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:58 pm

Have we even been given permission to speak to Kawhi yet?

To me, this negotiation doesn't really begin until we get to say to him, "Okay, the Warriors are a thing. We really believe that we are the only team with a real chance to take them down, with you in the fold. Why does that not interest you?" and hear what he has to say in response.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#774 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:20 pm

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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#775 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:23 pm

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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#776 » by leper-con » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:27 pm

Pretty much, says no one wants to go to Phillie, those guys are pipe dreaming. It is still an undesirable location .
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#777 » by Kefa461 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:28 pm

after Smart gets signed the ball gets rolling.....
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#778 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:28 pm

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Pretty decent. Chandler is somewhat underrated, solid player, solid trade for the 6ers. Obviously for Denver it's for them to get under the cap. No idea if they got there tho.
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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#779 » by Tyakack » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:29 pm

SMTBSI wrote:Have we even been given permission to speak to Kawhi yet?

To me, this negotiation doesn't really begin until we get to say to him, "Okay, the Warriors are a thing. We really believe that we are the only team with a real chance to take them down, with you in the fold. Why does that not interest you?" and hear what he has to say in response.


Mmmmhmmm. That's plan A.. If that doesn't work we can always try plan B.



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Re: Kawhi Update Thread, Numero 4 

Post#780 » by leper-con » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:29 pm

kawhi is going to the Celtics or Lakers. that is all.

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