HarthorneWingo wrote:reub wrote:Machado isn't happening. And I don't believe in sacrificing so much for one player anyway. It usually spells disaster. Today is Cespedes shinguard day at Citifield. How did that work out?
See? This right here is the difference between the Yankees, who act like NY team should, and the lowly Mets, who are now a joke in NY. The Yankees don't let a situation like what's happening with Cespedes stop then from their mission. They eat their mistakes. The Mets vomit them all over themselves.
If we're not going to fortify the team this offseason with a major star at a position of need, then fck it. What's the point? Trade deGrom and one of the others, because we have no offensive output from our IF positions, and tank. Trade off Bruce, maybe Rosario, Cabrera, Frazier, Dominic Smith, et al.
The Mets spend money, they have just spent it unwisely. No different than the Knicks. This is why I have always harped on building a solid foundation from within FIRST, before going out and filling in the missing pieces through free agency. Players who you draft or sign on the international market come up through your organization and get to play together and build chemistry. Like Wilmer Flores, who despite being on the Mets, was in tears when he thought he was being traded. Imagine that, an actual Mets player who wants to be here.
We can sign Machado, but it still doesn't address the horrific bullpen or players making big money who can't stay on the field. Also, keep in mind Mesoraco is a free agent after the season. He's making 13 million this season. If he is healthy and has a strong rest of the season, there will be many teams after him which is going to drive up his price. If we signed Machado and kept deGrom, he is also in line for a big raise.
Cespedes, Bruce, Frazier, Vargas, Swarzak, and Lagares. We would have to pay teams a lot of money to take them from us. This is not the Wilpon way. If it were up to me I would pay to get rid of them and open up roster spots for something different. Start fresh with a new GM. Cespedes and Bruce are the tricky ones since they are signed through 2020. What team would take Cespedes with his injury history and contract? Bruce probably can be traded if we kick in a nice chunk of money to a team. Too bad he isn't healthy now because the Yankees might have been interested since they need a first baseman. Bruce could fill 3 spots in the American League. OF, 1B and DH. He is probably the easiest to trade if we kick in money.
Getting back to Machado, there is no way we sign him because this team has a lot of question marks right now. If Cespedes makes 29 million a season, what is Machado worth? At least 30 million per season, right? Assuming our payroll jumps up to 180 million next season after signing Machado, we would now have 2 players under contract for the next 2 seasons taking up one-third of the payroll. One of which is practically guaranteed to miss lots of time due to injuries. Is Cespedes even going to be the same player when he comes back after his leg and hip issues? This is where he gets most of his power from. As an athlete, once your legs go that's pretty much it.
I would start fresh with a new gm and manager. Callaway is beyond clueless. Probably the worst manager the Mets have ever had in terms of in-game decision making.
Jeez I didn't even mention Conforto. What do we do next season if we still have Bruce, Cespedes, Conforto, and Nimmo? Someone has to go unless we stick Bruce at first. Then what about Dom Smith and Alonso? So many question marks at the moment...
This is the time when ownership needs to have a long-term strategy. Unfortunately, we have Jeff Wilpon who is reactionary and not pro-active when it comes to spotting down the road problems. Meanwhile, in the Bronx, you have Cashman and his baseball people up all night planning for today and tomorrow. Did Sandy have the strength to do that? Uh no and Jeff Wilpon is certainly not smart enough to think beyond what's directly in front of him.
At least we have a top 5 pick to look forward to next June. So it isn't all bad.