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Re: RE: Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#281 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jul 8, 2018 3:57 pm

barelyawake wrote:Media says we need a leader in the locker room. I agree. There is one in Europe who has been eyeing a return. Boris Diaw. Perfect guy for the end of the bench.
He is a nice player to add. Boris Diaw did a fantastic job playing small ball center for the Phoenix Suns after Amar'e Stoudemire was injured

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Post#282 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jul 8, 2018 4:03 pm

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BurtGummer wrote:So if Ball is cheaper that makes him better?Not to mention the bs that his father brings
If you'd seriously take Ball then I'd suggest you need to remove your head from your a**

I think people overstate the impact of his father. It was a big deal under the bright lights of LA when Ball was still coming off the glow of being a #2 overall pick. But it won't matter as much here because there just isn't as much obsession over the Wizards. Also, rather than being a highly promising #2 overall pick, Lonzo will be a guy with a modestly disappointing first season who got traded. The give a s--t factor will be greatly diminished. Mr. Ball may run to a media microphone or his twitter account to say outrageous things, but I don't think people would really care.

The thing is tho that this is what you think with the word think being key,we have no clue how it would turn out.If Howard decides to be a jerk in the locker room here too and the bs from Balls dad (if he does it) it would doom the franchise (although that's what alot of posters here want)
Wall has the chemistry with the other guys already plus he's a much better player

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Re: RE: Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#283 » by WallToWall » Sun Jul 8, 2018 4:56 pm

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barelyawake wrote:Media says we need a leader in the locker room. I agree. There is one in Europe who has been eyeing a return. Boris Diaw. Perfect guy for the end of the bench.
He is a nice player to add. Boris Diaw did a fantastic job playing small ball center for the Phoenix Suns after Amar'e Stoudemire was injured

Agree we will need someone(s) to counter the "downer" side that Rivers and Howard bring (not to mention the other emotional players we have). Not sure Diaw is the answer. Diaw last saw action with the Spurs 2 years ago. He was getting 17 mins as a backup PF, and 3rd C. He was just a presence, as in he was just there to occupy space, at the end of games, etc. I'm not sure he will add much for us, other than, as you say, a cheerleader. We need somebody who can cheer these guys on, but is also, at least, marginally productive. Not sure who that is...
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#284 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Jul 8, 2018 6:18 pm

Smart money says it blows up.

Reach is that, given tempestuous personalities and weak coach, it all clicks and what looks good on paper gets us 50+ wins and a top three seed.

Question is, if it blows up does it hasten a true rebuild — new GM, new coach, tank, etc?
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Weiss: Howard to sign a 1 year deal for the tax MLE with the Wizards 

Post#285 » by payitforward » Sun Jul 8, 2018 7:10 pm

BurtGummer wrote:
nate33 wrote:
BurtGummer wrote:So if Ball is cheaper that makes him better?Not to mention the bs that his father brings
If you'd seriously take Ball then I'd suggest you need to remove your head from your a**

I think people overstate the impact of his father. It was a big deal under the bright lights of LA when Ball was still coming off the glow of being a #2 overall pick. But it won't matter as much here because there just isn't as much obsession over the Wizards. Also, rather than being a highly promising #2 overall pick, Lonzo will be a guy with a modestly disappointing first season who got traded. The give a s--t factor will be greatly diminished. Mr. Ball may run to a media microphone or his twitter account to say outrageous things, but I don't think people would really care.

The thing is tho that this is what you think with the word think being key,we have no clue how it would turn out.If Howard decides to be a jerk in the locker room here too and the bs from Balls dad (if he does it) it would doom the franchise (although that's what alot of posters here want)
Wall has the chemistry with the other guys already plus he's a much better player

Gumball nails it -- the problem with nate's post is that he was "thinking."

If you don't "think," then you can post with the insight of a BurgGummer. I'm telling you... try it! You'll see....
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Post#286 » by barelyawake » Sun Jul 8, 2018 7:49 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
barelyawake wrote:Media says we need a leader in the locker room. I agree. There is one in Europe who has been eyeing a return. Boris Diaw. Perfect guy for the end of the bench.
He is a nice player to add. Boris Diaw did a fantastic job playing small ball center for the Phoenix Suns after Amar'e Stoudemire was injured

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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#287 » by prime1time » Mon Jul 9, 2018 12:15 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Smart money says it blows up.

Reach is that, given tempestuous personalities and weak coach, it all clicks and what looks good on paper gets us 50+ wins and a top three seed.

Question is, if it blows up does it hasten a true rebuild — new GM, new coach, tank, etc?

Were not there yet, but what does blowing it up even look like? Trading Otto, Beal and Wall and signing a bunch of scrubs?
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#288 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Jul 9, 2018 12:33 am

prime1time wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Smart money says it blows up.

Reach is that, given tempestuous personalities and weak coach, it all clicks and what looks good on paper gets us 50+ wins and a top three seed.

Question is, if it blows up does it hasten a true rebuild — new GM, new coach, tank, etc?

Were not there yet, but what does blowing it up even look like? Trading Otto, Beal and Wall and signing a bunch of scrubs?


Doesn’t make any sense to blow it up with 2 all star 24 year olds and a potential (if he ever focused on basketball) 27 year old superstar.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#289 » by prime1time » Mon Jul 9, 2018 12:41 am

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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Smart money says it blows up.

Reach is that, given tempestuous personalities and weak coach, it all clicks and what looks good on paper gets us 50+ wins and a top three seed.

Question is, if it blows up does it hasten a true rebuild — new GM, new coach, tank, etc?

Were not there yet, but what does blowing it up even look like? Trading Otto, Beal and Wall and signing a bunch of scrubs?


Doesn’t make any sense to blow it up with 2 all star 24 year olds and a potential (if he ever focused on basketball) 27 year old superstar.

I agree. Also, I feel like Ted’s experience with the Caps will influence his approach with the Wiz. I think his mindset will be continue with your core, and see how things play out. Tbh, a lot of teams that are good right now are only good because they are able to balance young players on rookie contracts with stars. Jaylen Brown is going into year 3 so an extension will be coming shortly. And while Tatum is only going into year 2, eventually he’ll be extended also. Warriors are getting more and more expensive each year so sticking it out and seeing what might eventually happen is not that bad of an idea to be honest. People don’t look at us like it but we are still fairly young. Hopefully, we keep our draft pick next year and start to build a a roster around our draft picks and our stars.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#290 » by dckingsfan » Mon Jul 9, 2018 1:17 am

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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Smart money says it blows up.

Reach is that, given tempestuous personalities and weak coach, it all clicks and what looks good on paper gets us 50+ wins and a top three seed.

Question is, if it blows up does it hasten a true rebuild — new GM, new coach, tank, etc?

Were not there yet, but what does blowing it up even look like? Trading Otto, Beal and Wall and signing a bunch of scrubs?

Blowing it up would be a trade with Wall/Mahimni and then building around Beal/Porter.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#291 » by prime1time » Mon Jul 9, 2018 1:31 am

dckingsfan wrote:
prime1time wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Smart money says it blows up.

Reach is that, given tempestuous personalities and weak coach, it all clicks and what looks good on paper gets us 50+ wins and a top three seed.

Question is, if it blows up does it hasten a true rebuild — new GM, new coach, tank, etc?

Were not there yet, but what does blowing it up even look like? Trading Otto, Beal and Wall and signing a bunch of scrubs?

Blowing it up would be a trade with Wall/Mahimni and then building around Beal/Porter.

I’m nit against it, but unless we are getting adequate return I’d like to see how this team turns out. Wall shot 37% from 3 last year. I’d love to see what this team could do with a great coach.
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Post#292 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Jul 9, 2018 3:02 am

prime1time wrote:
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
prime1time wrote:Were not there yet, but what does blowing it up even look like? Trading Otto, Beal and Wall and signing a bunch of scrubs?


Doesn’t make any sense to blow it up with 2 all star 24 year olds and a potential (if he ever focused on basketball) 27 year old superstar.

I agree. Also, I feel like Ted’s experience with the Caps will influence his approach with the Wiz. I think his mindset will be continue with your core, and see how things play out. Tbh, a lot of teams that are good right now are only good because they are able to balance young players on rookie contracts with stars. Jaylen Brown is going into year 3 so an extension will be coming shortly. And while Tatum is only going into year 2, eventually he’ll be extended also. Warriors are getting more and more expensive each year so sticking it out and seeing what might eventually happen is not that bad of an idea to be honest. People don’t look at us like it but we are still fairly young. Hopefully, we keep our draft pick next year and start to build a a roster around our draft picks and our stars.


So, I didn’t say smart money blows it up. I said smart money it blows up.

In other words, if I were to bet, I’d bet it doesn’t work.

I hope I’m wrong. I’m really interested to see it in action. I’m guessing, at the very least, there will be games when we are unstoppable.
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Post#293 » by TGW » Mon Jul 9, 2018 4:06 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
barelyawake wrote:Media says we need a leader in the locker room. I agree. There is one in Europe who has been eyeing a return. Boris Diaw. Perfect guy for the end of the bench.
He is a nice player to add. Boris Diaw did a fantastic job playing small ball center for the Phoenix Suns after Amar'e Stoudemire was injured

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Sure as hell a better idea than Jeff Green.
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Post#294 » by TheBabyMaker » Mon Jul 9, 2018 4:15 am

Love the hot takes in this thread. Wiz can have locker room issues all season and still be a top team in the East. These guys are Divas but they are pros in the end. They will be better than last year I would put money on that.
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Post#295 » by dangermouse » Mon Jul 9, 2018 7:34 am

80sballboy wrote:Dwight Howard has played for how many coaches? 15? He's known as a coach killer so for those who hate Scott Brooks, this might be a blessing in disguise.


So even if it fails, we win. Ha!
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Post#296 » by Rafael122 » Mon Jul 9, 2018 1:31 pm

I'm not as up in arms about the player option in Year 2. If Dwight has a 16 and 12 type of year, he'll opt out with more teams having cap space next summer.
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Post#297 » by MVPofDC » Mon Jul 9, 2018 1:37 pm

Even if its a 2 year deal, an aging Dwight Howard at that price is fine with me.
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Post#298 » by verbal8 » Mon Jul 9, 2018 2:26 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
barelyawake wrote:Media says we need a leader in the locker room. I agree. There is one in Europe who has been eyeing a return. Boris Diaw. Perfect guy for the end of the bench.
He is a nice player to add. Boris Diaw did a fantastic job playing small ball center for the Phoenix Suns after Amar'e Stoudemire was injured

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He seems like he might be a good addition. Age would be a concern, but you can't expect a superstar for the vet minimum.
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Post#299 » by verbal8 » Mon Jul 9, 2018 2:28 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
barelyawake wrote:Media says we need a leader in the locker room. I agree. There is one in Europe who has been eyeing a return. Boris Diaw. Perfect guy for the end of the bench.
He is a nice player to add. Boris Diaw did a fantastic job playing small ball center for the Phoenix Suns after Amar'e Stoudemire was injured

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Sure as hell a better idea than Jeff Green.


I don't think it really is an either/or option. Jeff Green has been a fear of many on this board, but that generally was about the type of contract that EG might award him. At the vet minimum that isn't an issue. Also we won't come in with an assumption of getting playing time.
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Post#300 » by dckingsfan » Mon Jul 9, 2018 2:30 pm

dangermouse wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Dwight Howard has played for how many coaches? 15? He's known as a coach killer so for those who hate Scott Brooks, this might be a blessing in disguise.

So even if it fails, we win. Ha!

Yep, he goes on a rant about getting the ball - Wall goes nuts and demands a trade and EG is finally gone. Perfect!!!

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