K-DOT wrote:I say if they're getting rid of one and done, they should make it so that if you go to college, you have to stay for 2 years before declaring for the draft
Why?
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K-DOT wrote:I say if they're getting rid of one and done, they should make it so that if you go to college, you have to stay for 2 years before declaring for the draft
Fat Kat wrote:K-DOT wrote:I say if they're getting rid of one and done, they should make it so that if you go to college, you have to stay for 2 years before declaring for the draft
Why?
awy wrote:make the gleague into a proper development league with more player support and a bit higher pay.
Fat Kat wrote:stuporman wrote:You think it's bad now with teams having to risk picking unproven kids it will only get worse.
Plus so many of these kids from poorer upbringing who really have no shot at the NBA as young as they are are going to be baited by agents into declaring for the draft then lose out on getting a chance at college and an education.
I'm not sure it will be for the better.
It was fine before the rule, and it’ll be fine after. On average, players that don’t go to school fair a lot better than players that do. Any talk of income and upbringing reeks of racial paternalism. Hockey and baseball do just fine.
K-DOT wrote:Fat Kat wrote:K-DOT wrote:I say if they're getting rid of one and done, they should make it so that if you go to college, you have to stay for 2 years before declaring for the draft
Why?
Makes it an actual choice
Like, you can leave from high school and go to the pros, or you can go to school and actually train instead of just going for one year to get it over with
Starks wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Fat Kat wrote:
About damn time
Takes effect when?
Is this where the 2020 draft becomes the deepest of all time?
2021
stuporman wrote:You think it's bad now with teams having to risk picking unproven kids it will only get worse.
Plus so many of these kids from poorer upbringing who really have no shot at the NBA as young as they are are going to be baited by agents into declaring for the draft then lose out on getting a chance at college and an education.
I'm not sure it will be for the better.
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Gonna have to change the draft format, the G-League and all that. Teams are gonna be drafting purely on upside and teams won’t get better. I think without the proper funneling and the NBA product will severely suffer.
stuporman wrote:Fat Kat wrote:stuporman wrote:You think it's bad now with teams having to risk picking unproven kids it will only get worse.
Plus so many of these kids from poorer upbringing who really have no shot at the NBA as young as they are are going to be baited by agents into declaring for the draft then lose out on getting a chance at college and an education.
I'm not sure it will be for the better.
It was fine before the rule, and it’ll be fine after. On average, players that don’t go to school fair a lot better than players that do. Any talk of income and upbringing reeks of racial paternalism. Hockey and baseball do just fine.
There wasn't as many players back then that declared right out of HS and the reason the rule came about was because as the number increased so the risk grew with unproven players and them losing opportunity before they had a chance to mature.
The reason why hockey and baseball is different is the rules, players can get drafted(or not drafted after declaring) and still go to school, so it's apples to oranges. Change that rule and this concern completely goes away since they can go to college if undrafted or by choice.
A league shouldn't be forced to take on players they deem to young for their league. This isn't like the NFL, there are plenty of opportunities to make money playing basketball away from the NBA.
SmoothLefty21 wrote:BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Gonna have to change the draft format, the G-League and all that. Teams are gonna be drafting purely on upside and teams won’t get better. I think without the proper funneling and the NBA product will severely suffer.
This should be the opportunity where we kick the tires on a real development system in this country and copy what Europe has been doing with soccer/hoops for a long time. Stop this farce of prep schools, dirty-ass AAU, and college "student-athletes".
The only thing the basketball culture in this country has ever been able to hold over the heads of young prospects is "you may not be able to go to college if you don't do xyz." Let's move beyond that and build a proper youth structure from the time these kids are 13-14. You do that, scouting kids will be much, much easier. Even easier than it is now given how different the college game is from the pro game.
Capn'O wrote:IMO, there can still be student athletes. But it should be for actual amateurs or people that choose a full education, not a faux minors system.
K-DOT wrote:I say if they're getting rid of one and done, they should make it so that if you go to college, you have to stay for 2 years before declaring for the draft
Knicksfan20 wrote:I honestly dont like it. A lot of kids are going to opt out of going to college now. It was better in the past because only 1 or 2 kids here and there would enter...but now with the NBA all about player development and what not, we are going to see a lot more kids being drafted and the NCAA going to take a hit. I enjoy watching these top prospects play college ball.
Fat Kat wrote:stuporman wrote:Fat Kat wrote:
It was fine before the rule, and it’ll be fine after. On average, players that don’t go to school fair a lot better than players that do. Any talk of income and upbringing reeks of racial paternalism. Hockey and baseball do just fine.
There wasn't as many players back then that declared right out of HS and the reason the rule came about was because as the number increased so the risk grew with unproven players and them losing opportunity before they had a chance to mature.
The reason why hockey and baseball is different is the rules, players can get drafted(or not drafted after declaring) and still go to school, so it's apples to oranges. Change that rule and this concern completely goes away since they can go to college if undrafted or by choice.
A league shouldn't be forced to take on players they deem to young for their league. This isn't like the NFL, there are plenty of opportunities to make money playing basketball away from the NBA.
Players can still go to school if they don’t hire an agent. That had nothing to do with why the rule was instituted. Sounds like you made that up.
Furthermore, no one is forcing the league to do anything, but they are choosing to do it.
KnicksFTW wrote:Not really for this rule. They added this because the drafts started putting out more busts from HS than players and they realized it was ineffective...but history repeats itself.
K-DOT wrote:I say if they're getting rid of one and done, they should make it so that if you go to college, you have to stay for 2 years before declaring for the draft