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KnicksGod wrote:alphad0gz wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:If Knox plays 32+ minutes per game, he can average 18-22 PPG
It's not rocket science
If he plays less minutes, then lower the numbers
I could be wrong about the minutes played, but I doubt I will be wrong about his production
22 ppg puts him around all time top 25 rookie scoring. You guys need to pump the brakes a bit. He has never been a consistent shooter and he will not get the calls as a rookie. 16-17 would be exceptional. 22 ppg is great for a guy playing more than 32 minutes. So much craziness going on. Summer.....League.....
The guys don’t come into the NBA shooting consistently unless they’re pure shooters and don’t do a ton more.
Goes moreso for guys who are big and skilled. Even Bron didn’t come in with a reliable J and he was only a year younger.
Mecca wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:Mecca wrote:
see this:
Very easy to see how Knox can get 15.
trey burke is not putting up 17. and KP will be back.
8 sounds like a lot for robinson this year, especially with kanter in the fold.
if knox did 15 ppg that would be astounding.
The points have to come somewhere JVG. Can you show me where?
I won’t include KP since I don’t know if/when he comes back. Lee is also likely a goner.
alphad0gz wrote:KnicksGod wrote:alphad0gz wrote:
22 ppg puts him around all time top 25 rookie scoring. You guys need to pump the brakes a bit. He has never been a consistent shooter and he will not get the calls as a rookie. 16-17 would be exceptional. 22 ppg is great for a guy playing more than 32 minutes. So much craziness going on. Summer.....League.....
The guys don’t come into the NBA shooting consistently unless they’re pure shooters and don’t do a ton more.
Goes moreso for guys who are big and skilled. Even Bron didn’t come in with a reliable J and he was only a year younger.
That's just not true at all. KAT shot well, KP shot well, Gallo, Tatum, Melo, and lots of others. It just depends on the player. Knox has range but as of now he lacks consistency. One other thing that hasn't been talked about is his almost non-existent mid range game. It is either deep jumpers or drives to the hoop.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
Phish Tank wrote:Mecca wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
trey burke is not putting up 17. and KP will be back.
8 sounds like a lot for robinson this year, especially with kanter in the fold.
if knox did 15 ppg that would be astounding.
The points have to come somewhere JVG. Can you show me where?
I won’t include KP since I don’t know if/when he comes back. Lee is also likely a goner.
Swap Mitch for Kornet and you may be more accurate. Mitch will be in the d league for a good chunk of the 1st half of the season.
If Burke and Timmy get 34, I’m guessing Knox and the remaining averages will be lower
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Oscirus wrote:alphad0gz wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
The guys don’t come into the NBA shooting consistently unless they’re pure shooters and don’t do a ton more.
Goes moreso for guys who are big and skilled. Even Bron didn’t come in with a reliable J and he was only a year younger.
That's just not true at all. KAT shot well, KP shot well, Gallo, Tatum, Melo, and lots of others. It just depends on the player. Knox has range but as of now he lacks consistency. One other thing that hasn't been talked about is his almost non-existent mid range game. It is either deep jumpers or drives to the hoop.
Just because he hasn't been using the midrange jumper doesn't mean that he doesn't have it. If anything the fact tht he's not settling for those is a strength, not a weakness.
No because Westbrook is probably the lowest bball IQ good player in the history of the nbasushibear wrote:We might have a westbrook vs kd situation with knox and kp
Or kill his defensive potential. No thank youtaj2133 wrote:I know you guys hate kanter but kanter is going to help robinson on his offensive game especially in practice.
alphad0gz wrote:KnicksGod wrote:alphad0gz wrote:
22 ppg puts him around all time top 25 rookie scoring. You guys need to pump the brakes a bit. He has never been a consistent shooter and he will not get the calls as a rookie. 16-17 would be exceptional. 22 ppg is great for a guy playing more than 32 minutes. So much craziness going on. Summer.....League.....
The guys don’t come into the NBA shooting consistently unless they’re pure shooters and don’t do a ton more.
Goes moreso for guys who are big and skilled. Even Bron didn’t come in with a reliable J and he was only a year younger.
That's just not true at all. KAT shot well, KP shot well, Gallo, Tatum, Melo, and lots of others. It just depends on the player. Knox has range but as of now he lacks consistency. One other thing that hasn't been talked about is his almost non-existent mid range game. It is either deep jumpers or drives to the hoop.
MaseInYourFace wrote:I don't know anymore if Knicks should put Robinson in g league. Really nobody on the roster stopping him from being on the NBA team.
2010 wrote:MaseInYourFace wrote:I don't know anymore if Knicks should put Robinson in g league. Really nobody on the roster stopping him from being on the NBA team.
earthmansurfer wrote:Phish Tank wrote:Mecca wrote:
The points have to come somewhere JVG. Can you show me where?
I won’t include KP since I don’t know if/when he comes back. Lee is also likely a goner.
Swap Mitch for Kornet and you may be more accurate. Mitch will be in the d league for a good chunk of the 1st half of the season.
If Burke and Timmy get 34, I’m guessing Knox and the remaining averages will be lower
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But Mitch right now can do more on defense than Kornet probably ever can. We might really keep him around just for defensive purposes. And who knows what Mitch does with a real PG on oops and such. I know he hasn't played organized ball in the last year, up to summer league anyway, but let's not forget he was the 3rd ranked center coming out of HS.
alphad0gz wrote:Oscirus wrote:alphad0gz wrote:
That's just not true at all. KAT shot well, KP shot well, Gallo, Tatum, Melo, and lots of others. It just depends on the player. Knox has range but as of now he lacks consistency. One other thing that hasn't been talked about is his almost non-existent mid range game. It is either deep jumpers or drives to the hoop.
Just because he hasn't been using the midrange jumper doesn't mean that he doesn't have it. If anything the fact tht he's not settling for those is a strength, not a weakness.
You're just a blind supporter and you're spouting crazy stuff. Having and using a midrange jumper actually helps your game as it opens up opportunities for the other parts. It makes you more unpredictable. If guys know you're going all the way to the hoop once you put the ball on the floor, you are easier to defend. I think the guy is really good for his age and I admit that he is better than I thought, but I am not ready to anoint him the #1, a HOFer, or an all-star just yet. Can we at least wait until he is playing against real NBA teams before we start chanting "we're not worthy"....
Phish Tank wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Phish Tank wrote:
Swap Mitch for Kornet and you may be more accurate. Mitch will be in the d league for a good chunk of the 1st half of the season.
If Burke and Timmy get 34, I’m guessing Knox and the remaining averages will be lower
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But Mitch right now can do more on defense than Kornet probably ever can. We might really keep him around just for defensive purposes. And who knows what Mitch does with a real PG on oops and such. I know he hasn't played organized ball in the last year, up to summer league anyway, but let's not forget he was the 3rd ranked center coming out of HS.
in summer league. Mitch has more defensive upside, but he's nowhere even close to ready from a fundamental perspective.
The rankings are clearly based on potential.
His lack of fundamentals, strength, and composure at times (leading to silly fouls) are going to glue him to a bench in the NBA. You kinda saw some of that in Summer League when teams put him in P&R or just killed him in the post. Or what happens when you basically play 4v5 on offense because defenders will help off Mitch since he can't really do anything other than score off rebounds and dribble-drive penetration.
He's gonna be much better than Kornet in a year or so, but not immediately.