Kawhi Thread, Numero 4 -- Traded to Raptors for DeRozan, others

Banks2Pierce · Post #1581 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:17 pm

cl2117 wrote:I'm still not afraid of the Raptors in the slightest.

Should be. They just exchanged what was close to a playoff liability into a Finals MVP.

Post #1582 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:18 pm

Kawhi gonna pull a Vince Carter and mail it in so he doesn't get hurt before FA

Moose23 · Post #1583 » by **Moose23** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:18 pm

3D Chess wrote:
Moose23 wrote:Even khawi leaves toronto is better

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No backsies Moose

Never.

I question if they are even top 3 with Kawhi for a season.

I really cannot see kawhi wanting to stay after the year.

I personally put philly and indy above toronto still. And that is with a healthy and motivated kawhi.

If leonard doesnt care about toronto then they have just taken step 1 of a major rebuild and masai going to philly to pick up after bc again.

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jfs1000d · Post #1584 » by **jfs1000d** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:19 pm

Guys, no one got taken. No one won the trade. Spurs got an all-star talent. Raps got a top -5 talent.

I love this trade for both teams. And, the spurs just put themselves above 50 wins again.

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cl2117 · Post #1585 » by **cl2117** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:19 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
cl2117 wrote:I'm still not afraid of the Raptors in the slightest.

Should be. They just exchanged what was close to a playoff liability into a Finals MVP.

Yeah they did and we got:
Hayward
Kyrie
Theis
Williams

And assuming Smart is back we lose:
Larkin

I like our odds.

Post #1586 » by **Parliament10** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:23 pm

Read on Twitter

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24128461/toronto-raptors-agree-deal-acquire-kawhi-leonard-trade-involves-demar-derozan

The San Antonio Spurs have agreed to trade Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green to Toronto for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

Toronto's first-round pick to San Antonio is a protected 1-20 selection. After one year, it becomes two second-round picks.

Scoonie · Post #1587 » by **Scoonie** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:24 pm

Wow, Spurs get at least three years of proven All-Star DeMar DeRozan and a late 1st round pick. Raptors get one year rentals of Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green and then have to rebuild again.

Strange trade. Does Toronto really think they have a chance of resigning Kawhi Leonard next summer?

cl2117 · Post #1588 » by **cl2117** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Parliament10 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Pretty big gamble by Raptors here.

I don't think Toronto would have been on Kawhi's list of teams he'd go to (had he made one). And he clearly wasn't involved in this.

Fingers crossed it's a one year rental and then he goes to the Clips.

Post #1589 » by **Feed Your Head** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Scoonie wrote:Wow, Spurs get at least three years of proven All-Star DeMar DeRozan and a late 1st round pick. Raptors get one year rentals of Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green and then have to rebuild again.

Strange trade. Does Toronto really think they have a chance of resigning Kawhi Leonard next summer?

No but they get out of Demars contract even when Kawhi walks. I still am not too worried about them, but anyone who thinks this isn't a great deal for the Raps is tripping.

PierceFan4ever · Post #1590 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:27 pm

Not worried in the slightest. Maybe if they kept Derozan with Kawhi then sure that’s a strong threat.

Post #1591 » by **Darth Celtic** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:28 pm

So, the Raptors traded a top 20 protected first and Poetl to salary dump DeFrozen. Good trade for them to start a rebuild.

Banks2Pierce · Post #1592 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:29 pm

cl2117 wrote:
I like our odds.

I like our odds as well, but I have gone from 0% fearing the Raptors to assuming they will be the ECF opponent and have a >15% shot at beating us. That's if Kawhi is the real Kawhi, which nobody knows.

DK-All Day · Post #1593 » by **DK-All Day** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Everyone knows Kawhi will be leaving for LA in 2019. It’s a forgone conclusion now.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1594 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Moose23 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:
Moose23 wrote:Even khawi leaves toronto is better

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No backsies Moose
Never.

I question if they are even top 3 with Kawhi for a season.

I really cannot see kawhi wanting to stay after the year.

I personally put philly and indy above toronto still. And that is with a healthy and motivated kawhi.

If leonard doesnt care about toronto then they have just taken step 1 of a major rebuild and masai going to philly to pick up after bc again.

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Nah. Raptors are the 2nd best team easily.

Boston
Toronto

Philly

Post #1595 » by **Parliament10** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:31 pm

cl2117 wrote:
Banks2Pierce wrote:
cl2117 wrote:I'm still not afraid of the Raptors in the slightest.

Should be. They just exchanged what was close to a playoff liability into a Finals MVP.

Yeah they did and we got:
Hayward
Kyrie
Theis
Williams

And assuming Smart is back we lose:
Larkin

I like our odds.

Well. When you put it that way. :nod:

cl2117 · Post #1596 » by **cl2117** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:32 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
I like our odds.

I like our odds as well, but I have gone from 0% fearing the Raptors to assuming they will be the ECF opponent and have a >15% shot at beating us. That's if Kawhi is the real Kawhi, which nobody knows.

I think Philly is more likely to be in the ECF AND would have a better chance at beating us. So I welcome a Raptors/Celtics ECF and those odds.

sam_I_am · Post #1597 » by **sam_I_am** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:33 pm

Toronto - a 59 win team - just dramatically upgraded their roster for 2018-19. Rental or not, that is not great news for Celtics.

It also means that when he joins the Lakers in 2019, they will still have Ingram, Ball, Kuzma and Hart and all their draft picks.

kuclas · Post #1598 » by **kuclas** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:33 pm

Scoonie wrote:Wow, Spurs get at least three years of proven All-Star DeMar DeRozan and a late 1st round pick. Raptors get one year rentals of Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green and then have to rebuild again.

Strange trade. Does Toronto really think they have a chance of resigning Kawhi Leonard next summer?

You have to eventually rebuild at some point. Toronto has been good to very good in regular season the past 4-5 seasons. Just can’t get over the hump in the playoffs.

Boston has to break down their roster in 2013. Aging players, lost in 1st round in 2013 playoffs. lost in conference finals the year before.

Toronto giving it one last shot before they rebuild for 2019-2020 season if things don’t work out for them in 2018-2019 season with Leonard.

Scoonie · Post #1599 » by **Scoonie** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:35 pm

The Comedian wrote:No but they get out of Demars contract even when Kawhi walks.

I know he sucks in the playoffs, but he's a legitimate Top 15 player in the league and worth the $27 million per season he is being paid. Why would they want to get out of his contract? No bigtime free agents will be signing in Toronto anytime soon.

When Kawhi walks after one season and Lowry continues to decline, Raptors will go back to being a lottery team.

celticgreenie · Post #1600 » by **celticgreenie** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:37 pm

Thank God Pop did the league a solid for one year, and didn't trade him to the Lakers. Had to figure that after he complained years ago about Pau Gasol trade to Lakers.