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Post#1201 » by Neeva » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:52 am

IF michael porter jr goes on to a hall of fame career i will be pissed. That first round playoff exit last year would not be worth that lol

Hope Wolves get some
Nice young pieces for Jimmy, unload Dieng and hire an up and coming, not outdated and nice coach.
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Post#1202 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:19 am

Calinks wrote:LOL Everything was sunshine and rainbows when Flip was in charge. Now with Thibs its like all doom and gloom.

When things were Sunshine and Rainbows we missing the playoffs 13 years in a row.
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Post#1203 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:21 am

Neeva wrote:Thibs was just a bad hire, maybe when Lebron gets Walton fired, the wolves can hire him. Walton should have been their pick last time.

Why was he a bad hire? For getting us to the playoffs for the first time in 14 years?
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Post#1204 » by Neeva » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:30 am

Jimmy got the wolves a nice cushion to not miss the playoffs this time
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Neeva wrote:Thibs was just a bad hire, maybe when Lebron gets Walton fired, the wolves can hire him. Walton should have been their pick last time.

Why was he a bad hire? For getting us to the playoffs for the first time in 14 years?
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Post#1205 » by Quentin » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:32 am

Who the hell is happy to sacrifice our entire team to "make the playoffs" for one year. That's just stupid. I want to build a team that makes the playoffs every year and goes somewhere once they get there.

And the dude that gave Thibs credit for getting us to playoffs? Wow. The only thing he did there was trade a bunch of young potential for a 2 year Butler rental. His coaching was a train wreck.
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Post#1206 » by shrink » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:11 pm

Sometimes it feels like the main motivation for some posters isn’t to give honest takes, but to try to see if they can get other posters upset. We need Rubechat to come back, to syphon off posters that are here for that intent.

1. KAT is going to sign his extension. In the entire history of the NBA, no player coming off rookie scale has ever turned down a max extension, because a career-ending injury is too high a risk, without tens of millions of dollars already in the bank. That’s why we only see players get choosey before they sign their second max deal, and at that point they may choose location over more money.

Posters don’t have to magically infer some nefarious reason for the delayed signing other than it is a foregone conclusion.

2. Unless Jimmy Butler had a serious injury, he was never going to sign his extension. Signing now bases his “max” deal on a raise to his previous contract, while waiting to sign a new deal bases that “max” on the new salary cap, that rose dramatically after the 2016 TV deal. Bottom line is that signing an extension could have cost him as much as $60 million dollars.

Posters don’t have to magically infer some nefarious reason for Jimmy turning down the extension.
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Post#1207 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:42 pm

Some of the recent comments from KAT are quite distressing, he almost 100% will sign a MAX extention, but dollars to donughts he will be biding his time to make some kind of play to get out of here. If things have gotten so bad that his discontentment has gone public and not stayed behind the scenes, being able to repair this relationship is not likely. I don't think he wants to be here. I don't think he ever will want to be here.

Once we f'd things up this bad the best thing long-term is to trade Butler first. Second decide if to fire Thibs. If so, then I can see risking it, but it is kind of stupid (Towns' value won't really go up). If you do not fire Thibs then also trade Towns. Take that haul of young players and picks and build. Third showcase Wiggins and trade him when he has repaired his value to a point you can live with.

People act like it is the end of the world to do that. To move on from your mistakes and not compound them. I don't get it. Long-term this could yield a better team and we can control our fate.

Frankly, this team is no lock to make the playoffs this year. Many teams have gotten better and it would be foolish to not recognize the possibility of the team's dynamics hindering our play.
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Post#1208 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:16 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:Some of the recent comments from KAT are quite distressing, What comments? he almost 100% will sign a MAX extention, but dollars to donughts he will be biding his time to make some kind of play to get out of here. If things have gotten so bad that his discontent have gone public What's gone public? and not stayed behind the scenes, being able to repair this relationship is not likely. I don't think he wants to be here. You know this how? I don't think he ever will want to be here. Again, did he ever sound like he didn't want to be here?

Once we f'd things up this bad the best thing long-term is to trade Butler first. Second decide if to fire Thibs. If so, then I can see risking it, but it is kind of stupid (Towns' value won't really go up). If you do not fire Thibs then also trade Towns. Take that haul of young players and picks and build. Another rebuild? Aren't you tired of that? Third showcase Wiggins and trade him when he has repaired his value to a point you can live with. If he has repaired his value, then we should keep him.

People act like it is the end of the world to do that. To move on from your mistakes and not compound them. I don't get it. Long-term this could yield a better team and we can control our fate. Been saying that for how many years now? 14?

Frankly, this team is no lock to make the playoffs this year. Many teams have gotten better and it would be foolish to not recognize the possibility of the team's dynamics hindering our play.

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I think Butler is the problem. He's become a Diva. This same thing happened in Chicago, and it seems to be happening here. Maybe there is something to being kicked out of the house by your mother. There. I said it.
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Post#1209 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:21 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:Some of the recent comments from KAT are quite distressing, What comments? he almost 100% will sign a MAX extention, but dollars to donughts he will be biding his time to make some kind of play to get out of here. If things have gotten so bad that his discontent have gone public What's gone public? and not stayed behind the scenes, being able to repair this relationship is not likely. I don't think he wants to be here. You know this how? I don't think he ever will want to be here. Again, did he ever sound like he didn't want to be here?

Once we f'd things up this bad the best thing long-term is to trade Butler first. Second decide if to fire Thibs. If so, then I can see risking it, but it is kind of stupid (Towns' value won't really go up). If you do not fire Thibs then also trade Towns. Take that haul of young players and picks and build. Another rebuild? Aren't you tired of that? Third showcase Wiggins and trade him when he has repaired his value to a point you can live with. If he has repaired his value, then we should keep him.

People act like it is the end of the world to do that. To move on from your mistakes and not compound them. I don't get it. Long-term this could yield a better team and we can control our fate. Been saying that for how many years now? 14?

Frankly, this team is no lock to make the playoffs this year. Many teams have gotten better and it would be foolish to not recognize the possibility of the team's dynamics hindering our play.

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I think Butler is the problem. He's become a Diva. This same thing happened in Chicago, and it seems to be happening here. Maybe there is something to being kicked out of the house by your mother. There. I said it.
Really? You must have not seen Johnny K's tweet.

He asked Kat if he views MN as a second home and KAT said something like "I have a lot of stuff to talk about, so I will move on".

Additionally, I have lived life, no I don't think it can be repaired. And I don't have a problem rebuilding/building if it gives us a better chance to win a championship.
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Post#1210 » by shrink » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:26 pm

“I have a lot of stuff to talk about” does not equal “I hate MIN!”

He’s at a charity clinic, coaching kids, and that’s where he wants the media’s focus.
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Post#1211 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:33 pm

shrink wrote:“I have a lot of stuff to talk about” does not equal “I hate MIN!”

He’s at a charity clinic, coaching kids, and that’s where he wants the media’s focus.
It was intentional, nothing would have prevented him from saying a positive thing about MN after all it was a community event in MN! I think you are in denial. This was a very bad sign and it had nothing to do with taking away from the event. I think it takes some real mental gymnastics to even come up with that in the context of the question, i.e. It wasn't a question about him signing a contract extension, it was a question if he likes it in MN.
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Post#1212 » by shrink » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:45 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
shrink wrote:“I have a lot of stuff to talk about” does not equal “I hate MIN!”

He’s at a charity clinic, coaching kids, and that’s where he wants the media’s focus.
It was intentional, nothing would have prevented him from saying a positive thing about MN after all it was a community event in MN! I think you are in denial. This was a very bad sign and it had nothing to do with taking away from the event. I think it takes some real mental gymnastics to even come up with that in the context of the question, i.e. It wasn't a question about him signing a contract extension, it was a question if he likes it in MN.

That was clearly implied by the question. Do you dislike the city you are working in?

And is that a question that should be focused on at a charity event? The “stuff I would want to talk about” would be the charity, not myself.
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Post#1213 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:49 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:Some of the recent comments from KAT are quite distressing, What comments? he almost 100% will sign a MAX extention, but dollars to donughts he will be biding his time to make some kind of play to get out of here. If things have gotten so bad that his discontent have gone public What's gone public? and not stayed behind the scenes, being able to repair this relationship is not likely. I don't think he wants to be here. You know this how? I don't think he ever will want to be here. Again, did he ever sound like he didn't want to be here?

Once we f'd things up this bad the best thing long-term is to trade Butler first. Second decide if to fire Thibs. If so, then I can see risking it, but it is kind of stupid (Towns' value won't really go up). If you do not fire Thibs then also trade Towns. Take that haul of young players and picks and build. Another rebuild? Aren't you tired of that? Third showcase Wiggins and trade him when he has repaired his value to a point you can live with. If he has repaired his value, then we should keep him.

People act like it is the end of the world to do that. To move on from your mistakes and not compound them. I don't get it. Long-term this could yield a better team and we can control our fate. Been saying that for how many years now? 14?

Frankly, this team is no lock to make the playoffs this year. Many teams have gotten better and it would be foolish to not recognize the possibility of the team's dynamics hindering our play.

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I think Butler is the problem. He's become a Diva. This same thing happened in Chicago, and it seems to be happening here. Maybe there is something to being kicked out of the house by your mother. There. I said it.
Really? You must have not seen Johnny K's tweet.

He asked Kat if he views MN as a second home and KAT said something like "I have a lot of stuff to talk about, so I will move on".

Additionally, I have lived life, no I don't think it can be repaired. And I don't have a problem rebuilding/building if it gives us a better chance to win a championship.

Who the hell is Johnny K? And the "second home" question, was that reporters sneaky way of trying to see if he plans to stay here a while, and KAT caught it and shut him down.
I have lived life too, and know most things CAN be repaired. (If they were even damaged at all.)

I tried to wait for the rebuild since KG left, do you think getting rid of all of our talent so we can rebuild will get us to the championship? Again, haven't we been doing that for 14 years?

Point is, until KAT comes out ad say he's NOT going to sign here and he DEMANDS a trade, then lets stay away from speculation and click bait.
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Post#1214 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:50 pm

shrink wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
shrink wrote:“I have a lot of stuff to talk about” does not equal “I hate MIN!”

He’s at a charity clinic, coaching kids, and that’s where he wants the media’s focus.
It was intentional, nothing would have prevented him from saying a positive thing about MN after all it was a community event in MN! I think you are in denial. This was a very bad sign and it had nothing to do with taking away from the event. I think it takes some real mental gymnastics to even come up with that in the context of the question, i.e. It wasn't a question about him signing a contract extension, it was a question if he likes it in MN.

That was clearly implied by the question. Do you dislike the city you are working in?

And is that a question that should be focused on at a charity event? The “stuff I would want to talk about” would be the charity, not myself.
The question was framed in a way that made it about the state and the community he was serving, it was not framed in a way that made it about him that would take attention away from the event. The only way a person doesn't answer the question is to intentionally make a statement. Stop with the excuses, the situation is not good.

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Post#1215 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:53 pm

SO_MONEY wrote: I don't think he wants to be here. I don't think he ever will want to be here.



This is YOUR thoughts right?
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Post#1216 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:55 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
shrink wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:It was intentional, nothing would have prevented him from saying a positive thing about MN after all it was a community event in MN! I think you are in denial. This was a very bad sign and it had nothing to do with taking away from the event. I think it takes some real mental gymnastics to even come up with that in the context of the question, i.e. It wasn't a question about him signing a contract extension, it was a question if he likes it in MN.

That was clearly implied by the question. Do you dislike the city you are working in?

And is that a question that should be focused on at a charity event? The “stuff I would want to talk about” would be the charity, not myself.
The question was framed in a way that made it about the state and the community he was serving, it was not framed in a way that made it about him that would take attention away from the event. The only way a person doesn't answer the question is to intentionally make a statement. Stop with the excuses, the situation is not good.

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Geez man. You got all that from one question? I guess we will see, because you obviously know.
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Post#1217 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:57 pm

Quentin wrote:Who the hell is happy to sacrifice our entire team to "make the playoffs" for one year. That's just stupid. I want to build a team that makes the playoffs every year and goes somewhere once they get there.

And the dude that gave Thibs credit for getting us to playoffs? Wow. The only thing he did there was trade a bunch of young potential for a 2 year Butler rental. His coaching was a train wreck.

Thibs traded squat for a top ten player in the league. Neither Dunn or LaVine lit the world on fire. Markannen has a decent chance of being decent. When the trade was made odds looked very good about being able to retain Butler for his final contract. I think chances of that are still good. The thing that changed regarding Butler's desire is he found out that KAT while talking a good game doesn't get how to play defense or put in appropriate effort on that end.
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Post#1218 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:59 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
I think Butler is the problem. He's become a Diva. This same thing happened in Chicago, and it seems to be happening here. Maybe there is something to being kicked out of the house by your mother. There. I said it.
Really? You must have not seen Johnny K's tweet.

He asked Kat if he views MN as a second home and KAT said something like "I have a lot of stuff to talk about, so I will move on".

Additionally, I have lived life, no I don't think it can be repaired. And I don't have a problem rebuilding/building if it gives us a better chance to win a championship.

Who the hell is Johnny K? And the "second home" question, was that reporters sneaky way of trying to if he plans to stay here a while, and KAT caught it and shut him down.
I have lived life too, and know most things CAN be repaired. (If they were even damaged at all.)

I tried to wait for the rebuild since KG left, do you think getting rid of all of our talent so we can rebuild will get us to the championship? Again, haven't we been doing that for 14 years?

Point is, until KAT comes out ad say he's NOT going to sign here and he DEMANDS a trade, then lets stay away from speculation and click bait.


Honestly, lol.

If things are bad most things cannot be repaired. Most things can be repaired if they are not bad. Things look bad. When you won't answer a question about loving it in MN at a volunteer event in MN, even if you really don't believe it, things are bad.


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Post#1219 » by shrink » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:02 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
shrink wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:It was intentional, nothing would have prevented him from saying a positive thing about MN after all it was a community event in MN! I think you are in denial. This was a very bad sign and it had nothing to do with taking away from the event. I think it takes some real mental gymnastics to even come up with that in the context of the question, i.e. It wasn't a question about him signing a contract extension, it was a question if he likes it in MN.

That was clearly implied by the question. Do you dislike the city you are working in?

And is that a question that should be focused on at a charity event? The “stuff I would want to talk about” would be the charity, not myself.
The question was framed in a way that made it about the state and the community he was serving, it was not framed in a way that made it about him that would take attention away from the event. The only way a person doesn't answer the question is to intentionally make a statement. Stop with the excuses, the situation is not good.

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Ok, I can see how you might see it this way, but let me give you a little background information.

I don’t like talking about myself online, but let me say that in the past, I have worked with the media at dozens of charity events, and have been interviewed regularly. While America stresses the “freedom of the press,” before any interview, both sides talk with each other about how we want interviews to go, we go over a little script of questions, and at a minimum, we set guidelines for the types of questions that will be asked. You can tell by the way Krazinski asked the question, he was trying to hedge the guidelines (if you like “home,” that’s where your job is), but still get a story that was completely devoid of talking about the charity.

I am not nearly as popular as KAT, but I have been in his situation twice. I think both were accidental by inexperienced media, but this question does not look the same. Both times, the important thing when you represent the charity is to not get mad, and try to steer the conversation back to the charity. You don’t answer one question like that, because you may get more and more follow ups. I can see how someone can imply KAT’s sentence was about him, but I might have said something exactly the same, and meant that I wanted to talk about the charity.

I would put more stock in this quote if he wasn’t at the charity, and he was doing an interview about himself and his contract.
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Post#1220 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:30 pm

shrink wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
shrink wrote:That was clearly implied by the question. Do you dislike the city you are working in?

And is that a question that should be focused on at a charity event? The “stuff I would want to talk about” would be the charity, not myself.
The question was framed in a way that made it about the state and the community he was serving, it was not framed in a way that made it about him that would take attention away from the event. The only way a person doesn't answer the question is to intentionally make a statement. Stop with the excuses, the situation is not good.

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Ok, I can see how you might see it this way, but let me give you a little background information.

I don’t like talking about myself online, but let me say that in the past, I have worked with the media at dozens of charity events, and have been interviewed regularly. While America stresses the “freedom of the press,” before any interview, both sides talk with each other about how we want interviews to go, we go over a little script of questions, and at a minimum, we set guidelines for the types of questions that will be asked. You can tell by the way Krazinski asked the question, he was trying to hedge the guidelines (if you like “home,” that’s where your job is), but still get a story that was completely devoid of talking about the charity.

I am not nearly as popular as KAT, but I have been in his situation twice. I think both were accidental by inexperienced media, but this question does not look the same. Both times, the important thing when you represent the charity is to not get mad, and try to steer the conversation back to the charity. You don’t answer one question like that, because you may get more and more follow ups. I can see how someone can imply KAT’s sentence was about him, but I might have said something exactly the same, and meant that I wanted to talk about the charity.

I would put more stock in this quote if he wasn’t at the charity, and he was doing an interview about himself and his contract.
You can hold back some stock. We both share experence in regaurds to giving media interviews at charity events. How KAT handled it is not how I would have. I would have brought the question back to the charity. Example: The state of Minnesota is great, I just love the people, speaking of the great people of MN (insert cause)... If I am wrong at best it was poorly handled by KAT. I think it was intentional, that is my opinion and we shall see.

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