Future Draft Games

[migya]

We usually play 8 players total in a game, so drafting a player in every 2 year window and 8 players each leads to 16 years total. 2002-2018?

Nothing wrong with forming teams with ten players since there are five positions. Starting sag 1980 or 1990 allows for players who have had full careers to be picked and a fuller comparison to be capable.

I think a couple advantages of going 8 man rotation

- Drafting an extra 2 bench rounds makes the end of the draft slower, which causes people to get bored and lose interest
- 9th and 10th rounds would most likely be full of low FGA scrubs who aren't going to impact the result very much. There isn't really much value in spending FGAs on guys who will be getting a minimum amount of minutes, so people would rather save them for the better players.

If every starter plays 38 minutes, it leads to 50 minutes to divide between the bench. With 3 bench players this is pretty reasonable. Sometimes the 6th man may be playing 25-30+ and then the others split the rest. Also it's realistic to real life since a lot of playoff rotations play 8 guys or less.

Good points, agreed.

[Laimbeer]

I think Fadeaway's Scavenger game would be a good idea, but other than that two games I was considering on tap were the 3 Degrees of One on One game and Batman and Robin redux, there was support for both a while back

I don't think I'll be taking on running another game so soon so you can go ahead after the latest one wraps up.

From a selfish perspective I'd lean against the One on One idea (don't think I'd have the time), but what type of spin were you planning to put on the Batman and Robin game?

Probably post merger

I'm a bit iffy on the one on one game as well, but it did win two separate polls if I remember correctly, so I guess it should be played at some point

How about doing a Batman and Robin (I assume this means three tiers?) but defining the tiers by FGAs? Your supporting cast would have to be your five lowest FGA players, your Robins second and third most, and your Batman the highest?

Similarly we could have an Upside Down where your first pick had to be your lowest FGA player, and on up.

[Fadeaway_J]

I don't think I'll be taking on running another game so soon so you can go ahead after the latest one wraps up.

From a selfish perspective I'd lean against the One on One idea (don't think I'd have the time), but what type of spin were you planning to put on the Batman and Robin game?

Probably post merger

I'm a bit iffy on the one on one game as well, but it did win two separate polls if I remember correctly, so I guess it should be played at some point

How about doing a Batman and Robin (I assume this means three tiers?) but defining the tiers by FGAs? Your supporting cast would have to be your five lowest FGA players, your Robins second and third most, and your Batman the highest?

Similarly we could have an Upside Down where your first pick had to be your lowest FGA player, and on up.

Interesting twist. Would force you to be even more strategic with your first two tiers.

[Dr Positivity]

Yea I think that could work

[Laimbeer]

Probably post merger

I'm a bit iffy on the one on one game as well, but it did win two separate polls if I remember correctly, so I guess it should be played at some point

How about doing a Batman and Robin (I assume this means three tiers?) but defining the tiers by FGAs? Your supporting cast would have to be your five lowest FGA players, your Robins second and third most, and your Batman the highest?

Similarly we could have an Upside Down where your first pick had to be your lowest FGA player, and on up.

Interesting twist. Would force you to be even more strategic with your first two tiers.

I'd be a little concerned about the supporting cast tier possibly being too strong, at least in some cases. You could get a fistful of Magic or Draymond type guys early on.

[Fadeaway_J]

Also we should maybe have a poll to decide the next game (which we haven't done in a while). Right now we've got two signup threads that don't seem to be going anywhere fast.

[Dr Positivity]

How about doing a Batman and Robin (I assume this means three tiers?) but defining the tiers by FGAs? Your supporting cast would have to be your five lowest FGA players, your Robins second and third most, and your Batman the highest?

Similarly we could have an Upside Down where your first pick had to be your lowest FGA player, and on up.

Interesting twist. Would force you to be even more strategic with your first two tiers.

I'd be a little concerned about the supporting cast tier possibly being too strong, at least in some cases. You could get a fistful of Magic or Draymond type guys early on.

Good point

I think I like revisiting the traditional Batman and Robin game, while the reverse FGA Upside Down is an option for later. Or a game where you're required to draft 1 MVP, 2 Robin, 5 Supporting Cast but in that order, and the MVP has to be the highest FGA, Robins second highest, etc. This would reduce the Magic factor

[euroleague]

Also we should maybe have a poll to decide the next game (which we haven't done in a while). Right now we've got two signup threads that don't seem to be going anywhere fast.

let’s wait until we finish this game and see if people sign up. Recently, games have filled only after people finish playing

Migya posting the thread and not going anywhere is kind of expected, as he’s only played one game and probably isn’t ready to host.

[Fadeaway_J]

Interesting twist. Would force you to be even more strategic with your first two tiers.

I'd be a little concerned about the supporting cast tier possibly being too strong, at least in some cases. You could get a fistful of Magic or Draymond type guys early on.

Good point

I think I like revisiting the traditional Batman and Robin game, while the reverse FGA Upside Down is an option for later. Or a game where you're required to draft 1 MVP, 2 Robin, 5 Supporting Cast but in that order, and the MVP has to be the highest FGA, Robins second highest, etc. This would reduce the Magic factor

I like it. You can take Magic if you want, but you either have to pony up for his peak season (1986-87) or your Robin options are severely limited (and they're already reduced somewhat). Normally you don't have to do that kind of calculus with Magic.

The other benefit of going in order is that everyone can properly plan out their FGA usage which would be a bit of a headache otherwise.

[Fadeaway_J]

Also we should maybe have a poll to decide the next game (which we haven't done in a while). Right now we've got two signup threads that don't seem to be going anywhere fast.

let’s wait until we finish this game and see if people sign up. Recently, games have filled only after people finish playing

Migya posting the thread and not going anywhere is kind of expected, as he’s only played one game and probably isn’t ready to host.

I don't have a problem with him hosting, and being new I don't necessarily expect him to know that we're trying to avoid running multiple games at once.

The general point is though, we've reached the stage now where we often struggle to get as many as 12 participants for a game. With that in mind, we should probably try and get as much feedback as possible on new ideas before creating a signup thread, or it could end up just dying on the vine (which has happened before). Doing a quick poll at least gives some idea of whether a game will attract interest or not.

[euroleague]

Also we should maybe have a poll to decide the next game (which we haven't done in a while). Right now we've got two signup threads that don't seem to be going anywhere fast.

let’s wait until we finish this game and see if people sign up. Recently, games have filled only after people finish playing

Migya posting the thread and not going anywhere is kind of expected, as he’s only played one game and probably isn’t ready to host.

I don't have a problem with him hosting, and being new I don't necessarily expect him to know that we're trying to avoid running multiple games at once.

The general point is though, we've reached the stage now where we often struggle to get as many as 12 participants for a game. With that in mind, we should probably try and get as much feedback as possible on new ideas before creating a signup thread, or it could end up just dying on the vine (which has happened before). Doing a quick poll at least gives some idea of whether a game will attract interest or not.

Generally, the people who vote in the poll sign up regardless of the game, as long as the set-up is unique/valid and the game looks like it will start.

Some of the game formats recently have been quite boring - no new strategies or adaptations required. They have filled up quite quickly.

The main problems have been lack of agreement on voting and repetitiveness, causing stagnation in these. I personally enjoy 1 hour drafts and 1v1 drafts, but it’s too difficult to host them.

[Laimbeer]

I'd be a little concerned about the supporting cast tier possibly being too strong, at least in some cases. You could get a fistful of Magic or Draymond type guys early on.

Good point

I think I like revisiting the traditional Batman and Robin game, while the reverse FGA Upside Down is an option for later. Or a game where you're required to draft 1 MVP, 2 Robin, 5 Supporting Cast but in that order, and the MVP has to be the highest FGA, Robins second highest, etc. This would reduce the Magic factor

I like it. You can take Magic if you want, but you either have to pony up for his peak season (1986-87) or your Robin options are severely limited (and they're already reduced somewhat). Normally you don't have to do that kind of calculus with Magic.

The other benefit of going in order is that everyone can properly plan out their FGA usage which would be a bit of a headache otherwise.

I like it, too. If the other signups fizzle out I'd be in.

[migya]

Also we should maybe have a poll to decide the next game (which we haven't done in a while). Right now we've got two signup threads that don't seem to be going anywhere fast.

let’s wait until we finish this game and see if people sign up. Recently, games have filled only after people finish playing

Migya posting the thread and not going anywhere is kind of expected, as he’s only played one game and probably isn’t ready to host.

I don't have a problem with him hosting, and being new I don't necessarily expect him to know that we're trying to avoid running multiple games at once.

The general point is though, we've reached the stage now where we often struggle to get as many as 12 participants for a game. With that in mind, we should probably try and get as much feedback as possible on new ideas before creating a signup thread, or it could end up just dying on the vine (which has happened before). Doing a quick poll at least gives some idea of whether a game will attract interest or not.

I've played these kinds of drafts before on other forum so it's nothing new. I started my draft thread because this one was getting no signups and the other one we're in was ending. I'm happy not doing mine, unless others want to play it. Maybe after this one is done.

[8on]

Black players only, 70s to now. West, Havlicek, Walton, Bird, McHale, Stockton, Price, the Barrys, Mullin, Manu, Nash, Peja, Petrovic, Majerle, Detlef, Dirk, Love and more are gone. Could be interesting without all of those shooters

I would run it if it received enough interest.

[8on]

Not a good idea?

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

Good point

I think I like revisiting the traditional Batman and Robin game, while the reverse FGA Upside Down is an option for later. Or a game where you're required to draft 1 MVP, 2 Robin, 5 Supporting Cast but in that order, and the MVP has to be the highest FGA, Robins second highest, etc. This would reduce the Magic factor

I like it. You can take Magic if you want, but you either have to pony up for his peak season (1986-87) or your Robin options are severely limited (and they're already reduced somewhat). Normally you don't have to do that kind of calculus with Magic.

The other benefit of going in order is that everyone can properly plan out their FGA usage which would be a bit of a headache otherwise.

I like it, too. If the other signups fizzle out I'd be in.

Hey guys, it's the return of CSF! Any of you guys wants to run this next? I can run it if nobody else wants too. This idea intrigued me the most right now. I'll probably start this soon as the other draft is nearly over.

I might make a poll too to see where everyone's head at.

First post has been updated with the most recent ideas!

[Laimbeer]

I like it. You can take Magic if you want, but you either have to pony up for his peak season (1986-87) or your Robin options are severely limited (and they're already reduced somewhat). Normally you don't have to do that kind of calculus with Magic.

The other benefit of going in order is that everyone can properly plan out their FGA usage which would be a bit of a headache otherwise.

I like it, too. If the other signups fizzle out I'd be in.

Hey guys, it's the return of CSF! Any of you guys wants to run this next? I can run it if nobody else wants too. This idea intrigued me the most right now. I'll probably start this soon as the other draft is nearly over.

I might make a poll too to see where everyone's head at.

First post has been updated with the most recent ideas!

To be clear, your Robins have two restrictions - they must have lower FGAs than your Batman AND be non-MVPs?

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

I like it, too. If the other signups fizzle out I'd be in.

Hey guys, it's the return of CSF! Any of you guys wants to run this next? I can run it if nobody else wants too. This idea intrigued me the most right now. I'll probably start this soon as the other draft is nearly over.

I might make a poll too to see where everyone's head at.

First post has been updated with the most recent ideas!

To be clear, your Robins have two restrictions - they must have lower FGAs than your Batman AND be non-MVPs?

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

[Laimbeer]

Hey guys, it's the return of CSF! Any of you guys wants to run this next? I can run it if nobody else wants too. This idea intrigued me the most right now. I'll probably start this soon as the other draft is nearly over.

I might make a poll too to see where everyone's head at.

First post has been updated with the most recent ideas!

To be clear, your Robins have two restrictions - they must have lower FGAs than your Batman AND be non-MVPs?

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

Do we have to do them in order? I thought having a choice made for more strategy. That would be particularly true here.

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

To be clear, your Robins have two restrictions - they must have lower FGAs than your Batman AND be non-MVPs?

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

Do we have to do them in order? I thought having a choice made for more strategy. That would be particularly true here.

Agree-definitely makes it more intriguing, but the only thing is that it might make the FGA calculations a little tricky especially if you go for your MVP the last round? I haven't settled on anything yet so I'm all ears.