DarthDiggler69 wrote:I bet eventually when Lebron gets frustrated with the kids he will have Deng play with him
It'll take 3-4 blown ACLs or Achilles for this guy to make it on the floor.
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DarthDiggler69 wrote:I bet eventually when Lebron gets frustrated with the kids he will have Deng play with him
ChokeFasncists wrote:12footrim wrote:He has all the power to void his contract and go sign with another team if he doesn't like wasting what time he has left in the NBA. I'm sure the Lakers wouldn't stop him much like the Knicks wouldn't stop Noah. I'm tired of hearing these guys talk about not playing when the solution is in their hands, otherwise just collect your massive checks. They are honoring those contracts so they least you can do is honor your end of the bargain and not stir the pot and do as they wish.
No chance he voids his contract, it's negotiation, buyout, meet in the middle kinda thing.
But since they're not rebuilding/playing youth anymore, he should be able to get pt if he can still play.
Next year he'll be expiring and the Lakers should be able to trade him.
He played great before the contract, I don't believe he's that bad now.
If LBJ plays the four then it's a problem, otherwise, he should be good as a 3&D four.
dan-man wrote:Dan Z wrote:12footrim wrote:
It comes with the territory IMO. If you sign massive contracts like this and stink you aren't going to be tradable and the GM that gave it to you and was invested in you is probably going to lose his job. This certainly isn't the first time this has ever happened so you know what you are getting yourself into. He has no excuse to be annoyed.
He has every reason to be annoyed. He's a 10 year veteran and a former all-star. Yes he's not the player that he once was, and he played poorly his first year with the Lakers, but he's healthy and wants to play.
As you said above this has happened before. In most cases those players were disruptive to their team. Deng is not. He's been professional and is only speaking out about this now (the offseason). Sure he might continue to sit on the bench (the Lakers aren't obligated to play him) but he has every right to vent. Even his comments above aren't that bad when you consider the situation he's in.
he can EASILY negotiate a buy-out or shortened deal to go play elsewhere. Speaking publicly while under contract for two more years at that high of a number is a low life move.
Dan Z wrote:dan-man wrote:Dan Z wrote:
He has every reason to be annoyed. He's a 10 year veteran and a former all-star. Yes he's not the player that he once was, and he played poorly his first year with the Lakers, but he's healthy and wants to play.
As you said above this has happened before. In most cases those players were disruptive to their team. Deng is not. He's been professional and is only speaking out about this now (the offseason). Sure he might continue to sit on the bench (the Lakers aren't obligated to play him) but he has every right to vent. Even his comments above aren't that bad when you consider the situation he's in.
he can EASILY negotiate a buy-out or shortened deal to go play elsewhere. Speaking publicly while under contract for two more years at that high of a number is a low life move.
It's rare that a player who has more than one year left on their contract is bought out. It's also possible that both sides have talked about it and it didn't go anywhere. Why would Deng give up any money? Or at least a large amount of it? The Lakers are the team that gave him that contract.
He hasn't said much this entire time and is now talking in the offseason. That's not very disruptive. How many times has a player been unhappy and then turned into a locker room cancer? It's happened many times. Deng was not a distraction this past season.
dan-man wrote:ChokeFasncists wrote:12footrim wrote:He has all the power to void his contract and go sign with another team if he doesn't like wasting what time he has left in the NBA. I'm sure the Lakers wouldn't stop him much like the Knicks wouldn't stop Noah. I'm tired of hearing these guys talk about not playing when the solution is in their hands, otherwise just collect your massive checks. They are honoring those contracts so they least you can do is honor your end of the bargain and not stir the pot and do as they wish.
No chance he voids his contract, it's negotiation, buyout, meet in the middle kinda thing.
But since they're not rebuilding/playing youth anymore, he should be able to get pt if he can still play.
Next year he'll be expiring and the Lakers should be able to trade him.
He played great before the contract, I don't believe he's that bad now.
If LBJ plays the four then it's a problem, otherwise, he should be good as a 3&D four.
The Lakers needed to fire Fredo Buss & Mitch a year earlier. So many costly moves that set the organization back several years. Once Deng is off the books they will be free of that filthy management & their toxic contracts.
Thanks for the honesty.MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
ChokeFasncists wrote:dan-man wrote:ChokeFasncists wrote:No chance he voids his contract, it's negotiation, buyout, meet in the middle kinda thing.
But since they're not rebuilding/playing youth anymore, he should be able to get pt if he can still play.
Next year he'll be expiring and the Lakers should be able to trade him.
He played great before the contract, I don't believe he's that bad now.
If LBJ plays the four then it's a problem, otherwise, he should be good as a 3&D four.
The Lakers needed to fire Fredo Buss & Mitch a year earlier. So many costly moves that set the organization back several years. Once Deng is off the books they will be free of that filthy management & their toxic contracts.
Pretty crazy time. Ingram was pretty much a no-brainer pick. Anything else panned out?
MaxwellSmart wrote:I hate to say this, but Go Lakers....
Mark Jackson wrote:Playoff preparation is overrated... I’m going to get my rest. I’m not going to grow old and be stressed out and get gray hair.
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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:I'm a bit confused...why wouldn't the lakers buy him out if they had no intention of playing him? And why wouldn't he accept a slight depreciation in his contract in order to be bought out if that's important to him. I couldn't see either party getting in the way of another here...
dan-man wrote:Dan Z wrote:dan-man wrote:
he can EASILY negotiate a buy-out or shortened deal to go play elsewhere. Speaking publicly while under contract for two more years at that high of a number is a low life move.
It's rare that a player who has more than one year left on their contract is bought out. It's also possible that both sides have talked about it and it didn't go anywhere. Why would Deng give up any money? Or at least a large amount of it? The Lakers are the team that gave him that contract.
He hasn't said much this entire time and is now talking in the offseason. That's not very disruptive. How many times has a player been unhappy and then turned into a locker room cancer? It's happened many times. Deng was not a distraction this past season.
I'm not saying Deng should give up any money. But if he won't give up any, he can't bitch about not playing... That's his call. He's gotta decide if he wants keep getting paid to ride the pine w/only so much career remaining for him. I think he needs to patiently wait out this season and assume he'll get delt and released in 2019 the same way melo did a few weeks ago. The Lakers probably won't stretch or eat the contract in a transition year so Deng better get comfy and shut his hole. He should send a gift basket to that idiot, Jim Buss as well for giving him all that free money and enjoy his free ride.
deeps6x wrote:Makes me wonder who says NO to Deng+Kuzma for Ibaka.
Would the Lakers want to get out of his salary for the next two years to be willing to give up a promising kid in Kuzma? I didn't follow the Lakers much last season but I remember a few good games out of Kuzma.
Stat-wise, Randle looked much better, and Ibaka had a better RPM than both of them. But the promise/potential of youth can be strong...
Are the Lakers in Win Now mode this season? Do they need to shed salary to add another star next season? Do the Raptors even want to give up Ibaka when they look like a strong contender for the ECF this season? If they can't re-sign Leonard next summer, I'm sure they'd love to have Kuzma going forward instead of a late 20s Ibaka.
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luss54321 wrote:It's really disgraceful the way the Lakers have treated Luol Deng. He's a very solid player and a stand up guy. Shame on that organization. Players around the league pay attention when an organization treats a player like crap.
It's no wonder LA can NEVER sign marquee free agents despite being one of the biggest markets in the league. Aside from Lebron who was the last big time free agent LA signed? I can't think of a single one.
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team