Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player?

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Devin Booker is a Franchise Player.

Poll ended at Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:12 am

Hell yes
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14%
Mmm, yes
58
20%
Mmm, no
130
46%
Hell no
56
20%
 
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#21 » by jefe » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:44 am

I voted mmmm, no. From a Grizzlies fan perspective, that contract feels alot like the one we gave Rudy Gay a long time ago.
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Post#22 » by Sulico » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:22 pm

Hellll no. Franchise player who sports negative advanced stats? Even if you take bad franchise players like Carmelo, Iverson, McGrady or his cousin, they all have been positive on the floor. As we move further in the depths of the worst franchise players ever, we still find that Gilbert Arenas or Michael Redd never had terrible stats like this. Stephon Marbury is probably the best comparison to Booker in terms of a franchise player value and as Marbury, Booker have all the tools to become Beijing Ducks star in near future.
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#23 » by Trippinskarlo » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:32 pm

koningcosmo wrote:i went for hmmm no, because im not convinced yet. He got alot of hype for his 70pt game but hasnt really progressed since.

In his defense it's pretty hard to progress from dropping 70 lol
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#24 » by DraftDoctor » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:44 pm

Booker is so young. Sometimes we forget if he was growing up in the 90's he'd still be in school, guys were Rookies at 22. Players like Iverson and Ray Allen didn't hit their strides until 23-24.
He wasn't a horrendous defender at Kentucky, played pretty well in team concepts ala JJ Redick, Kyle Koorver...with a bit more lateral quickness and potential. I think by 25-28 he won't be considered a stopper, but won't be a liability either.

I think his potential is a Allan Houston 3.0/Reggie Miller with a little bit more play making ability...Could be the man on a 45-55 win team but ultimately terrific 2nd/3rd option on a Championship roster.

He's not a knuckle head, by all accounts a well grounded kid, came up with solid parental guidance...for those who think this doesn't matter I know of a San Antonio Spurs scout and Patriots & Steelers scouts who are VERY weary of drafting players from single mother households. His Father held him to very high standards growing up, strikes me as a player who will look to improve upon something every summer like Kobe, Dirk did.
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Post#25 » by lilswift01 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:57 pm

For some reason he can't will his team to extra wins. You guys want to compare him to harden but harden led his team to the playoffs his first year in houston.

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Post#26 » by KHRICH » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:59 pm

Yes just surround him with great defenders.
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Post#27 » by John Murdoch » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:05 pm

If you thought Ray Allen was a franchise player than sure
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Post#28 » by Hesh » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:17 pm

lilswift01 wrote:For some reason he can't will his team to extra wins. You guys want to compare him to harden but harden led his team to the playoffs his first year in houston.

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Simply put, he might not be as good as harden, or is a different player from harden, or could do it in his 4th season since that's the season you're referring to where harden led his team to the playoffs
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Post#29 » by jg77 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:19 pm

Most definitely. He's not even 22 yet.
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Post#30 » by gaspar » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:34 pm

BobThunder wrote:
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Raps2018Champs wrote:Nope. He doesn’t play defense.

Kobe, Lebron, TMac, etc. at Booker’s age were all plus defenders.

Don't think it's necessary for a player to play good defense to be considered as a franchise player.

Harden plays no defense.

Devin Booker shows no signs of providing the offensive lift that a guy like Harden gives you. Not really fair to compare the two.

21 years old Booker vs 21 years old Harden per 36 minutes:

Booker 26.0 pts, 4.9 ast, 4.7 reb, .432 FG%, .383 3P%, .878 FT%
Harden 16.4 pts, 2.9 ast, 4.2 reb, .436 FG%, .349 3P%, .843 FT%

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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#31 » by Maf » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:45 pm

Is he a Bad franchise player? Sure.
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#32 » by vaff87 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:07 pm

As of now? Hell no. Will he be one in the future? Who knows.
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Post#33 » by TheBoi10 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:10 pm

No he's one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

Average efficiency volume scoring (no real value), doesn't make teammates better, one of the worst defenders in the NBA.
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Post#34 » by Winsome Gerbil » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:13 pm

Not well rounded enough to be a franchise player yet, but his improved playmaking at least makes it possible someday. Certainly has the ego of a franchise player though, and that alone might keep him from going down the Kevin Martin empty stats path. Booker wants to impose his will, it's just mostly as a volume scorer right now.
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#35 » by NoZoLakers » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:16 pm

yes with better support. his raw stats are impressive but then you see that it might also be mostly due to lack of talent/production from the rest of the team
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#36 » by NBARocks » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:22 pm

a franchise player can impact wins. Booker doesn't do that. "help" is irrelevant. the definition of "franchise player" is that they can carry the franchise without all-star help.

Lebron, Harden, AD, Giannis - these guys have proven that even without all-star teammates they can drag a team to the playoffs.
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#37 » by nuposse04 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:28 pm

As a first option player, probably not. He could be a good 2nd option on a contender. He could make a leap, but it better come in the next 2-3 season.
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#38 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:51 pm

koningcosmo wrote:i went for hmmm no, because im not convinced yet. He got alot of hype for his 70pt game but hasnt really progressed since.


Fair game to him, he got it against us and I'm not hating, but if you watched that game, it was blatantly disgusting if you're trying to teach a young team to win. He basically shot half of his team's shots and more than 50% of em in the 2nd half. They started fouling us being down 4-5 points with a min to go so he can shoot more. This is not how winning is supposed to look.

Will be interesting if Booker is capable of at least carrying the Suns to a "near playoff run". They are paying him superstar money.
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#39 » by bringinhinkie » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:00 pm

no one cares that he put up 24/5/5 on a 21 team..

yes, he is skilled, but guys that put up huge numbers on bad teams are a dime a dozen .. just play fantasy bball for a year and watch how easily guys with bad teams put up stupid numbers when they get the minutes/shots

true franchise players put non-star players on their backs to 50+ wins (in addition to the numbers):

lebron, cp3, harden of recent .. jkidd in NJ.. ewing in nyc .. etc etc

he obviously can (and will) improve, but it is rare that franchise-type studs aren't extremely apparent out of the gate
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Re: Is Devin Booker a Franchise Player? 

Post#40 » by LeMasta » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:01 pm

yes, but not for a contender

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