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[13th Man]

I will wait to get official ruling on his immigration status but it does not change the fact how horrible of an act he commtted.

This is absolutely hilarious because you didn't wait at all. You pounced on this as soon as Trump and every conservative news outlet brought this up as a distraction to his former campaign manager and lawyer's crimes. You are absolutely prone to being manipulated by Trump and alt-right sources.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/suspect-in-murder-of-student-mollie-tibbetts-worked-under-fake-name/news-story/28db569e2950f3630c25ed2ec54b9c02

Suspect in murder of student Mollie Tibbetts ‘worked under fake name’

US Citizenship and Immigration Services has no record of Rivera, who is charged with first-degree murder, having “any lawful immigration status” whatsoever.



So are you ready to recant your statement now Mr. Don't jump the gun? It's pretty obvious that this POS is an illegal if he used a fake name and has no documented immigration records.

[13th Man]

And no, for the record, we didn't vote him into office. Look at the popular vote tallies again.

Are you that blatantly biased and disrespectful to your own country that you don't acknowledge the constitution and the Electoral College? Please continue with the fake narrative that the popular vote is what makes the candidate the POTUS.

MDB knows the consequences of beating someone up. Pretty sure you as a racist should too though I'm sure you do, you closet racist.

Of course he knows the consequences. That is my whole point. You guys tell me to quit it with citing Antifa yet you are not better than Antifa. Anyone that expresses their freedom of speech that does not align with your views? Let's incite violence and harm onto them.

Mr. Archive, I don't ever want to hear you making fun of the term "slap him silly", when you threaten to go to jail if I ever expressed 1/6h of my views to you in real life. You are a thug and a hypocrite.

Do you take pride in sharing the same views as neo-Nazis and the KKK?

That is your fake narrative. You know 10x more about them than I do. The true racists are the ones that make everything out to be about race.

Breaking News: Fox News viewers more easily manipulated than CNN or MSNBC viewers. (shocked gasp)

It's a fact. Fox News is ranks highest amongst the MSM networks when it comes to trustworthiness. CNN and MSNBC are bottom of the barrel.

[13th Man]

And on that note, let's give this thread a short break. Probably reopen in three hours when Trump tweets during his morning dump.

Yeah, lets lock the thread when you simply wanted the last word in. Very mature moderating.

[13th Man]

you finally get it! systemic racism is exactly it. when you have privitized jails with quotes to fill with inmates, cops hunting blacks, and backs 5 times more likely to be convicted of a crime compared to whites for the same offense how is that anything but systemic racism?

I never said that systemic racism does not exist. My argument is that the solution should come from ALL fronts; the system, the politicians and at home. You seem to not want to acknowledge the at home part and try to pin all of the woes on the system. Like I said, I don't claim to have the solutions, just stating an obvious course of action is to tackle this from as many angles as possible.

So you are going to choose to ignore your own source telling you unarmed blacks are more liekly to be killed?

When did i ignore that? unarmed blacks being more likely to be killed is a horrific tragedy and the biggest problem. Cops feel they can just kill any black man they want, even if they are unarmed, without a crime even taking place.

Dude, you are responding to your own quote, not mine. Don't need to debate yourself.

we have the numbers. we showed them to you. you refuse to look at them objectively and admit to massive systemic racism and corrupt racist cops.

you know why?

you are a giant racist.

you having a blakc friend doesnt change that. you helping/teaching black students doesnt change that

Again, I am not denying systemic racism. It's definitely a much more complicated issue than that I can understand. If you acknowledge that the solution should come from all fronts then I can sympathize and agree with that.

Again, who is the racist. One that has positive interactions with different races daily or one that makes everything out to be about race in a negative light?

[13th Man]

the most likely scenario is that he isnt canadian, or anything he claims he is. he is most like a middle aged white american trolling us with a far right-wing agenda, using the canadian part and the 'i teach black kids' part to pretend he somehow isnt biased

How many people are in North America? Hundreds of millions.

Newsflash: Not all people share the same view and should be painted with the same brush.

[13th Man]

Don't worry about me, I'm legit. If you knew me in real life you would say that I am the furthest from being a racist.

Lol, say the guy who spews nothing but racist anti-black nonsense and supports our racist president.

yeah we wont worry dude your a true humanitarian

I haven't spewed out anything racist, just facts to try to support some of my arguments. Have you heard of cognitive dssonance? Once again, twisting everything that I say into a racist remark which they are clearly not.

[13th Man]

there is always someone bigger and tougher then you no matter who you are. and its cowardly to hide behind a keyboard.

Why are you guys getting all violent? It's usually the Antifa folks that are the most violent and cowardly. They get violent when they are in packs but when confronted one on one watch what happens.

Watch on YouTube

This Antifa kid has been wanting a piece of Steven Crowder for the longest time. When confronted and given a chance he tucks his tail, walks away and can't even string together one sentence.

you dont share them because you'd be fired for being a racist homphobe and likely ostrisized by the community

Again, LOL @ supporting Trump automatically implies that you are a racist and will get fired. Just LOL! Do you even understand how a democratic system works? Freedom of speech anyone? Freedom of thought? Expression? Apparently these no longer apply with the left.

[Prokorov]

I never said that systemic racism does not exist. My argument is that the solution should come from ALL fronts; the system, the politicians and at home. You seem to not want to acknowledge the at home part and try to pin all of the woes on the system. Like I said, I don't claim to have the solutions, just stating an obvious course of action is to tackle this from as many angles as possible.

nothing can be done at home to stop systemic racism, other then white parents teaching their kids not to be racists

Again, I am not denying systemic racism. It's definitely a much more complicated issue than that I can understand. If you acknowledge that the solution should come from all fronts then I can sympathize and agree with that.

Again, who is the racist. One that has positive interactions with different races daily or one that makes everything out to be about race in a negative light?

having positive interactinos with different races doesnt mean you arent racist. you not understand that is a big part of the problem.

[Prokorov]

the most likely scenario is that he isnt canadian, or anything he claims he is. he is most like a middle aged white american trolling us with a far right-wing agenda, using the canadian part and the 'i teach black kids' part to pretend he somehow isnt biased

How many people are in North America? Hundreds of millions.

Newsflash: Not all people share the same view and should be painted with the same brush.

its ok not to share the same view. its not ok to be a racist homophobe who condones child abuse like you do

[Prokorov]

Don't worry about me, I'm legit. If you knew me in real life you would say that I am the furthest from being a racist.

Lol, say the guy who spews nothing but racist anti-black nonsense and supports our racist president.

yeah we wont worry dude your a true humanitarian

I haven't spewed out anything racist, just facts to try to support some of my arguments. Have you heard of cognitive dssonance? Once again, twisting everything that I say into a racist remark which they are clearly not.

you support trump. you are racist. im not sure if that is worse or you condoning child abuse is worse

[Prokorov]

Why are you guys getting all violent? It's usually the Antifa folks that are the most violent and cowardly. They get violent when they are in packs but when confronted one on one watch what happens.

you want to talk about violence? how about when you said you would beat your own child?

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Just so everyone knows, 13th Man is not going to listen to reason or logic. He has completely bought into the false reality painted by right wing media.

You're all wasting your time by responding to him. No right wing zealot is going to overcome his delusions because of an internet post and definitely not because you called him a bigot/racist.

[Rich Rane]

US Citizenship and Immigration Services has no record of Rivera, who is charged with first-degree murder, having “any lawful immigration status” whatsoever.



So are you ready to recant your statement now Mr. Don't jump the gun? It's pretty obvious that this POS is an illegal if he used a fake name and has no documented immigration records.

Whether he's an illegal immigrant or not, I hope he faces life in a prison in this country or another if he's convicted like any other person convicted of murder. What I won't do is use it as some political distraction for you and people like you. Well done falling for this by the way.

Are you that blatantly biased and disrespectful to your own country that you don't acknowledge the constitution and the Electoral College? Please continue with the fake narrative that the popular vote is what makes the candidate the POTUS.

You said we voted Trump in office. Popular vote clearly stated differently. I never said it was the popular vote that elected a POTUS. But back to your original point, had the country actually made the choice, Trump would not be an office.

Of course he knows the consequences. That is my whole point. You guys tell me to quit it with citing Antifa yet you are not better than Antifa. Anyone that expresses their freedom of speech that does not align with your views? Let's incite violence and harm onto them.

Did you wanna repeat this holding a tiki torch or perhaps cheering on a car going full speed into a group of protesters? You could talk about Antifa all you want, but we all know what side you would've been taken during the Charlottesville protests.

Do you take pride in sharing the same views as neo-Nazis and the KKK?

That is your fake narrative. You know 10x more about them than I do. The true racists are the ones that make everything out to be about race.

Answer my question.

It's a fact. Fox News is ranks highest amongst the MSM networks when it comes to trustworthiness. CNN and MSNBC are bottom of the barrel.

Results from a Rasmussen poll, which still does landline polling.

Yeah, lets lock the thread when you simply wanted the last word in. Very mature moderating.

Aw honey, that wasn't for you. That was for all of us.

[13th Man]

This is too funny. Even though I have explained at length what I meant by those terms but you continue to twist and spin those words. I will not waste my time do it again, afterall how can I beat Mr. Archive at his own game, I cannot. You win on on this one.

what is there to explain? you are such a bigot homophobe you would beat your own son if he was gay?


Sorry pal, it doesnt work that way. if you are going to say such horrible, tragic, bigoted, racist, violent things like that you cant play victem when it gets thrown in your face later.

Freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequences.

You fell right into Mr. Archive's trap. I thought that you would know by now that he likes to pull phrases from members and twists them out of context to no end. He does this on the main board all the time too.

The first one I mistakenly called gays "genetically defective" which I immediately admiited to it being a very poor choice of words. I apologized and said that I meant genetic anomoly; the point I was trying to make is that gays have a genetic biological difference and that I harbour no bad feelings for them due to this. So of course Mr. Archive takes that one line and has reposted it over a half dozen times here.

The second phrase is that I used the figure of speech, I would slap my son silly if he ever told me that he wanted to become trans. Of course Mr. Archive would twists this into me being a child abuser. This figure of speech basically means knock some sense into him, and even if I used that phrase, he would say call that physical abuse as well because I used the word knock as in knock out.

This dude is a weasal and you fell into his trap. He is also the biggest hypocrite because he was the one inciting violence on me when he said that he'd end up in jail if he heard me spew 1/6th of my thoughts in real life. So who is the real violent person here?

[13th Man]

Why are you guys getting all violent? It's usually the Antifa folks that are the most violent and cowardly. They get violent when they are in packs but when confronted one on one watch what happens.

you want to talk about violence? how about when you said you would beat your own child?

Read my following post. You fell into Mr. Archives trap.

[Rich Rane]

13th Man, do/did you believe Pizzagate is/was real?

[13th Man]

Whether he's an illegal immigrant or not, I hope he faces life in a prison in this country or another if he's convicted like any other person convicted of murder. What I won't do is use it as some political distraction for you and people like you. Well done falling for this by the way.

I totally agree with this. I think that is should be made mentioned of to prove a point but not overly politicizing it. At the same time, it should not be swept under the rug because it doesn't fit a narrative. Don't treat it as a high profile story then all of the sudden be mums about it.

You said we voted Trump in office. Popular vote clearly stated differently. I never said it was the popular vote that elected a POTUS. But back to your original point, had the country actually made the choice, Trump would not be an office.

You do have a choice. If you don't like or respect the constitution then you don't even have to vote, that is your choice as well. If anything, the cards were heavily stacked against Trump and he still won.

Did you wanna repeat this holding a tiki torch or perhaps cheering on a car going full speed into a group of protesters? You could talk about Antifa all you want, but we all know what side you would've been taken during the Charlottesville protests.

Do you take pride in sharing the same views as neo-Nazis and the KKK?

I absolutely do not condone that disgusting act. Why would I even condone that? I have no affiliation or agree with the neo-nazis or the KKK in any way. I despise the idiots from the Westboro Minister Church or whatever they're called, they're blatantly ugly hate groups. I don't understand how having my own views have to link me to those groups which I truly despise.

[13th Man]

13th Man, do/did you believe Pizzagate is/was real?

No I never did. Alex Jones is a looney. I don't even believe in the 9/11 conspiracy theory that it was perpetrated by the U.S. government. Well maybe indirectly but not directly. Never believed in his stupid Sandy Hook conspiracy theory either. He is either totally off the rails or very smart putting on this act for monetary gain.

With this, I disagree with him being banned from all media outlets, sets a bad precedence since this is subjective. The media can then start banning anyone else who they remotely disagree with.

[13th Man]

I admit to going overboard at despising the left. It is not meant as a racist action. Why would I continually trash Hillary, Bernie, Pelosi, Schumer, Comey, Strzok, Rosenstein and other white leftists if I was a white nationalist that supports the KKK? I'm also against Hollywood, the scrawny little rodents from Antifa etc., most of these folks are white.

[Prokorov]

This dude is a weasal and you fell into his trap. He is also the biggest hypocrite because he was the one inciting violence on me when he said that he'd end up in jail if he heard me spew 1/6th of my thoughts in real life. So who is the real violent person here?

there is no trap. i was in that thread when you posted those disgusting homophobic things and then said youd beat your son if he was gay.

your words. no one elses.