Political Roundtable Part XXII

[Sedale Threatt]

Also had this gem about MLK: "I didn’t think much of Dr. King. I mean, I am not trying to put him down, but if you think about the majority of the rhetoric, it’s about what’s being done to us. It doesn’t have damn near anything that says what we’re going to do for ourselves.” Brown got suckered by Nixon, so it's no surprise he's now been duped by Trump in his 80s.

Black conservatives are something else. I hear them explain it on a rational level, that not everybody can or should be expected to share the same values and beliefs, and I think, OK, fine.

But look at all the gigantic turds you have to eat along the way, with the recent instance of attempted voter suppression in Georgia being merely the latest in a long, long, LONG list of flagrant GOP offenses.

I totally can understand not supporting Democrats, or opting out of political involvement altogether. But to turn around and throw your hat in with a political party that has actively, aggressively sought for decades to disenfranchise people who look like you ... I will never, ever understand that.

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[closg00]

The Clinton witch Hunt was an investigation looking for a crime. The Mueller investigation is looking into crimes Trump admitted to - boasted about! - on national TV.

LOL at the Clinton witchhunt. You're such a partisan hack, it's pathetic.

The Whitewater investigation looked into allegations of wrongdoing (a Republican fishing expedition) for things that supposedly happened years before Clinton became President, all-good for Republicans, now they are whining about an investigation that is far more serious.

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More proof that Trump is innocent! Would a guilty man hire such an incoherent cretin to be his attorney? No!

Trump 20/20! The White Man for The White Time!

[Zonkerbl]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/24/president-trumps-false-claim-about-murders-south-african-farms/?utm_term=.1a3ad170f90f

No white farmers are not being MASS MURDERED in South Africa, Jesus H Christ. To throw that out as something remotely believable underscores the complete lack of credibility or brains of the claimant.

Also:
"Carlson complained that Ramaphosa was “seizing land from his own citizens without compensation.” But Ramaphosa outlined a plan for farmland seizures “in the public interest subject to just and equitable compensation,” according to his op-ed in the Financial Times."

It's a crappy situation on both sides. We're not supposed to punish white people for being white is code for "let's continue to punish black people for being black and not make up for being jerks for the last 200 years." Status quo is unfair for the rightful majority rulers of South Africa. Reparations are arguably unfair to the white people. Welcome to the real world where hard decisions have to be made to move forward. Get your heads out of the sand.

[Zonkerbl]

TGW: I am a hack. I am an anti-lies hack. I am an anti-hatred hack. I will rant and rail against racism and propaganda UNTIL I DIE. Or somebody more powerful than me forces me to shut up. Your ignorant ass isn't going to shut me up that's for sure.

[Kanyewest]

White House doesn't care about election fraud. https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-blocks-bill-protect-elections-173459278.html

[dobrojim]

Because the investigation is a witch hunt. It's an investigation in search of an actual crime. This is not how it's supposed to work in a Constitutional Republic. If you sick the full power of the government on nearly any individual, and investigate long enough, you are likely to find a crime eventually. This is exactly what happened with the Stormy Daniels non-disclosure agreement being transformed into a campaign finance violation.

The hacking of the DNC was an actual crime. I don't think you missed it but seem
to have conveniently forgotten that indictments have been returned against
those the govt accuses of being responsible. The indictments have been described
as going into great detail about who did it and how it was done.

The interference, by Russia, in the 2016 election, not just the hacking of emails,
was an actual crime.

The payment to Daniels was in fact an actual crime.

High ranking campaign officials lying (why did they think they needed to or should lie about these
meetings and contacts?) to the FBI about Russian contacts was an actual crime.

Firing Comey with corrupt intent is a crime. (why did the story change multiple times
on why this decision was made?)

Another thing we're likely to be hearing more about in the not too distant future
is the illegality of self dealing by charitable foundations.

I'm struck by the thoughts expressed by Trump that cooperation with the DoJ in the
course of an investigation should be prohibited. All the while claiming to be the
'law & order' President. That's rich. The corruption of this era of Republicans has
been nothing less than breathtaking.

[Zonkerbl]

I know voters wanted change in the last election. But is Mafia rule better than Democracy?

[gtn130]

I know voters wanted change in the last election. But is Mafia rule better than Democracy?

electing a mob boss to own the libs

[nate33]

The hacking of the DNC was an actual crime. I don't think you missed it but seem
to have conveniently forgotten that indictments have been returned against
those the govt accuses of being responsible. The indictments have been described
as going into great detail about who did it and how it was done.

A crime in which there is no evidence that Trump had anything to do with it.

The interference, by Russia, in the 2016 election, not just the hacking of emails,
was an actual crime.

A crime in which there is no evidence that Trump had anything to do with it. And it's a "crime" that every major nation does to every other nation's elections. Only this time around, we get a special prosecutor going after Trump.

The payment to Daniels was in fact an actual crime.

No. That is not yet the case. Many, including former heads of the FEC, say it wasn't. They must first conclude that the payment was specifically and only for the good of the campaign (and not for the good of a high public profile media star and husband). Also, they must conclude criminal intent. Trump instructed his lawyer to take care of the issue. Surely, he meant to take care of it in a legal manner. Cohen screwed up, not Trump.

High ranking campaign officials lying (why did they think they needed to or should lie about these
meetings and contacts?) to the FBI about Russian contacts was an actual crime.

No high ranking campaign officials lied. Papadoplous may have lied but he's hardly high ranking. He was an unpaid volunteer whom Trump never even met. Regarding Flynn, the 302's say that both FBI agents didn't believe that Flynn lied with intent. And let's not forget that he was ambushed by FBI agents (without a lawyer present) on the matter for the "crime" of acting totally appropriately in having conversations with Russian representatives during the transition period. He should never have been put in that position. Flynn plead guilty because he was going bankrupt with legal fees. Also, that case is still open.

Firing Comey with corrupt intent is a crime. (why did the story change multiple times
on why this decision was made?)

No. It's not. Trump can fire anyone he wants to in the Executive Branch. That's what Alan Dershowitz says. Comey clearly deserved firing for his frequent and flagrant violations of procedure, and his uneven application of the law.

Another thing we're likely to be hearing more about in the not too distant future
is the illegality of self dealing by charitable foundations.

Again, an investigation in search of a crime. If you performed an extensive enough legal anal exam on any President or significant political figure, you will find evidence of campaign finance violations or questionable tax dodging using charitable foundations or offshore businesses.

[JWizmentality]

So many Trumpies and GOPers indicted or going to jail. Happy Times.
Tick tock mofos.
How's Lock her up working for ya deplorables??

[Kanyewest]

Weisselberg, the longtime chief financial officer for President Trump’s private company, was granted immunity in the federal investigation into longtime Trump attorney Michael Cohen.

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Weisselberg, the longtime chief financial officer for President Trump’s private company, was granted immunity in the federal investigation into longtime Trump attorney Michael Cohen.

last month

[Kanyewest]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/longtime-trump-organization-cfo-weisselberg-granted-immunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html
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entirely lopsided investigation. the conservative american public is not dumb. see you at the ballot box.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/longtime-trump-organization-cfo-weisselberg-granted-immunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html
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solid explanation by mcarthy

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[gtn130]

No. It's not. Trump can fire anyone he wants to in the Executive Branch. That's what Alan Dershowitz says. Comey clearly deserved firing for his frequent and flagrant violations of procedure, and his uneven application of the law.

LOL well if Alan Dershowitz says so!

And can you please stop playing dumb? Trump fired Comey because of the Russia Investigation, and he said exactly that to Lester Holt. All of this nonsense you're spinning up is fooling absolutely no one. Enjoy your alternate reality, man.