Future Draft Games

[Dr Positivity]

Teammates of an MVP draft.

You can only pick a player if he was a teammate of an MVP in the season he was MVP. Maybe 1970 onwards, since there hasn't been that many MVPs. Maybe 1980 onwards could work, as teams like Magic Lakers and Bird Celtics had quite a number of good players.

Interesting idea but the player pool would be pretty small, another one where it might be worth going all-stars only

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

How about a game where you can only pick one player from selected "bands" of the draft in which they were selected? So you can take one guy who was drafted in picks 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-30, then the other two can be any pick after 30 (or undrafted). You can pick from each band in whichever order you like. With only one chance to grab a top five pick, the element of snapping up stars who were taken lower down would add a new strategic wrinkle.

Ohh, I like the concept/idea of this. What ERA were you plan on doing?

Thoughts?

Thoughts?

Thoughts?

[Laimbeer]

How about a game where you can only pick one player from selected "bands" of the draft in which they were selected? So you can take one guy who was drafted in picks 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-30, then the other two can be any pick after 30 (or undrafted). You can pick from each band in whichever order you like. With only one chance to grab a top five pick, the element of snapping up stars who were taken lower down would add a new strategic wrinkle.

Ohh, I like the concept/idea of this. What ERA were you plan on doing?

Thoughts?

Thoughts?

Thoughts?

I like it, too. I wonder if it's an edge for A though, with the opportunity to take the plums from lower bands and being able to go back and get another top tier guy in 1-5.

Also, how about restricting all picks, like your last two have to be from the top half of the second round and the bottom half of the second round. Could see some fresh faces on the bench.

[Dr Positivity]

I like it, too. I wonder if it's an edge for A though, with the opportunity to take the plums from lower bands and being able to go back and get another top tier guy in 1-5.

Would it help if 1-5 was split into multiple categories? Like #1 or top 2 being its own category, and 2-5 or 3-5 being another.

[Fadeaway_J]

I like it, too. I wonder if it's an edge for A though, with the opportunity to take the plums from lower bands and being able to go back and get another top tier guy in 1-5.

Also, how about restricting all picks, like your last two have to be from the top half of the second round and the bottom half of the second round. Could see some fresh faces on the bench.

Nearly all the elite #1 options are top five picks. If you reach down as an A picker you run the risk of having the best ones wiped out by the time it gets back to you.

90s to now is what I had in mind but I haven't looked at any pool in detail.

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

I like it, too. I wonder if it's an edge for A though, with the opportunity to take the plums from lower bands and being able to go back and get another top tier guy in 1-5.

Also, how about restricting all picks, like your last two have to be from the top half of the second round and the bottom half of the second round. Could see some fresh faces on the bench.

Nearly all the elite #1 options are top five picks. If you reach down as an A picker you run the risk of having the best ones wiped out by the time it gets back to you.

90s to now is what I had in mind but I haven't looked at any pool in detail.

That's what I was thinking of as well for the pool given that the lottery started having two rounds beginning around that time frame. Haven't looked at the pool in detail as well, but I have some free time right now and I can run this game next if nobody opposes or if you don't want too.

[Fadeaway_J]

As far as the after 30 picks, I thought it better to leave them open given that the size of the draft - and by extension the second round - has changed repeatedly over the years.

[8on]

I like it, too.

[Fadeaway_J]

So I've done some actual research on the 90s to now pool, and based on what I've found I think some tweaks will be necessary.

First of all, Dr P's suggestion to split the top five into two categories (#1, 2-5) looks like a sensible one. Top five alone just takes in too many players, from superstars to fringe All-Stars.

It also seems like the rest of the third round needs to be broadened. 16-20 and 26-30 are both very thin. Going 11-20 and then 21-30 seems more viable. Maybe allow multiple picks in those rounds.

CSF, I suggest you also take a look when you get a chance. We don't want the game to get bogged down because the numbers don't work out.

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

So I've done some actual research on the 90s to now pool, and based on what I've found I think some tweaks will be necessary.

First of all, Dr P's suggestion to split the top five into two categories (#1, 2-5) looks like a sensible one. Top five alone just takes in too many players, from superstars to fringe All-Stars.

It also seems like the rest of the third round needs to be broadened. 16-20 and 26-30 are both very thin. Going 11-20 and then 21-30 seems more viable. Maybe allow multiple picks in those rounds.

CSF, I suggest you also take a look when you get a chance. We don't want the game to get bogged down because the numbers don't work out.

Well good thing you made this post since I was making a sign up thread with your original criteria and that wouldn't have worked out. That top five is deeper than I thought it would be. What about this after looking into it further more..

Tiers

1st pick
2nd-5th pick x 2
6-10th pick
11-20th pick
21-30th pick
Round 2/Undrafted players x 2

[Fadeaway_J]

So I've done some actual research on the 90s to now pool, and based on what I've found I think some tweaks will be necessary.

First of all, Dr P's suggestion to split the top five into two categories (#1, 2-5) looks like a sensible one. Top five alone just takes in too many players, from superstars to fringe All-Stars.

It also seems like the rest of the third round needs to be broadened. 16-20 and 26-30 are both very thin. Going 11-20 and then 21-30 seems more viable. Maybe allow multiple picks in those rounds.

CSF, I suggest you also take a look when you get a chance. We don't want the game to get bogged down because the numbers don't work out.

Well good thing you made this post since I was making a sign up thread with your original criteria and that wouldn't have worked out. That top five is deeper than I thought it would be. What about this after looking into it further more..

Tiers

1st pick
2nd-5th pick x 2
6-10th pick
11-20th pick
21-30th pick
Round 2/Undrafted players x 2

That seems fine. The pool of #1 picks isn't as deep as I thought in terms of elite players, but that just adds to the strategy.

With that said, if you get 16 signups you may want to consider expanding the pool to post-merger.

[Laimbeer]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/draft_finder.cgi

Never realized BR had this until I started poking around.

[ardee]

Anyone interested in another X-Year Plan Draft? It's been 5 months since we did the 7 year plan. I was thinking we could just make this a regular Five Year Plan and go 1977-2018 with one of the picks being over a six year span (maybe '77-'82).

[Laimbeer]

What about one really short experiment game which will only last two rounds. In first round you can draft any two players alltime and in the second round you will draft the rest of your team and end up with 8 like usual and maybe only from 2010 - 2018

reasons

I have always wanted to see some monsters duos like Lebron/Mike, Magic/Shaq etc..

The last drafter will pick his entire team in one go. I have no idea how it would go, the monster duos might win this in a landslide but if we limit the second round with a short timeframe then I could see the first pick end with a lot worse supporting cast than the later picks

anyway it would be really short game and we could just go with ranking

I think this is an interesting, one off kind of thing. But you aren't going to get LeBron-Mike level duos if you go to a small pool like 2010-18. My concern is the first 2-3 picks get such elite pairs that folks in maybe the 4-6 area are going to have problems. It doesn't seem like their second round advantage would make up for the gap in the top duo.

[Laimbeer]

Teammates of an MVP draft.

You can only pick a player if he was a teammate of an MVP in the season he was MVP. Maybe 1970 onwards, since there hasn't been that many MVPs. Maybe 1980 onwards could work, as teams like Magic Lakers and Bird Celtics had quite a number of good players.

Interesting idea but the player pool would be pretty small, another one where it might be worth going all-stars only

I like the original idea, though I wonder if there will be a pretty decent drop after a few players.

What do you mean by going all-stars only?

[Dr Positivity]

Teammates of an MVP draft.

You can only pick a player if he was a teammate of an MVP in the season he was MVP. Maybe 1970 onwards, since there hasn't been that many MVPs. Maybe 1980 onwards could work, as teams like Magic Lakers and Bird Celtics had quite a number of good players.

Interesting idea but the player pool would be pretty small, another one where it might be worth going all-stars only

I like the original idea, though I wonder if there will be a pretty decent drop after a few players.

What do you mean by going all-stars only?

Players who have made an all-star team have to be teammates of an MVP, but everyone who has never made an all-star team is eligible

Also are the MVPs themselves not in this draft? Maybe MVPs and teammates of an MVP should be allowed

[migya]

Interesting idea but the player pool would be pretty small, another one where it might be worth going all-stars only

I like the original idea, though I wonder if there will be a pretty decent drop after a few players.

What do you mean by going all-stars only?

Players who have made an all-star team have to be teammates of an MVP, but everyone who has never made an all-star team is eligible

Also are the MVPs themselves not in this draft? Maybe MVPs and teammates of an MVP should be allowed

My original thought with this idea was to have different players picked than the usual ones that we see in just about every game.

No MVP picked> Only the teammates of an MVP in the season he was MVP can be picked. It will be rather weak teams compared to the usual ones we pick but it will take thinking and fitting players together.

[Zion Wembanyama]

How about two players that played on the same team, but only one all-star per pick. So you could pick Shaq and Odom, but not Shaq and Kobe. MJ and Kerr, but not MJ and Pip, etc. You can only draft from a franchise once. 60-18 era. 85 fga.

[Laimbeer]

I like the original idea, though I wonder if there will be a pretty decent drop after a few players.

What do you mean by going all-stars only?

Players who have made an all-star team have to be teammates of an MVP, but everyone who has never made an all-star team is eligible

Also are the MVPs themselves not in this draft? Maybe MVPs and teammates of an MVP should be allowed

My original thought with this idea was to have different players picked than the usual ones that we see in just about every game.

No MVP picked> Only the teammates of an MVP in the season he was MVP can be picked. It will be rather weak teams compared to the usual ones we pick but it will take thinking and fitting players together.

I like it without the MVPs, tbh. Reminds me of the no all-NBA draft in terms of qualtiy of player. You'd have to use the season in which their teammate was MVP, I assume.

[8on]

only first round NBA Draft picks?
here’s a list of players who wouldn’t be available: http://bkref.com/tiny/cL9ht

other exclusions include undrafted guys like Ben Wallace, Moses, Bowen and more