wazabifuzz wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.mlb.com/233470234-indians-merryweather-excels-in-triple-a-debut.amp.html
If it’s is this merryweather , it’s not a bad outing AAA he just had.
This is from 2017
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wazabifuzz wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.mlb.com/233470234-indians-merryweather-excels-in-triple-a-debut.amp.html
If it’s is this merryweather , it’s not a bad outing AAA he just had.
Fairview4Life wrote:I'm sure the respect from this board you think you so richly deserve is coming. Some day my guy. Some day. Keep reaching for that rainbow.
-MetA4- wrote:This isn't a regular PTBNL, so I'm not sure why that term keeps getting thrown around maliciously. They didn't send nearly $3 million with Donaldson to get back a AAAA arm. Even if its the Merryweather kid, read the reports on his actual stuff. They know that system well and most of that Cleveland core you see today was built around supposed throwaway acquisitions who ended up actually being outstanding scouting decisions. Billy McKinney has been worth nearly the twice the wins of Happ since that trade went down.
Cyrus wrote:So who is this guy we got we got Donaldson - Merryweather , and why is Atkins/Jays excited to be getting him? Especially when he made it sound there were multiple parties interested, and that we paid 2.5 mill of Donaldson 3.7 mill owed. So essentially we paid 2.5 mill for a player.
Cyrus wrote:So who is this guy we got we got Donaldson - Merryweather , and why is Atkins/Jays excited to be getting him? Especially when he made it sound there were multiple parties interested, and that we paid 2.5 mill of Donaldson 3.7 mill owed. So essentially we paid 2.5 mill for a player.
Tanner wrote:Cyrus wrote:So who is this guy we got we got Donaldson - Merryweather , and why is Atkins/Jays excited to be getting him? Especially when he made it sound there were multiple parties interested, and that we paid 2.5 mill of Donaldson 3.7 mill owed. So essentially we paid 2.5 mill for a player.
No one was interested in Donaldson for $3.7m, otherwise he would have been claimed on waivers. The Jays saved a mil and got a player who is close to big league ready, which has more value than a comp pick after the 2nd round.
Schad wrote:A pick in the Comp B range may be worth about $7m in surplus value; if Merryweather's a competent back-end starter or a good reliever, he's comfortably worth more than that.
Skin Blues wrote:Schad wrote:A pick in the Comp B range may be worth about $7m in surplus value; if Merryweather's a competent back-end starter or a good reliever, he's comfortably worth more than that.
The Padres also paid $144M for Eric Hosmer this past offseason, so we probably shouldn't be using anecdotes regarding their current FO to assign value to general assets!! Later in the article you linked, they mention two separate swaps that would indicate a comp pick is worth about $2.8-$3.0M, which makes a lot more sense.
Schad wrote:Skin Blues wrote:Schad wrote:A pick in the Comp B range may be worth about $7m in surplus value; if Merryweather's a competent back-end starter or a good reliever, he's comfortably worth more than that.
The Padres also paid $144M for Eric Hosmer this past offseason, so we probably shouldn't be using anecdotes regarding their current FO to assign value to general assets!! Later in the article you linked, they mention two separate swaps that would indicate a comp pick is worth about $2.8-$3.0M, which makes a lot more sense.
They link to multiple studies that suggest that the surplus value is in that range. It'd be more surprising if a pick in that range was only worth $2.8-3m; it really isn't difficult to generate a few mil in surplus value. Hence why I suggest that Merryweather would clear even if he fails as a starter and becomes a good 7th/8th inning guy.
Skin Blues wrote:The first study is from a 2015 trade in which the pick in question was after the first round, not after the second round. And the second study concludes that a pick in the 26-30 range would be worth around $8.1M. That's before the first comp round, let alone the second comp round. Extrapolate it out and it comes in at around the $3M mark.
A simple way to look at this is: if second round comp picks were worth $7M, why was nobody willing to give even half of that amount for the two that the Orioles traded away in 2015 and 2016?