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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1581 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:38 am

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EAS Law wrote:LOL I’m here for Magicfan101’s weekly “ UCF sucks despite winning by 30+” rants. Did not disappoint. Come on man—we get it, the SOS is pretty poor, but they can only play the other team on the field. They’ve been crushing each opponent so far. It is sort of anticlimactic that we will almost certainly finish just at or above 10 even if we go undefeated but it is what it is. Maybe the powers that be give us a nod to put up or shut up this season if we keep playing this way.


Fans like you are why I’m so embarrassed to be a Golden Knight.

You settle for your participation trophies and fail to see why others want more even at the risk of failure.

No one is talking about settling but what is this constant whining about how our opponents suck going to accomplish? There is nothing substantive, constructive, or new about these posts. I and many other actual fans of UCF are enjoying the season and not getting hung up on things that have zero chance of changing. The schedule is what it is man—if we were losing or barely winning, then by all means go for it, but we are taking care of business. There is nothing that can be done about the conference, opponents, etc. at this time. It also takes both UCF and other schools to agree to change any of what you complain of.


Who is talking about the schedule? That has absolutely nothing to do with anything I am or have been talking about.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1582 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:40 am

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MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:LOL I’m here for Magicfan101’s weekly “ UCF sucks despite winning by 30+” rants. Did not disappoint. Come on man—we get it, the SOS is pretty poor, but they can only play the other team on the field. They’ve been crushing each opponent so far. It is sort of anticlimactic that we will almost certainly finish just at or above 10 even if we go undefeated but it is what it is. Maybe the powers that be give us a nod to put up or shut up this season if we keep playing this way.


Fans like you are why I’m so embarrassed to be a Golden Knight.

You settle for your participation trophies and fail to see why others want more even at the risk of failure.


Then maybe you should think about becoming a Knight supporter as the golden knights nickname ended years ago.


They will always be the Golden Knights. That’s what they were when I grew up in Orlando and when I graduated from UCF.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1583 » by drsd » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:39 am

UCF has scored 30 or more points in each game of its 16-game winning streak/
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1584 » by drsd » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:27 am

MagicFan101 wrote:They will always be the Golden Knights. That’s what they were when I grew up in Orlando and when I graduated from UCF.



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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1585 » by EAS Law » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:48 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Fans like you are why I’m so embarrassed to be a Golden Knight.

You settle for your participation trophies and fail to see why others want more even at the risk of failure.

No one is talking about settling but what is this constant whining about how our opponents suck going to accomplish? There is nothing substantive, constructive, or new about these posts. I and many other actual fans of UCF are enjoying the season and not getting hung up on things that have zero chance of changing. The schedule is what it is man—if we were losing or barely winning, then by all means go for it, but we are taking care of business. There is nothing that can be done about the conference, opponents, etc. at this time. It also takes both UCF and other schools to agree to change any of what you complain of.


Who is talking about the schedule? That has absolutely nothing to do with anything I am or have been talking about.

Forgive me—the last time we went back and forth about this, I swore your position was that the team and program are garbage because we don’t play anyone. Do you mean now that they’re garbage anyway? I’m sure the school is working to get into a more meaningful situation with P5 schools.

Let me ask this though, if UCF hypothetically beat teams like Duke, FSU, UF all in a season, is UCF still trash because although those are ACC and SEC, they aren’t very good right now? Where do you draw the line?
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1586 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:21 pm

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EAS Law wrote:No one is talking about settling but what is this constant whining about how our opponents suck going to accomplish? There is nothing substantive, constructive, or new about these posts. I and many other actual fans of UCF are enjoying the season and not getting hung up on things that have zero chance of changing. The schedule is what it is man—if we were losing or barely winning, then by all means go for it, but we are taking care of business. There is nothing that can be done about the conference, opponents, etc. at this time. It also takes both UCF and other schools to agree to change any of what you complain of.


Who is talking about the schedule? That has absolutely nothing to do with anything I am or have been talking about.

Forgive me—the last time we went back and forth about this, I swore your position was that the team and program are garbage because we don’t play anyone. Do you mean now that they’re garbage anyway? I’m sure the school is working to get into a more meaningful situation with P5 schools.

Let me ask this though, if UCF hypothetically beat teams like Duke, FSU, UF all in a season, is UCF still trash because although those are ACC and SEC, they aren’t very good right now? Where do you draw the line?


*sigh* your hypothetical question still focuses around one season. That is your problem! ... and the problem with UCF leadership.

Look at where FSU and UF are or where Miami was recently. Everyone has ups and downs but the major PROGRAMS are not defined by individual games or seasons.

At the moment, one single season which wasn’t good enough to keep our coach or play for a real post-season game is all UCF is. We aren’t a program. Meanwhile, administration passes on long term deals with marquee programs which would sustain the spotlight UCF has earned simply because it financially favors the more attractive program. This is completely shortsighted.

As mentioned before, everyone has their ups and downs and UCF’s fall back closer to be a 0 loss team is around the corner. And that is okay. It happens to every school. But how quickly can they turn it back around? I see coaches walking away and a lack of top talent coming in.

UCF isn’t trash. That was never my argument. I would not say that about my alma mater. But UCF’s plan for the future is trash.
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Re: #13 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1587 » by UCF » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:41 pm

I can’t take your feedback seriously. Trash? We’re the #13 ranked team in the nation according the AP. We’ll likely have Milton back next year so we’ll have great odds to have three consecutively ranked teams. We’re filling the stadium which bucks the national trend of declining attendance.

From our admin, Danny White & Co. has killed all of our past fundraising records. Sure we’d love to be in a better conference with a built in quality (by name only) schedule. We schedule games that make financial sense because to survive that’s what we need. Taking payday road games or lopsided 2 for 1’s won’t build our fan base. Winning has brought us 10,000 new season ticket holders. Bad scheduling deals didn’t make that happen. Our future is golden and should realignment come up again we’re setup for top consideration.
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Re: #13 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1588 » by craig01 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:09 am

UCF wrote:I can’t take your feedback seriously. Trash? We’re the #13 ranked team in the nation according the AP. We’ll likely have Milton back next year so we’ll have great odds to have three consecutively ranked teams. We’re filling the stadium which bucks the national trend of declining attendance.

From our admin, Danny White & Co. has killed all of our past fundraising records. Sure we’d love to be in a better conference with a built in quality (by name only) schedule. We schedule games that make financial sense because to survive that’s what we need. Taking payday road games or lopsided 2 for 1’s won’t build our fan base. Winning has brought us 10,000 new season ticket holders. Bad scheduling deals didn’t make that happen. Our future is golden and should realignment come up again we’re setup for top consideration.


I agree.

I guess that agreeing here will make me one of the pathetic, shortsighted, dumb, clueless, and trashy ones.

Ucf can't just barge their way into the big 12.

And playing one-offs won't do much for knocking down doors either. Those days are over (ask Boise). The tv cartel manages inclusion.

And, the disparity of conference tv money is far far greater than ever, so losing home revenue game is very damaging to programs that are just scraping for crumbs to stay afloat.

It's about the TV sets. If there is to be an expansion some day down the road, then Ucf will be in a serious discussion as things stand now.

And that too may change in the next 5-10 years. Expansion in the near future is just very doubtful.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1589 » by nymets1 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:12 am

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EAS Law wrote:LOL I’m here for Magicfan101’s weekly “ UCF sucks despite winning by 30+” rants. Did not disappoint. Come on man—we get it, the SOS is pretty poor, but they can only play the other team on the field. They’ve been crushing each opponent so far. It is sort of anticlimactic that we will almost certainly finish just at or above 10 even if we go undefeated but it is what it is. Maybe the powers that be give us a nod to put up or shut up this season if we keep playing this way.


Fans like you are why I’m so embarrassed to be a Golden Knight.

You settle for your participation trophies and fail to see why others want more even at the risk of failure.


Since when are you a golden knight? You act like the Seminoles are the only team you care about and UCF is your least favorite team. Just because you claim your from Orlando and claim you graduated from UCF, Does not mean you stay UCF fan forever.
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Re: #13 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1590 » by tiderulz » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:31 am

UCF wrote:I can’t take your feedback seriously. Trash? We’re the #13 ranked team in the nation according the AP. We’ll likely have Milton back next year so we’ll have great odds to have three consecutively ranked teams. We’re filling the stadium which bucks the national trend of declining attendance.

From our admin, Danny White & Co. has killed all of our past fundraising records. Sure we’d love to be in a better conference with a built in quality (by name only) schedule. We schedule games that make financial sense because to survive that’s what we need. Taking payday road games or lopsided 2 for 1’s won’t build our fan base. Winning has brought us 10,000 new season ticket holders. Bad scheduling deals didn’t make that happen. Our future is golden and should realignment come up again we’re setup for top consideration.


taking payday road games added to Boise St's fan base
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1591 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:49 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:LOL I’m here for Magicfan101’s weekly “ UCF sucks despite winning by 30+” rants. Did not disappoint. Come on man—we get it, the SOS is pretty poor, but they can only play the other team on the field. They’ve been crushing each opponent so far. It is sort of anticlimactic that we will almost certainly finish just at or above 10 even if we go undefeated but it is what it is. Maybe the powers that be give us a nod to put up or shut up this season if we keep playing this way.


Fans like you are why I’m so embarrassed to be a Golden Knight.

You settle for your participation trophies and fail to see why others want more even at the risk of failure.


Since when are you a golden knight? You act like the Seminoles are the only team you care about and UCF is your least favorite team. Just because you claim your from Orlando and claim you graduated from UCF, Does not mean you stay UCF fan forever.


Many of us support multiple teams throughout sports. I don’t have an NFL team and don’t follow baseball or hockey. I follow the Magic and college football.

I have been an FSU fan since I was a kid. But I greatly enjoyed attending UCF, GaTech and Baylor games during my time there. GaTech never fully won me over in football as FSU is king in the ACC. I cheer cheer for the Yellow Jackets but don’t passionately follow them. It’s hard to focus on Baylor football lately given the far more important off the field issues surrounding our program. Half my family went to UCF. I have been attending games (even before I really cared) at the citrus bowl since I was was a kid. I left Florida before the on campus stadium was finished.

But yes, you’re right I’m not a fan because I want a sustained future of success over a single season which amounted to nothing meaningful. The greatest season in school history results in no real post-season, losing the coach and little to no uptick in recruiting. Ups and downs on college sports come in cycles of graduation classes. The fall for UCF is soon to come and they have done nothing to capitlize on this recent success beyond short term fundraising.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1592 » by UCFJayBird » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:29 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
nymets1 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Fans like you are why I’m so embarrassed to be a Golden Knight.

You settle for your participation trophies and fail to see why others want more even at the risk of failure.


Since when are you a golden knight? You act like the Seminoles are the only team you care about and UCF is your least favorite team. Just because you claim your from Orlando and claim you graduated from UCF, Does not mean you stay UCF fan forever.


Many of us support multiple teams throughout sports. I don’t have an NFL team and don’t follow baseball or hockey. I follow the Magic and college football.

I have been an FSU fan since I was a kid. But I greatly enjoyed attending UCF, GaTech and Baylor games during my time there. GaTech never fully won me over in football as FSU is king in the ACC. I cheer cheer for the Yellow Jackets but don’t passionately follow them. It’s hard to focus on Baylor football lately given the far more important off the field issues surrounding our program. Half my family went to UCF. I have been attending games (even before I really cared) at the citrus bowl since I was was a kid. I left Florida before the on campus stadium was finished.

But yes, you’re right I’m not a fan because I want a sustained future of success over a single season which amounted to nothing meaningful. The greatest season in school history results in no real post-season, losing the coach and little to no uptick in recruiting. Ups and downs on college sports come in cycles of graduation classes. The fall for UCF is soon to come and they have done nothing to capitlize on this recent success beyond short term fundraising.



You focus way too much on recruiting stars and rankings.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1593 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:50 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
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Since when are you a golden knight? You act like the Seminoles are the only team you care about and UCF is your least favorite team. Just because you claim your from Orlando and claim you graduated from UCF, Does not mean you stay UCF fan forever.


Many of us support multiple teams throughout sports. I don’t have an NFL team and don’t follow baseball or hockey. I follow the Magic and college football.

I have been an FSU fan since I was a kid. But I greatly enjoyed attending UCF, GaTech and Baylor games during my time there. GaTech never fully won me over in football as FSU is king in the ACC. I cheer cheer for the Yellow Jackets but don’t passionately follow them. It’s hard to focus on Baylor football lately given the far more important off the field issues surrounding our program. Half my family went to UCF. I have been attending games (even before I really cared) at the citrus bowl since I was was a kid. I left Florida before the on campus stadium was finished.

But yes, you’re right I’m not a fan because I want a sustained future of success over a single season which amounted to nothing meaningful. The greatest season in school history results in no real post-season, losing the coach and little to no uptick in recruiting. Ups and downs on college sports come in cycles of graduation classes. The fall for UCF is soon to come and they have done nothing to capitlize on this recent success beyond short term fundraising.



You focus way too much on recruiting stars and rankings.


A constant stream of top 5 recruiting classes has absolutely nothing to do with Nick Saban’s Success.

One of the most incredible recruiting classes in the modern era had nothing to do with an FSU championship two years later.

Nope, not a thing.

This is the same logic that causes people to argue against tanking. Because gold can be found outside the top scout rankings and because busts occur at the top, the entire system is completely wrong, right? That isn’t how stats works ... you don’t fit your model to outliers. In this example, you enjoy the outliers when they work in your favor but you do not build a program around it.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1594 » by UCFJayBird » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:52 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
UCFJayBird wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Many of us support multiple teams throughout sports. I don’t have an NFL team and don’t follow baseball or hockey. I follow the Magic and college football.

I have been an FSU fan since I was a kid. But I greatly enjoyed attending UCF, GaTech and Baylor games during my time there. GaTech never fully won me over in football as FSU is king in the ACC. I cheer cheer for the Yellow Jackets but don’t passionately follow them. It’s hard to focus on Baylor football lately given the far more important off the field issues surrounding our program. Half my family went to UCF. I have been attending games (even before I really cared) at the citrus bowl since I was was a kid. I left Florida before the on campus stadium was finished.

But yes, you’re right I’m not a fan because I want a sustained future of success over a single season which amounted to nothing meaningful. The greatest season in school history results in no real post-season, losing the coach and little to no uptick in recruiting. Ups and downs on college sports come in cycles of graduation classes. The fall for UCF is soon to come and they have done nothing to capitlize on this recent success beyond short term fundraising.



You focus way too much on recruiting stars and rankings.


A constant stream of top 5 recruiting classes has absolutely nothing to do with Nick Saban’s Success.

One of the most incredible recruiting classes in the modern era had nothing to do with an FSU championship two years later.

Nope, not a thing.

This is the same logic that causes people to argue against tanking. Because gold can be found outside the top scout rankings and because busts occur at the top, the entire system is completely wrong, right? That isn’t how stats works ... you don’t fit your model to outliers. In this example, you enjoy the outliers when they work in your favor but you do not build a program around it.


I'm not saying they're not important, just saying for someone who claims to be looking at the big picture you're very demanding of short term results.

"UCF's claims of a championship are short sighted. Also, where's the immediately uptick and giant swing in recruiting? See? Claiming the title has done nothing for the program."
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1595 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:12 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
UCFJayBird wrote:

You focus way too much on recruiting stars and rankings.


A constant stream of top 5 recruiting classes has absolutely nothing to do with Nick Saban’s Success.

One of the most incredible recruiting classes in the modern era had nothing to do with an FSU championship two years later.

Nope, not a thing.

This is the same logic that causes people to argue against tanking. Because gold can be found outside the top scout rankings and because busts occur at the top, the entire system is completely wrong, right? That isn’t how stats works ... you don’t fit your model to outliers. In this example, you enjoy the outliers when they work in your favor but you do not build a program around it.


I'm not saying they're not important, just saying for someone who claims to be looking at the big picture you're very demanding of short term results.

"UCF's claims of a championship are short sighted. Also, where's the immediately uptick and giant swing in recruiting? See? Claiming the title has done nothing for the program."


Why do you think kids pick top programs over others?

They see success and want to follow it. The current success should be resulting in an uptick in recruiting among players who in years past would have ignored UCF. Those players eventually take over starting roles for the current players and (hopfully) the success of today is maintained to the next class and the cycle repeats itself again and again.

... that is a long term plan.

More likely however is that this current group will all soon graduate with very low chance of replacing them with players of equal impact and UCF soon returns to where they were a few seasons ago.
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Re: #16 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1596 » by drsd » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:05 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:More likely however is that this current group will all soon graduate with very low chance of replacing them with players of equal impact and UCF soon returns to where they were a few seasons ago.


The Knights is certain to be favored to win ever game here on, but the defense is not last years, and thus, I question how UCF can run the table.

You are correct that certain players are unreplaceable. Shaquem Griffin could be that player this year. His loss could be why UCF does not repeat with an undefeated season.


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Re: #13 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1597 » by UCF » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:11 pm

I think our D was more talented last year but our system this year is much better. With Milton back next year we’ll be just fine. Every school loses good players to graduation and new ones step up to replace them. This year Pat leaving the D is going to be a struggle to replace.
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Re: #13 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1598 » by UCF » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:35 am

Read on Twitter
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The program is doing terrible these days lol
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Re: #13 UCF [3-0]: vs PITT 

Post#1599 » by EAS Law » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:25 am

UCF wrote:I think our D was more talented last year but our system this year is much better. With Milton back next year we’ll be just fine. Every school loses good players to graduation and new ones step up to replace them. This year Pat leaving the D is going to be a struggle to replace.

Don’t forget Shaq who is also playing meaningful minutes in the NFL already. It would be great to see our defense improve this season. The offense is fun to watch, but so is watching INTs and fumble recoveries.
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Post#1600 » by craig01 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:34 am

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Read on Twitter
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The program is doing terrible these days lol


Many seat selling online for higher than face value as well.

But, oh, Ucf will be 0-12 in a couple of years. Lol
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