Gordon Hayward Thread

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I assumed the same from Larkin last season.

[La Flame]

Brad getting a healthy Hayward is like Picasso receiving a brand new paintbrush and a canvas

[Jaqua92]

I dont think expecting 2016-2017 Hayward is reasonable at this point in the season.

I'll be shocked if he makes the all star team this season. We dont know what this injury did to his explosivenees and his mind

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[celticfan42487]

I dont think expecting 2016-2017 Hayward is reasonable at this point in the season.

I'll be shocked if he makes the all star team this season. We dont know what this injury did to his explosivenees and his mind

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I hear you, and maybe we won't get that player. But we may get it stat wise.

We still need a secondary ballhandler next to Irving, and Hayward has done it as a #1 option. Seems like he's the choice for at least this year until Tatum is proven in that area.

And Hayward should get a lot of open shots which is his strength, or rather he'll get similar looks that he normally gets just with a lot less effort. Along with a much, much more open lane to the bucket assuming we start him or Tatum at the 4 with Horford and have 5 3 point threats on the court.

So while Hayward's ability to generate his own shot might not be up to his old standard... he may still get similar starts and make the East all-star. Putting up 20 ppg 4 rebounds 3 aspg taking Horford's reserve spot who just never has the numbers and now we'll have too many to put him on.

My quick East all-stars:

Starters: Embiid, Greek Freak, Kawhi, Dipo, Irving
Reserves: Simmons, Tatum, Hayward, Lowry, Love, last two spots goto a DET, WAS star, or Kemba or Horford

I could see Tatum missing it because he's young and will have his time so they might snub him. In that case due to record they'll just put Horford in instead of Tatum.

If I had to pick for the last two I'd assume it would be a Bradley Beal and Blake Griffin nod due to record. I don't think Kemba's record combined with his stats will be good enough to get the nod this year.

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[Andrew McCeltic]

Coming back after a year off is tough for anyone - and Paul George, who had a similar injury, admits he never got back the same explosiveness. It’s going to be interesting.

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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2018/09/kyrie_irving_boston_celtics_go.html

"Single-leg dunk," Hayward said, smiling. "Coach (Brad) Stevens said something in front of everybody, so it was good. I think it's still not still not there yet all the way. I think that's going to be the last piece and it'll come slowly throughout the year. More and more just playing and doing it. I think I've just got to keep doing it, but yeah, it's coming, it's coming along."

"I had actually asked if that was the first one," Stevens added, when asked about the dunk. "So the little secret though is he's never done that. He always was a right-footed jumper anyway, so I could probably count on one hand how many times I've seen him dunk off the left anyway. But it was obviously a big deal for him."

"I mean, think about how life has come full circle for me and Gordon," Irving said. "In 2014, I was his host in Cleveland when he was a restricted free agent. I met him and Robyn (Hayward's wife) then, and I think we are able to play together now, one year taken away from us. We're just making up for lost time. He's so talented, I'm a big fan. I was watching his highlights yesterday so I can't wait to see him play. I'm so happy for him. I've been waiting to play with a two-guard like Gordon. He's even-keeled the whole game. You are able to throw it to him and he's able to get you a bucket, but he's smart too."

[Diamantidis]

Fun interview with the PMT guys: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pardon-my-take/e/56427715?autoplay=true

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Hayward just signed a sneaker deal with Anta. Celtics must be pretty popular in China, considering they've signed KG, Rondo, and now Gord.

With that being said, Nike has 10 days to match the deal and keep him with the swoosh. If Anta paid up, I honestly don't see Nike bothering to match. They've already got Kyrie and Tatum rocking their shoes whenever the Celtics play.

[3D Chess]

Hayward just signed a sneaker deal with Anta. Celtics must be pretty popular in China, considering they've signed KG, Rondo, and now Gord.

With that being said, Nike has 10 days to match the deal and keep him with the swoosh. If Anta paid up, I honestly don't see Nike bothering to match. They've already got Kyrie and Tatum rocking their shoes whenever the Celtics play.

Never underestimate the Dad market bro!

[BillTheGOAT]

I was hoping new balance would sign him to a dad shoe line.

I would buy them.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Anta is kind of trash. I hated the KG's and Rondo only had like one pair that I liked which was the first one. Seemed like his feet always looked too big with the other ones on. I feel like people only sign for them when they are washed up and on the way down. Hopefully Nike matches but I doubt it..

Love Terry with Puma though..so glad he got that deal.

[Higgs Boston]

I don't know how good is anta but I'm glad he isn't signing with new balance, they make really minimalist and hard shoes, I tried indoor and running shoes and they were really uncomfortable.

[Jaqua92]

What I want to know, is how long Gordon was out of commission after his injury. Meaning how long was he bedridden without any sort of exercise or mobility?

I know he feels like he's ready to go and that's what he says but, I understand muscles atrophy and shrik really quickly.

I spent this summer, from June 15th to August 29th in the hospital with Guillain-Barre syndrome. It is an autoimmune disease in which the body produces antibodies that attack the nervous system and nerves instead of whatever virus has triggered the creation of these antibodies. Long story short, I went into respiratory failure and was completely paralyzed from head to toe pretty much until mid July when things started coming back.

Now, the final week in September I do have all my movement back. However I have significant weakness and tightness in most the muscles in my body. I have my complete Independence back, driving and everything else, however my legs are still very tight. At this point, this isn't neuropathy anymore. The muscle weakness and tightness was simply from not using them for so long. So being in a hospital and in physical and occupational therapy for a few months was enough for my muscles to atrophy and really shrink in length.

I'm probably about a month and a half to two months away from being able to run and play sports again. So what I'm wondering, is how long has Gordon been able to be mobile to the point where any sort of atrophy, tightness and weakness in ANY oh his muscles has been overcome to Baseline by now, since muscles breakdown and shortened so quickly?

I only ask because his recovery was slower than mine, so I'd imagine that even though his ankle is good, I would think there still would be a bit of lingering tightness in his hamstrings and hips?

Unless he started rehabing within a month of the injury?

I'm back now, and need 2 months of strengthening and stretching to get back to baseline after 2.5 months of generally not using the muscles, which puts my entire timeline at about 5 months.

Gordon's ankle healed slower than 2 and a half months. So I'm wondering if he has any lingering tightness or lack flexibility, despite being able to play.

Its shocking how fast muscles break down



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[Darth Celtic]

What I want to know, is how long Gordon was out of commission after his injury. Meaning how long was he bedridden without any sort of exercise or mobility?

I know he feels like he's ready to go and that's what he says but, I understand muscles atrophy and shrik really quickly.

I spent this summer, from June 15th to August 29th in the hospital with Guillain-Barre syndrome. It is an autoimmune disease in which the body produces antibodies that attack the nervous system and nerves instead of whatever virus has triggered the creation of these antibodies. Long story short, I went into respiratory failure and was completely paralyzed from head to toe pretty much until mid July when things started coming back.

Now, the final week in September I do have all my movement back. However I have significant weakness and tightness in most the muscles in my body. I have my complete Independence back, driving and everything else, however my legs are still very tight. At this point, this isn't neuropathy anymore. The muscle weakness and tightness was simply from not using them for so long. So being in a hospital and in physical and occupational therapy for a few months was enough for my muscles to atrophy and really shrink in length.

I'm probably about a month and a half to two months away from being able to run and play sports again. So what I'm wondering, is how long has Gordon been able to be mobile to the point where any sort of atrophy, tightness and weakness in ANY oh his muscles has been overcome to Baseline by now, since muscles breakdown and shortened so quickly?

I only ask because his recovery was slower than mine, so I'd imagine that even though his ankle is good, I would think there still would be a bit of lingering tightness in his hamstrings and hips?

Unless he started rehabing within a month of the injury?

I'm back now, and need 2 months of strengthening and stretching to get back to baseline after 2.5 months of generally not using the muscles, which puts my entire timeline at about 5 months.

Gordon's ankle healed slower than 2 and a half months. So I'm wondering if he has any lingering tightness or lack flexibility, despite being able to play.

Its shocking how fast muscles break down



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Yeah, I don't think GH was out as long as you. He started with strength rehabs fairly quick. I hope you get better. Isn't there a high profile NFL offensive lineman with the exact same thing? He's on IR with it.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I don't know how good is anta but I'm glad he isn't signing with new balance, they make really minimalist and hard shoes, I tried indoor and running shoes and they were really uncomfortable.

I'm glad he didn't sign with New Balance so we don't have to hear all the "Hahah, he signed with the KKK Brand" jokes.

[Jaqua92]

What I want to know, is how long Gordon was out of commission after his injury. Meaning how long was he bedridden without any sort of exercise or mobility?

I know he feels like he's ready to go and that's what he says but, I understand muscles atrophy and shrik really quickly.

I spent this summer, from June 15th to August 29th in the hospital with Guillain-Barre syndrome. It is an autoimmune disease in which the body produces antibodies that attack the nervous system and nerves instead of whatever virus has triggered the creation of these antibodies. Long story short, I went into respiratory failure and was completely paralyzed from head to toe pretty much until mid July when things started coming back.

Now, the final week in September I do have all my movement back. However I have significant weakness and tightness in most the muscles in my body. I have my complete Independence back, driving and everything else, however my legs are still very tight. At this point, this isn't neuropathy anymore. The muscle weakness and tightness was simply from not using them for so long. So being in a hospital and in physical and occupational therapy for a few months was enough for my muscles to atrophy and really shrink in length.

I'm probably about a month and a half to two months away from being able to run and play sports again. So what I'm wondering, is how long has Gordon been able to be mobile to the point where any sort of atrophy, tightness and weakness in ANY oh his muscles has been overcome to Baseline by now, since muscles breakdown and shortened so quickly?

I only ask because his recovery was slower than mine, so I'd imagine that even though his ankle is good, I would think there still would be a bit of lingering tightness in his hamstrings and hips?

Unless he started rehabing within a month of the injury?

I'm back now, and need 2 months of strengthening and stretching to get back to baseline after 2.5 months of generally not using the muscles, which puts my entire timeline at about 5 months.

Gordon's ankle healed slower than 2 and a half months. So I'm wondering if he has any lingering tightness or lack flexibility, despite being able to play.

Its shocking how fast muscles break down



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Yeah, I don't think GH was out as long as you. He started with strength rehabs fairly quick. I hope you get better. Isn't there a high profile NFL offensive lineman with the exact same thing? He's on IR with it.

Gotcha. Yes, there was. He must have had a minor case of it. He said 48 hrs after treatment he was feeling better. 48 hours after my 5 day treatment started, I wasnt even fully paralyzed. So there is crazy variability with how bad one gets it, and how quick one recovers.

But gotcha. I just cant shake this feeling that Gordon wont be playing at an all star level most this season until maybe the playoffs.

Hope I'm wrong

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[yazfan]

I am from Indy and a Butler fan so when Hayward was drafted by the Jazz I became a Jazz Fan,

I literally have watch EVERY Jazz game Hayward played thanks to NBA LP.

Few things are consistent.

1. Hayward looks checked out though he is not
2. Not a huge emotional guy.
3. Even when Healthy ALWAYS starts the season slow and literally ramps up month over month.
4. Very unselfish, at times too unselfish IMO but I think that is why guys like playing with him.
5. Next thing you know his stats are awesome and you didn't even notice it.


Now the Celtics are WAAAAY more talented than the Jazz so it will be interesting to see if Hayward lets others take theirs over his.
I must confess I do not know how teams decide who should take more shots, I assume they plan it out to an extent...

Hayward got paid, he will not be as concerned this year on his stats as I am sure others were.


He said recently he still doesn't have the liftoff off his left foot. That tells me he is 80% give or take.

It took Paul George almost 1 whole bad season to get beck to form. I honestly do not know what to expect from Hayward this year.

I just hope by the 2nd half of the season he is close to his old form.


Stinks for the Celtics.

Year1 - out injury
Year2 - getting back to form hopefully be the end of the year
Year3 - after this hopefully fully healthy season he can opt out ...(Maybe I am hopeful, but I hope he opts out , resigns with the Celtics at a Discount to keep the stars together.... Time will tell

[titlebound1]

I am from Indy and a Butler fan so when Hayward was drafted by the Jazz I became a Jazz Fan,

I literally have watch EVERY Jazz game Hayward played thanks to NBA LP.

Few things are consistent.

1. Hayward looks checked out though he is not
2. Not a huge emotional guy.
3. Even when Healthy ALWAYS starts the season slow and literally ramps up month over month.
4. Very unselfish, at times too unselfish IMO but I think that is why guys like playing with him.
5. Next thing you know his stats are awesome and you didn't even notice it.


Now the Celtics are WAAAAY more talented than the Jazz so it will be interesting to see if Hayward lets others take theirs over his.
I must confess I do not know how teams decide who should take more shots, I assume they plan it out to an extent...

Hayward got paid, he will not be as concerned this year on his stats as I am sure others were.


He said recently he still doesn't have the liftoff off his left foot. That tells me he is 80% give or take.

It took Paul George almost 1 whole bad season to get beck to form. I honestly do not know what to expect from Hayward this year.

I just hope by the 2nd half of the season he is close to his old form.


Stinks for the Celtics.

Year1 - out injury
Year2 - getting back to form hopefully be the end of the year
Year3 - after this hopefully fully healthy season he can opt out ...(Maybe I am hopeful, but I hope he opts out , resigns with the Celtics at a Discount to keep the stars together.... Time will tell

So are you a Celtics fan now?