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CROklahoma wrote:I loved everything Diallo showed as a rookie on the court.
He's already somewhat big, good hands, athletic, and agressive on both ends.
Like him a lot more than Ferguson ...
kdthunderup wrote:I expect our bench to be one of our bright spots this season once Westbrook returns. You will have Schroder leading the unit, Abrines spacing the floor, Grant and Noel locking down the paint and causing a lot turnovers and one of TLC, Ferguson, Diallo filling the other wing position.
Knrstz wrote:Hot take- Adams has gotten better. A lot.
slick_watts wrote:schroeder's defense is not good. i can't see how he will work with westbrook.
bondom34 wrote:Also hot take maybe: The bench might not be bad. Especially when Schroder gets bumped there. Yeah the wings stink but maybe depth fills some of the drop off there.
Pillendreher wrote:I was also glad that Burton got minutes. He looks like he might be one of the wing bench wings that can actually attack off the dribble.
Another thing I've noticed: It looks like Abrines is doing more things than just taking spot up 3s. He took a couple of 3s on the move (off curls, screens) and tried to find his teammates with passes (to Grant on the wing, trying an alley-oop with Noel) these first two games. We'll have to see if this is him expanding his offensive game or if it's just Donovan making him do things he cannot do.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
Knrstz wrote:Pillendreher wrote:I was also glad that Burton got minutes. He looks like he might be one of the wing bench wings that can actually attack off the dribble.
Another thing I've noticed: It looks like Abrines is doing more things than just taking spot up 3s. He took a couple of 3s on the move (off curls, screens) and tried to find his teammates with passes (to Grant on the wing, trying an alley-oop with Noel) these first two games. We'll have to see if this is him expanding his offensive game or if it's just Donovan making him do things he cannot do.
Pretty much agree with all of this. In most situations when Ferguson gets the ball he seems to get rid of it as quick as possible. I wouldn’t say he’s scared but he’s just a non factor. For a gun labeled as a shooter, so many of his threes seem way off to the left or right. Considering most of his shots are wide open, that’s concerning.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
Knrstz wrote:Also, as much as i want to believe Adams is improved, some of it is the pathetic defense of KAT. I struggle to buy in to the hype around towns. On multiple occasions hes been physically dominated by Adams. KAT normally puts up good numbers but he’s soft as charmin. I think having Wiggins next to him takes some of the heat off of him that he should be getting.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
Pillendreher wrote:Knrstz wrote:Pillendreher wrote:I was also glad that Burton got minutes. He looks like he might be one of the wing bench wings that can actually attack off the dribble.
Another thing I've noticed: It looks like Abrines is doing more things than just taking spot up 3s. He took a couple of 3s on the move (off curls, screens) and tried to find his teammates with passes (to Grant on the wing, trying an alley-oop with Noel) these first two games. We'll have to see if this is him expanding his offensive game or if it's just Donovan making him do things he cannot do.
Pretty much agree with all of this. In most situations when Ferguson gets the ball he seems to get rid of it as quick as possible. I wouldn’t say he’s scared but he’s just a non factor. For a gun labeled as a shooter, so many of his threes seem way off to the left or right. Considering most of his shots are wide open, that’s concerning.
You know, we just might be looking at a guy who's been on the Thunder for too long. You remember how Corey Brewer was moving off the ball and come April, he was just standing around the whole time? Maybe Freguson has fallen prey to that phenomenon as well and Burton and Diallo are still new enough to actually do something off the ball. Parking role players in the corner/on the wing and not having them do anything is not new with the Thunder.
But still: I just don't see it with Ferguson right now. He looks like he's just a warm body to put on the floor, nothing more, nothing less.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
Knrstz wrote:Also, as much as i want to believe Adams is improved, some of it is the pathetic defense of KAT. I struggle to buy in to the hype around towns. On multiple occasions hes been physically dominated by Adams. KAT normally puts up good numbers but he’s soft as charmin. I think having Wiggins next to him takes some of the heat off of him that he should be getting.
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Kizz Fastfists wrote:Keep in mind that Ferguson was the 3rd youngest player in the entire NBA last year and is still one of the 25 or so youngest players on a roster. Ferguson also had a higher eFG% and TS% than Kobe did as a rookie. Yes, I am higher on Ferguson than most and have no problems admitting it.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
spearsy23 wrote:I like Ferguson, I think he could be Danny greenesque, but this was just a ridiculous post. Using those measures he was better than Donovan Mitchell too!
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Ferguson was more efficient, using eFG% and TS% than Russ
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Knrstz wrote:Also, as much as i want to believe Adams is improved, some of it is the pathetic defense of KAT. I struggle to buy in to the hype around towns. On multiple occasions hes been physically dominated by Adams. KAT normally puts up good numbers but he’s soft as charmin. I think having Wiggins next to him takes some of the heat off of him that he should be getting.
That is why I think a trade along the lines of Adams, Abrines and Ferguson for Butler and Dieng makes sense. I don't think Minny would take Roberson as part of the package after the most recent set back when his career was already in serious question after the injury, but they might want him over Abrines given Thibs' love for defense. Adams would give Minny the toughness they need at center and KAT can play against "softer" PFs. Similar to Dirk who had the reputation for being soft early in his career because he couldn't bang in the paint. KAT has the stretch ability on offense to do that and the athleticism to guard PFs on defense.
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