Political Roundtable Part XXII

[stilldropin20]

Brett kavanaugh is a supreme court judge and will be for life!! get over it buddy! Another Trump victory. Another promise made and another promise kept. The most transparent president ever. Like Gorsuch, BK was picked off a list Trump made while a candidate. More candidates should be as transparent. And Donald trump will be your president for 6 more years. He promised to redo our entire court system and is doing so. He promised to rework and make better all of our trade deals and is making good on that. Nafta is already redone for significant improvements. He vowed early on to remove the threat in North Korea. Done!! He promised to put american back to work and bring jobs back. Done! He promised to lower taxes. Done!! No president has ever been able to deliver on this many campaign promises. He is almost completely out of promises!! they are all now accomplishments!! Only China left and they are in his cross hairs. When the dust settles, He will go down as the GOAT president of the modern era as I have said for ever 2 years. Fact!!

And he did all of that with a fake and phony contrived collusion investigation breathing down his neck for his first 2 years. This was Ali vs. foreman for 7 round of ropadope. Now Trump is finally going to be able to throw the big punches. Good luck liberals. You're going to need it.

That said, Brett K was not my choice but solely because he is a shill for big business. Something the completely asinine left ignored during the entire confirmation process. You terrible leaders chose to grandstand and make throw their hats into the 2020 presidential race instead of try to get something real on kavanaugh like being (anti) antitrust. That's something a real independent like me would have gotten behind!! Conservatives would have gotten behind that message too. Instead the left's game plan was to ignore anything and everything real and run with tabloid uncorroborated soap opera fodder from when BK was 16 years old!! Some "victim" perceived an assault in a bedroom 25 years ago!!?? And made $1million in the process? and got famous??? And you want me to believe that she is a victim??? really? You are worse than a fool. You are a damned fool!! She prolly hasn't been home because she is out picking out curtains for the new mansion in malibu! We'll see.

I'll make you lying, stanky azz, obnoxious liberals a deal. If she donates every single penny in all of her go fund me accounts to victims of sexual assault then i will delete my account and never post again. And if she doesn't then you delete yours and never post again. Who wants to take me up on that? That's what i thought!!!!!

Does this deal include your alt accounts as well? Considering that her life has been blown up, she's lost out on income I wouldn't be surprised to not see her donate all her GoFundMe funds to charity but let's change the terms to a significant portion of her go fund me and I'll take that deal.

STD you going to take this bet or are you all talk?

Seeing how I made, i'll take it!

Here's the parameters.

1. Blasey ford must donate at least 65% of all gofundme accounts to charities that are not her own nor to her own trust.
2. Blasey ford can not start up a non-profit and accept further donations.
3. If blasey ford can NOT accept a paid or unpaid position related to victims or survivors of sexual assault that further her fame. She can do the work. And she can get paid but she can NOT be in the spotlight nor advance her fame.
4. Blasey For can NOT write a book for money or to further her fame.
5. Blasey Ford can not advance her carerr for excessive high dollar amounts compared to her current pay. IE she can not enter the speech circuit. media circuit. etc.

In short. If she donates around $650,000 and goes back to her current job and stays low key, does not wite a book, and stay out of the media of her own volition, and off of the feminism circuit, you win! I'll leave. If she doesn't, i win. You leave. Forever. Are you in or are you a puzzy?

[gtn130]

The terms of that bet are obviously totally asinine, but look at the standard SD20 holds a sexual assault victim to while simultaneously excusing every last thing Donald J Trump has ever done. Deplorable is an understatement.

[Pointgod]

Does this deal include your alt accounts as well? Considering that her life has been blown up, she's lost out on income I wouldn't be surprised to not see her donate all her GoFundMe funds to charity but let's change the terms to a significant portion of her go fund me and I'll take that deal.

STD you going to take this bet or are you all talk?

Seeing how I made, i'll take it!

Here's the parameters.

1. Blasey ford must donate at least 65% of all gofundme accounts to charities that are not her own nor to her own trust.
2. Blasey ford can not start up a non-profit and accept further donations.
3. If blasey ford can NOT accept a paid or unpaid position related to victims or survivors of sexual assault that further her fame. She can do the work. And she can get paid but she can NOT be in the spotlight nor advance her fame.
4. Blasey For can NOT write a book for money or to further her fame.
5. Blasey Ford can not advance her carerr for excessive high dollar amounts compared to her current pay. IE she can not enter the speech circuit. media circuit. etc.

In short. If she donates around $650,000 and goes back to her current job and stays low key, does not wite a book, and stay out of the media of her own volition, and off of the feminism circuit, you win! I'll leave. If she doesn't, i win. You leave. Forever. Are you in or are you a puzzy?

what a joke. I see that despite your tough talk you’re just a weak little man. How about this. Let’s have the other posters on this thread set the parameters of the bet. That way you won’t run scared. I can’t belive you actually thought I’d take the garbage you wrote above seriously

[GhostofChenier]

SD20, this is my only account. I’m very happy for mods to cross reference my IP address with pointgod’s under the condition we do the same with you and GoC, although you’re *probably* capable of using a vpn

Doesn't matter - he hasn't been to Belarus or he would have known everyone speaks Russian there... caught (kind of like Kavanaugh )

We shar similar writing but only 65- 70% speech same.

We don’t speak Russian at home in capital, but half yes for business. Same
As Ukraine.

Belorusian is close to Ukraine ccheck and polish. Not Russian

[stilldropin20]

The terms of that bet are obviously totally asinine, but look at the standard SD20 holds a sexual assault victim to while simultaneously excusing every last thing Donald J Trump has ever done. Deplorable is an understatement.

victim my azz. of what? Awkward teenage drunken courtship? what she described is exactly what every single boy and girl experience at some point in their teens. A desire to fit in combined with a desire to explore and discover juxtaposed against a very modern yet extreme fear and guilt of doing exactly that. Mom, dad, and social norms born of religious piety and social conservatism have guilted us all from exploring at young ages. And for good reason. So we dont end up having children before we are ready or before necessary. 150 years ago both of them, the 16 year old Kavanaugh and the 15 year old blasey ford would likely have already been married and with children. Maybe to each other and maybe not. In many cultures and countries today they would still already be married or at least have children of not to each other then to another...again maybe with each other and maybe not.

So as americans we're confused. We're coddled much longer than the rest of our human species and by far margin. Our natural hormones still begin kick in around 13 or 14 based on millions of years of evolution and those hormones are telling us to mate and procreate at 14,15,16,17 years old. Or at least to explore. Societal norm and mom and dad are saying, NO! So We all end up very confused. Only in recent centuries has such a stable and caring culture emerged like what we have in the USA and now other countries around the globe and we have preserved childhood and prolonged the childhood into the 20's and perhaps even now into the 30's.



what i heard directly from blasey ford doesn't suggest she was any kind of victim of any kind of assault. I do understand that as time has passed she has a perceived a slight or has perceived an assault. That doesn't mean he assaulted her. At all.

I said this weeks ago and i have seen nor heard nothing that does sound anything less than 3 teenagers discovering and exploring and midway through it....guilt took over...or fear...or she just lost interest in the 2 drunken fools who were fumbling their way through some type of drunken awkward flirting/courtship. We have no idea and no evidence that suggest she was a victim of anything besides her severely distorted memory. Even what she describes, if we take it at face value as 100% true does not sound like assault. At all. It sounds like she was game. then lost interest. It took these guys a few seconds longer to understand she lost interest. They drunkenly fumbled around and fell on the ground. She got up and left. That's hardly assault. That's hardly anything. And there is still no evidence at all that BK is even the guy besides her terrible memory.

Here's the deal. If this thing happens tonight...in some dorm room or in some condo. Some girl and some guy hook up. minutes or less into the girl or guy wants to stop. They say no. and it takes a few seconds for the other guy or girl to process the rejection...it doesn't make it assault. I'm sorry but it doesn't. I dont know the exact time frame when it becomes assault...but the opposing party must be afforded some time to adjust to the new parameters.

For example...lets say the girl and guy both agree to penetration. and the guy is pumping away. She loses interest. and says stop as the guy is mid-thrust while thrusting away 8 thrusts per second. Does he have to stop mid thrust? In that exact thrust? if not what is his grace period? 1 thrust? 2 thrusts? I've already posed this question to multiple women who are avid liberals and fierce feminists and even they say the guy has at least "10-15 seconds" to adjust, to process...to make sure the girl isn't just saying stop doing it from that position and she want another position or to mount you, or stop thrusting and go down on her...etc.

And every single one of those feminist acknowledge that the women MUST speak up. She must do or say something indicating she wants the man to stop in order for it to be assault or rape or other. For me personally...i never have this issue. I engage in a ton of mental foreplay before i engage in sex and i dont have sex unless im being begged for it. Its second nature to me. It saves me from bull crap like this and makes it much more fun and enjoyable. but most guys are immature jackazzes and dont understand women so they dont know how to make a women beg for the dong and they aren't patient enough to enjoy the cat and mouse game and making a woman want you that badly. which makes them come harder and faster. basically, most guys are dorks. And awkward. and dont get it. And that was likely BK in a nutshell, an awkward unromantic unsexy dork. But being awkward dork is suppose to be cool these day. that and not showering. and dressing like a 17 year old bum. And bad breath. And being a broke ass beta male. its all the rage today. Im told.

here's a hint, learn how to get laid fellas. Thats starts with learning about women. Which starts with learning about human beings in general and really...learning about yourself. Stop being such little weasels and go do something.

[stilldropin20]

STD you going to take this bet or are you all talk?

Seeing how I made, i'll take it!

Here's the parameters.

1. Blasey ford must donate at least 65% of all gofundme accounts to charities that are not her own nor to her own trust.
2. Blasey ford can not start up a non-profit and accept further donations.
3. If blasey ford can NOT accept a paid or unpaid position related to victims or survivors of sexual assault that further her fame. She can do the work. And she can get paid but she can NOT be in the spotlight nor advance her fame.
4. Blasey For can NOT write a book for money or to further her fame.
5. Blasey Ford can not advance her carerr for excessive high dollar amounts compared to her current pay. IE she can not enter the speech circuit. media circuit. etc.

In short. If she donates around $650,000 and goes back to her current job and stays low key, does not wite a book, and stay out of the media of her own volition, and off of the feminism circuit, you win! I'll leave. If she doesn't, i win. You leave. Forever. Are you in or are you a puzzy?

what a joke. I see that despite your tough talk you’re just a weak little man. How about this. Let’s have the other posters on this thread set the parameters of the bet. That way you won’t run scared. I can’t belive you actually thought I’d take the garbage you wrote above seriously

let's hear your parameters. Recall. this entire bet is about preventing fame seeker from obstructing our government. specifically appointee confirmations.

What do you need to see from Blasey ford that proves she is NOT just another fame and/or fortune seeker willing to say anything?

keep in mind She's $1,000,000 wealthier since this event. She has literally "made" $1,000,000 in 2 weeks for writing a letter. its possible that she has earned other money already as well from this event.

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almost 10% of our annual deficit! Imagine that. Save almost 100 billion right here with a one time payment for $25 billion dollar wall? hmmm?

oh wait...who is that? oh yeah Huma abedein's husband. The closest assistant to HRC. Wow! I mean you just cant make this stuff up!! dems are so nasty. So filled with hate. So full of bullcrap. So full of fake solutions for the poor but really they just take advantage of the poor while pretending to help. how can anyone be fooled by them i dont understand. it is so easy to see right through them.

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[pancakes3]

re: SD's cavalier attitude towards sexual assault, i'm sure if some dude got on top of him and was thrusting away, he would probably wish the guy would stop when he said to stop, and not offer up a 10-15 second grace period.

hint: no means no, bro.

re: ford's gofundme page - there are 2 funds. one is for general costs and the other was specifically for security costs (because of the death threats). the general fund was set up by her neighbors (raised $500,000) and the security fund (raised $200,000) was set up by a third party, a georgetown law professor. fwiw, gofundme funds are taxed as gift-tax rates, and will only keep roughly 60% of the net proceeds - probably around $450,000.

and again, SD - don't @ me. i don't care about you, your thoughts, or what you think of me or my posts. i'm merely writing to correct your awful, awful posts for the benefit of the board at large.

[daoneandonly]

And why would any victim hire avennetti as her lawyer? Nothing more but notoriety.

Please tell me how hiring Avenatti has anything to do with whether a victim is credible or not. Avennatti can be criticized for how he handled Swetnick, but other than being an outspoken critic of Trump how does his involvement mean a victims not credible.

OOOOoooo I wanna play! Why would Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Kathy Shelton rally around a man with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him. And even admitted it? Must be for the notoriety. They must be full of it too. Let me not hear another word about Bill Clinton from you conservatives.

yeah because the countless millions of lawyers in the world could not have been had. But she goes for the porn star's lawyer who just had his 15 minutes of fame, yeah that's not even remotely suspicious

[montestewart]

Hey STD, a reminder about anti-Semitism, which you once again invoke with the "Soros collaborated with Nazis to persecute Jews" lie. Soros was 14 when the war ended. He was a child, facing death, he did what he was told. You could make the same lie about many Jews in and out of camps who did all manner of things in order to stay alive. Making fun of, demeaning, and using as political props and pawns Holocaust victims and survivors is its own special kind of Holocaust denial.

Holocaust denial, rape denial, science denial, racism denial, etc. At some point, denial of self may be all that's left, but you already started to remove the mirrors in your house, right?

[Pointgod]

Please tell me how hiring Avenatti has anything to do with whether a victim is credible or not. Avennatti can be criticized for how he handled Swetnick, but other than being an outspoken critic of Trump how does his involvement mean a victims not credible.

OOOOoooo I wanna play! Why would Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Kathy Shelton rally around a man with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him. And even admitted it? Must be for the notoriety. They must be full of it too. Let me not hear another word about Bill Clinton from you conservatives.

yeah because the countless millions of lawyers in the world could not have been had. But she goes for the porn star's lawyer who just had his 15 minutes of fame, yeah that's not even remotely suspicious

So what about the other two Kavanaugh accusers and multiple people willing to testify to the FBI to corroborate their stories? Why are you ignoring them.

[Pointgod]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

[daoneandonly]

OOOOoooo I wanna play! Why would Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Kathy Shelton rally around a man with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him. And even admitted it? Must be for the notoriety. They must be full of it too. Let me not hear another word about Bill Clinton from you conservatives.

yeah because the countless millions of lawyers in the world could not have been had. But she goes for the porn star's lawyer who just had his 15 minutes of fame, yeah that's not even remotely suspicious

So what about the other two Kavanaugh accusers and multiple people willing to testify to the FBI to corroborate their stories? Why are you ignoring them.

What makes these multiple ppl who can corroborate credible? because they say so? Why didn't the 2 women come out when Trump had Kavanaugh's name on the list of potential candidates, his face was plastered everywhere, why did Rameriez and Aventti's next project wait until they did? Are you saying the FBI did not do their due diligence and just breezed through it?

And last I checked, FBI and trump dont exactly see eye to eye, so doubt they'd be doing him any favors.

Your opinion seems to be is he's guilty, my opinion is this is an angry mob of the pro choicers who will do anything to keep their right to kill and not be accountable, even destroy someone's life, name, & family. Clearly one of us is wrong, but I say the chances all 3 women are true victims are as slim as it gets.

[Wizardspride]

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[verbal8]

And yet none of these allegations came up the what 35 years he was rising up? When he was involved in the Clinton scandal, no oen said, oh this guy is a hypocrite, he himself is a rapist? Nope, it only came out the second, the 11th hour, this guy could be appointed to the SCOTUS and possibly (keyword) take away a woman's right to kill her child.

There was so much hypocrisy a somewhat obscure player like Kavanaugh wasn't a big deal. The only reason Kavanaugh stands out at all is how much in the gutter he wanted to go and how hyper-partisan he was in the situation.

[dckingsfan]

yeah because the countless millions of lawyers in the world could not have been had. But she goes for the porn star's lawyer who just had his 15 minutes of fame, yeah that's not even remotely suspicious

So what about the other two Kavanaugh accusers and multiple people willing to testify to the FBI to corroborate their stories? Why are you ignoring them.

What makes these multiple ppl who can corroborate credible? because they say so? Why didn't the 2 women come out when Trump had Kavanaugh's name on the list of potential candidates, his face was plastered everywhere, why did Rameriez and Aventti's next project wait until they did? Are you saying the FBI did not do their due diligence and just breezed through it?

And last I checked, FBI and trump dont exactly see eye to eye, so doubt they'd be doing him any favors.

Your opinion seems to be is he's guilty, my opinion is this is an angry mob of the pro choicers who will do anything to keep their right to kill and not be accountable, even destroy someone's life, name, & family. Clearly one of us is wrong, but I say the chances all 3 women are true victims are as slim as it gets.

And there you have it... Pointgod, I told you there were many single issue voters (around abortion) that are happy to hold their noses for Trump regardless of how corrupt he is...

You can make it about any other issue... but that is what is going on here.

And here is there problem... as soon as it becomes single issue, that party will fade quickly.

[montestewart]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

STD's still here after being banned from every other RealGM board he's frequented, so obviously it takes a lot. The only person whose ban I really supported was Ace Ventura (or whatever his name was) who just yelled at people. Maybe that makes me a bad mod, but I prefer a forum where people are exposed to the logic or illogic of counterpoint. STD speaks truth of a sort, as many people really do think like he does. Recall the utter shock of so many on November 9, 2016, and dismiss as irrelevant that relentless illogic and unreality at your own peril.

[GhostofChenier]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

Mod here warned for laughing my religion and my English. I suggest they close tgbhs. Ruins basketball.

[daoneandonly]

So what about the other two Kavanaugh accusers and multiple people willing to testify to the FBI to corroborate their stories? Why are you ignoring them.

What makes these multiple ppl who can corroborate credible? because they say so? Why didn't the 2 women come out when Trump had Kavanaugh's name on the list of potential candidates, his face was plastered everywhere, why did Rameriez and Aventti's next project wait until they did? Are you saying the FBI did not do their due diligence and just breezed through it?

And last I checked, FBI and trump dont exactly see eye to eye, so doubt they'd be doing him any favors.

Your opinion seems to be is he's guilty, my opinion is this is an angry mob of the pro choicers who will do anything to keep their right to kill and not be accountable, even destroy someone's life, name, & family. Clearly one of us is wrong, but I say the chances all 3 women are true victims are as slim as it gets.

And there you have it... Pointgod, I told you there were many single issue voters (around abortion) that are happy to hold their noses for Trump regardless of how corrupt he is...

You can make it about any other issue... but that is what is going on here.

And here is there problem... as soon as it becomes single issue, that party will fade quickly.

And what's your point? People have a right to care about any number issues or just one issue if they so please. I never claimed otherwise, I live in MD born & bred, so my Presidential vote does not mean jack, but I voted Trump for this very reason, the SCOTUS. Do I agree with the majority of stuff he says and does? of course not, he's a pompous blow heart, but if his SCOTUS choices somehow, someway can get Roe v Wade overtutned, then yes, I'm damn proud of my vote.

And you mention corrupt, as if you are pretending the other option was not. The so called for the women, empowerment candidate that takes hundreds of millions of dollars from countries that oppress women and treat them like 2nd class citizens, yeah she's not dirty.

[dckingsfan]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

Mod here warned for laughing my religion and my English. I suggest they close tgbhs. Ruins basketball.

You should never laugh at your own religion. And you should never equate your religion with basketball. STD, that is where you continue to lose your logical place... God is beautiful. Basketball is beautiful. Basketball is God.