Political Roundtable Part XXII

[TGW]

Nikki Haley is out. She did a terrible job and was an embarrassment to America. I wonder who the next clown Trump is going to put in that position.

[verbal8]

Nikki Haley is out. She did a terrible job and was an embarrassment to America. I wonder who the next clown Trump is going to put in that position.

I am not going to argue that she was great by any stretch of the imagination, however she was something resembling competent.

Which grading on the ridiculously easy curve of the Trump administration makes here look adequate. It will be interesting to see her reasoning, assuming she doesn't take a "job" on Trump 2020.

As you allude to I really fear her replacement, especially given how little respect Trump has for the UN.

[stilldropin20]

Hey STD, a reminder about anti-Semitism, which you once again invoke with the "Soros collaborated with Nazis to persecute Jews" lie. Soros was 14 when the war ended. He was a child, facing death, he did what he was told. You could make the same lie about many Jews in and out of camps who did all manner of things in order to stay alive. Making fun of, demeaning, and using as political props and pawns Holocaust victims and survivors is its own special kind of Holocaust denial.

Holocaust denial, rape denial, science denial, racism denial, etc. At some point, denial of self may be all that's left, but you already started to remove the mirrors in your house, right?

whoa horsy. i still haven't posted one single anti semitic thing ever. In fact ive never had one single antisemitic thought ever in my life. nor do i feel anti anything excpet anti-wealth hoarding. I think allowing others to hoard wealth is stupid. and I dont like the hoarders. at all. I mention "bankers" because a group of greedy elites that have been able to hoard wealth due to their creation of central banks have emerged over the past 2 centuries as the wealthiest family on earth. And therefore the most powerful family on earth.

What is so weird. So odd. And So at odds with liberalism and socialism is the idea of hoarding. The whole purpose...the end goal is to redistribute wealth. So what you are really saying, monte, is that you are not really a liberal. You are not really a socialist. You are not really about fairness. YOU are not really about equality. And you have somehow equated the most egregious hoarders on the planet to a race and religion. Why? What in Gods name do the 2 have to do with each other? At all? And honestly...i have no idea what religion or ideology Soros is. I dont care. I thought he was greek to be honest. I still have not looked it up. because I DONT CARE!

What i do know about soros is that he is one of the 20 richest people on earth and appear dead set on destroying democracy. Why? I dont know. Yet he is not giving away his billions except to organization dead set on destroying america. He is not redistributing his own billions.

Soros is the bad guy. not me. I watched this board destroy brett kavanaugh for the past 3 weeks and we cant say bad word about george Soros? Thats insane!! Who cares if he was 15 or 16? You guys were ready to burn Brett Kavanaugh at the stake just 3 days ago for stuff he (might not have even done) when he was 16. The stuff Soros did was not good. nor was he being starved to death.

I seriously do not know how anyone can have a legitmate political discussion...in the hopes of making the world a better place without discussing wealth hoarders. <--I mean that's literally the whole point of this entire thread!!!!!!! redistribution of wealth!!!!!! So as to make the world more fair!!!! Isn't that the point????? Accept yourself for who you are. You want to take from those who have more and give to those who have less. So wake up and put your eyes on the real target. Guys like Soros. Like all the wealthy bankers. Bill gates, the rockefellors, Jeff bezos, even the guy worth 20 million down the street! Dont you want more of that money to be taxed? To pay for better education and healthcare for the poor?? Isnt that the point?

Or are we going to keep pretending that is the point and allow all the millionaires to keep hoarding wealth and tax the guy making 100k more??? <--Thats what you want, Monte??? That's your idea of fairness and equality? Basically a world where you have the elite wealth on one side and the poor on the other?? That's the world you want to live in???

[gtn130]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

In the pre-SD20 days, I got warned and had my post deleted for calling someone a cartoon character. Once SD20, a true believer deplorable, joined the mix, the thread went unmodded because Nate wasn't about to censor anyone on his team.

That said, I don't really care. People are human and biased. What does irritate me is that SD20 is allowed to post obviously fake 4chan tier propaganda.

[gtn130]

Nikki Haley is out. She did a terrible job and was an embarrassment to America. I wonder who the next clown Trump is going to put in that position.

I am not going to argue that she was great by any stretch of the imagination, however she was something resembling competent.

Which grading on the ridiculously easy curve of the Trump administration makes here look adequate. It will be interesting to see her reasoning, assuming she doesn't take a "job" on Trump 2020.

As you allude to I really fear her replacement, especially given how little respect Trump has for the UN.

I fear her replacement too, but I also don't want to normalize GWB style Republicans who are not at all good or acceptable in their own right.

[stilldropin20]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

In the pre-SD20 days, I got warned and had my post deleted for calling someone a cartoon character. Once SD20, a true believer deplorable, joined the mix, the thread went unmodded because Nate wasn't about to censor anyone on his team.

That said, I don't really care. People are human and biased. What does irritate me is that SD20 is allowed to post obviously fake 4chan tier propaganda.

say the one guy pretending to be 2 guys who is banned from the CA board himself.

[dckingsfan]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

In the pre-SD20 days, I got warned and had my post deleted for calling someone a cartoon character. Once SD20, a true believer deplorable, joined the mix, the thread went unmodded because Nate wasn't about to censor anyone on his team.

That said, I don't really care. People are human and biased. What does irritate me is that SD20 is allowed to post obviously fake 4chan tier propaganda.

Add to that the flat out lies and false logic and faux accounts... and you have something "special".

[verbal8]

It seems fairly amicable with Haley leaving, she is staying until the end of the year.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nikki-haley-resign-u-n-ambassador-152258353.html

I think she might be getting out before things either diplomatically or with the Mueller investigation get significantly worse. They might have also wanted to time the announcement, so it doesn't seem in response to mid-terms.

[stilldropin20]

you know...i'm kind of confused at this point. where each of you stand. I think we need a role call with your stated political goals.

You should state your name.

1. political affiliation.
2. state your 5 main services for your local, state, and federal government. Include the types of services that you feel your local, state, and federal government should provide.
3. State how the tax system federal and real estate should pay for those services. and list your ideal tax code.
4. are you a globalist or a nationalist. or other?
5. do you believe in peace through strength or peace through appeasement?

[montestewart]

So mods what does it take to get a ban or at least a warning on here? Is it demeaning sexual assault survivors? Is it post anti semetic memes and conspiracy theories? Asking for a a friend.

In the pre-SD20 days, I got warned and had my post deleted for calling someone a cartoon character. Once SD20, a true believer deplorable, joined the mix, the thread went unmodded because Nate wasn't about to censor anyone on his team.

That said, I don't really care. People are human and biased. What does irritate me is that SD20 is allowed to post obviously fake 4chan tier propaganda.

say the one guy pretending to be 2 guys who is banned from the CA board himself.

For the record, I don't think GTN130 has ever been banned from any board at RealGM.

The CA board has its own rules, much different than the rules here. I try to respect those rules when I visit, and ask others here to do the same if they visit and post there.

[stilldropin20]

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[pancakes3]

Nikki Haley is out. She did a terrible job and was an embarrassment to America. I wonder who the next clown Trump is going to put in that position.

paves the road for Sessions to get booted as AG, Graham filling the role, Haley filling the Senate seat, and Ivanka as UN ambassador.

[Pointgod]

So what about the other two Kavanaugh accusers and multiple people willing to testify to the FBI to corroborate their stories? Why are you ignoring them.

What makes these multiple ppl who can corroborate credible? because they say so? Why didn't the 2 women come out when Trump had Kavanaugh's name on the list of potential candidates, his face was plastered everywhere, why did Rameriez and Aventti's next project wait until they did? Are you saying the FBI did not do their due diligence and just breezed through it?

And last I checked, FBI and trump dont exactly see eye to eye, so doubt they'd be doing him any favors.

Your opinion seems to be is he's guilty, my opinion is this is an angry mob of the pro choicers who will do anything to keep their right to kill and not be accountable, even destroy someone's life, name, & family. Clearly one of us is wrong, but I say the chances all 3 women are true victims are as slim as it gets.

And there you have it... Pointgod, I told you there were many single issue voters (around abortion) that are happy to hold their noses for Trump regardless of how corrupt he is...

You can make it about any other issue... but that is what is going on here.

And here is there problem... as soon as it becomes single issue, that party will fade quickly.

Well let's see what happens. The Republicans have definitely painted themselves into a box by only appealing to the white male. Yeah it's a diminishing voter segment but I don't doubt that the Republicans would cheat lie and steal to maintain power and I also remember 53% of white women voted for Trump.

[Pointgod]

What makes these multiple ppl who can corroborate credible? because they say so? Why didn't the 2 women come out when Trump had Kavanaugh's name on the list of potential candidates, his face was plastered everywhere, why did Rameriez and Aventti's next project wait until they did? Are you saying the FBI did not do their due diligence and just breezed through it?

And last I checked, FBI and trump dont exactly see eye to eye, so doubt they'd be doing him any favors.

Your opinion seems to be is he's guilty, my opinion is this is an angry mob of the pro choicers who will do anything to keep their right to kill and not be accountable, even destroy someone's life, name, & family. Clearly one of us is wrong, but I say the chances all 3 women are true victims are as slim as it gets.

And there you have it... Pointgod, I told you there were many single issue voters (around abortion) that are happy to hold their noses for Trump regardless of how corrupt he is...

You can make it about any other issue... but that is what is going on here.

And here is there problem... as soon as it becomes single issue, that party will fade quickly.

And what's your point? People have a right to care about any number issues or just one issue if they so please. I never claimed otherwise, I live in MD born & bred, so my Presidential vote does not mean jack, but I voted Trump for this very reason, the SCOTUS. Do I agree with the majority of stuff he says and does? of course not, he's a pompous blow heart, but if his SCOTUS choices somehow, someway can get Roe v Wade overtutned, then yes, I'm damn proud of my vote.

And you mention corrupt, as if you are pretending the other option was not. The so called for the women, empowerment candidate that takes hundreds of millions of dollars from countries that oppress women and treat them like 2nd class citizens, yeah she's not dirty.

Oh wow more Clinton conspiracies. You could have put that at the beginning of your first post so I'd know that you shouldn't be taken seriously.

[GhostofChenier]

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[daoneandonly]

And there you have it... Pointgod, I told you there were many single issue voters (around abortion) that are happy to hold their noses for Trump regardless of how corrupt he is...

You can make it about any other issue... but that is what is going on here.

And here is there problem... as soon as it becomes single issue, that party will fade quickly.

And what's your point? People have a right to care about any number issues or just one issue if they so please. I never claimed otherwise, I live in MD born & bred, so my Presidential vote does not mean jack, but I voted Trump for this very reason, the SCOTUS. Do I agree with the majority of stuff he says and does? of course not, he's a pompous blow heart, but if his SCOTUS choices somehow, someway can get Roe v Wade overtutned, then yes, I'm damn proud of my vote.

And you mention corrupt, as if you are pretending the other option was not. The so called for the women, empowerment candidate that takes hundreds of millions of dollars from countries that oppress women and treat them like 2nd class citizens, yeah she's not dirty.

Oh wow more Clinton conspiracies. You could have put that at the beginning of your first post so I'd know that you shouldn't be taken seriously.

What conspiracy exactly? Do you comprehend what that word even means? Cause it has no basis here, she says she's for women, yet takes millions form countries that treat women like dog food, doesn't sound like any conspiracy, just hypocrisy.

[daoneandonly]

What makes these multiple ppl who can corroborate credible? because they say so? Why didn't the 2 women come out when Trump had Kavanaugh's name on the list of potential candidates, his face was plastered everywhere, why did Rameriez and Aventti's next project wait until they did? Are you saying the FBI did not do their due diligence and just breezed through it?

And last I checked, FBI and trump dont exactly see eye to eye, so doubt they'd be doing him any favors.

Your opinion seems to be is he's guilty, my opinion is this is an angry mob of the pro choicers who will do anything to keep their right to kill and not be accountable, even destroy someone's life, name, & family. Clearly one of us is wrong, but I say the chances all 3 women are true victims are as slim as it gets.

And there you have it... Pointgod, I told you there were many single issue voters (around abortion) that are happy to hold their noses for Trump regardless of how corrupt he is...

You can make it about any other issue... but that is what is going on here.

And here is there problem... as soon as it becomes single issue, that party will fade quickly.

Well let's see what happens. The Republicans have definitely painted themselves into a box by only appealing to the white male. Yeah it's a diminishing voter segment but I don't doubt that the Republicans would cheat lie and steal to maintain power and I also remember 53% of white women voted for Trump.

Yeah thats not a generalization, actually No. I'm an Indian male and I find the conservative side speaks much more to me than the liberal on most cases. This graph is telling, in that the abortions under any circumstance should be as close to zero as possible, with the thought process being when you have a conscious it's not okay to kill a child just because whoops we didn't mean to get pregnant. But i guess the dems don't see it that way.

[pancakes3]

having a pro-life stance doesn't explain or justify why kavannaugh specifically had to be confirmed to the court, specifically the validity of the accusations against him or his fitness for office.

[daoneandonly]

having a pro-life stance doesn't explain or justify why kavannaugh specifically had to be confirmed to the court, specifically the validity of the accusations against him or his fitness for office.

Fitness for the office? The man is just as qualified to be a SCOTUS as the democratic proclaimed most qualified person to ever run for president Hillary was to be POTUS.

Claims/accusations, etc, coming out of left field when someone is about to be confirmed shouldn't automatically disqualify someone either, because they are just that, claims.

[Pointgod]

And what's your point? People have a right to care about any number issues or just one issue if they so please. I never claimed otherwise, I live in MD born & bred, so my Presidential vote does not mean jack, but I voted Trump for this very reason, the SCOTUS. Do I agree with the majority of stuff he says and does? of course not, he's a pompous blow heart, but if his SCOTUS choices somehow, someway can get Roe v Wade overtutned, then yes, I'm damn proud of my vote.

And you mention corrupt, as if you are pretending the other option was not. The so called for the women, empowerment candidate that takes hundreds of millions of dollars from countries that oppress women and treat them like 2nd class citizens, yeah she's not dirty.

Oh wow more Clinton conspiracies. You could have put that at the beginning of your first post so I'd know that you shouldn't be taken seriously.

What conspiracy exactly? Do you comprehend what that word even means? Cause it has no basis here, she says she's for women, yet takes millions form countries that treat women like dog food, doesn't sound like any conspiracy, just hypocrisy.

Okay then. Show me proof where Hillary Clinton personally got millions of dollars from countries. You know you can’t just say something without proof or evidence right?