Political Roundtable Part XXIII

[stilldropin20]

Remember when you used to say you weren't into this kind of drama even a little bit? Guess what - you lied. Shocking!

It is sooooo stupid u have 2 laugh lolz. Laugh she is like dolezal v1

What's stupid and fn pathetic is that SD20 is so insecure that he felt the need to create a persona that speaks like a gdf'n moron psychofant to back him up. So now SD can say there's one poster here who doesn't think he's a complete f'n loser. How ya doin' SD? Ohhhh, I don't really care, champ. On you and ghost go to ignore, so I'll never here you again. Post away into nothingness.

what? what happened, bro? R U Ok? Wait. Don't tell me you pinned your hopes on creep porn lawyer taking down trump?

and for the last time GOC is NOT me. seriosuly, monste or nate can IP check.

[gtn130]

Conservative logic = but but Hillary. The ultimate conservative boogie man. Spare me.

And Liberal logic = wha wha judgmental Christians, insecure old white men, wha wha. You're the one that tried to call out me voting for Trump with "unmitigated gall", Hillary was a huge reason why I did

Dude wtf does Hillary have to do with Trump excusing the Saudi execution of a WaPo journalist?

You’re not remotely bothered by the current event yet you ARE worked up about Hillary who is not president and never did anything like that.

[Pointgod]

bill clinton 49 years old. lewinski barely 22 . sad.

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You supports rapists like Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh and pedophiles like Roy Moore. You can shut up now.

I think he just saying u r 100% hypocrisy? u should attack both if you believe.

No one ccareas it is politic. Just stop lying about stupid thingsz.

Did Bill Clinton rape Monica Lewinsky? Was she also underage? If not again shut up. You have a better argument bringing up Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers.

[stilldropin20]

amazeballz painting!! dont look now but CNN might be getting its sense of humor back!!

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[GhostofChenier]

Remember when you used to say you weren't into this kind of drama even a little bit? Guess what - you lied. Shocking!

It is sooooo stupid u have 2 laugh lolz. Laugh she is like dolezal v1

What's stupid and fn pathetic is that SD20 is so insecure that he felt the need to create a persona that speaks like a gdf'n moron psychofant to back him up. So now SD can say there's one poster here who doesn't think he's a complete f'n loser. How ya doin' SD? Ohhhh, I don't really care, champ. On you and ghost go to ignore, so I'll never here you again. Post away into nothingness.

You are so child. Lite. Up.

[doclinkin]

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The actual correction:

Correction: Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 6th to 10th generation relative. The generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

And as for what she actually claimed:

Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

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Bustamante also compared Warren’s DNA to white populations in Utah and Great Britain to determine if the amounts of Native American markers in Warren’s sample were significant or just background noise.

Warren has 12 times more Native American blood than a white person from Great Britain and 10 times more than a white person from Utah, the report found.

Far more true than, say, Trump claiming he is a self-made millionaire. Its only an issue because Trump shouts about it. Nobody else cares. Being a fraud himself he shouts that everyone else is. Assumes that since he lies and cheats everybody else must be.

In Warrren's case she was proud that she had Native blood, according to family stories. It helped steer her politics, that we ought to be caretakers of future generations and not simply rip off the folks with the least power and quietest voices. Don't sell off our land and people to corporations, bankers, and billionaires, but to use governance to look out for the working folk.

For someone who claims to hate the banking industry SD20 I'd suggest you take a more careful look at her voting record and spoken aims. She's one who has thought carefully about how to return power to the voters instead of those who are bankrolling politicians to protect Big Money. She is definitely pissing off the right people, seems to me.

[gtn130]

When SD20 talks about (((bankers))) he’s talking about jews. Warren would be his dream candidate if he actually believed anything he wrote

[stilldropin20]

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The actual correction:

Correction: Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 6th to 10th generation relative. The generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

And as for what she actually claimed:

Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

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Bustamante also compared Warren’s DNA to white populations in Utah and Great Britain to determine if the amounts of Native American markers in Warren’s sample were significant or just background noise.

Warren has 12 times more Native American blood than a white person from Great Britain and 10 times more than a white person from Utah, the report found.

Far more true than, say, Trump claiming he is a self-made millionaire. Its only an issue because Trump shouts about it. Nobody else cares. Being a fraud himself he shouts that everyone else is. Assumes that since he lies and cheats everybody else must be.

In Warrren's case she was proud that she had Native blood, according to family stories. It helped steer her politics, that we ought to be caretakers of future generations and not simply rip off the folks with the least power and quietest voices. Don't sell off our land and people to corporations, bankers, and billionaires, but to use governance to look out for the working folk.

For someone who claims to hate the banking industry SD20 I'd suggest you take a more careful look at her voting record and spoken aims. She's one who has thought carefully about how to return power to the voters instead of those who are bankrolling politicians to protect Big Money. She is definitely pissing off the right people, seems to me.

i actually like warren. Especially for her anti banking stance. I also dont mind her and bernies new health care plan because they are finally addressing dental insurance for all...because i work in a poor community i see first hand how many people could use dental insurance that cant afford it. But reimbursement rates MUST be at least 70 cents on the dollar or it is just another lie on the american people. So there are some things about warren i like.


but warren is making a fool out of herself with this native american thing. I cant believe she didn't let this go when she found out how low that % is. I remember when i was in dental school. we had these 2 guys, twins...get free tuition claiming to be native. and maybe they were. but they were super duper white guys. very light blonde hair, very light blue eyes. germanic last name. And there i was a real native american with an actual native great grandmother and i chose to pay full tuition because i was more white than native. And I have olive skin, dark eyes, and dark hair. But being dentists and native americans, we bonded. they were also athletes in college at mizu and we played on a club bball team together in st louis. Those guys got free tuition and even extra money. i lost touch but they now prolly own a "minority owned" business right now...and the public doesn't know better so they can get away with it. But almost everyone in dental school hated those 2 except me. I was one of their rare friends and I believed them...kind of an elizabeth warren story but i believed it...but i always thought to myself...why?? Why guys?? you're as white as anyone ive ever seen. I'm talking Swedish or Norwegian type white. Why are you claiming native and getting the free stuff? They also got into a (hard to get into) specialty for white males. so they likely benefitted there too. You can maybe pull that crap in dental school, or med school, or law school, but politics? running for president? no way...people aint gonna go for it. She should know better. and if she doesn't she has no business being president.

[pancakes3]

f8ck off, sd.

[stilldropin20]

When SD20 talks about (((bankers))) he’s talking about jews. Warren would be his dream candidate if he actually believed anything he wrote

. absolutely false on "bankers."

There are things about warren i like. Lots of things. This whole native american thing shows me she is a poor leader and possibly tone deaf.

But mostly I dont like her approach. She has a victimhood mentality instead of a victor mentality. Look, i want a politician to take on the banks. To take on big tech. big pharma. and global wealth and to redistribute the wealth. But not from a victimhood approach. it wont work. and anybody with that approach will end up a false profit. Too weak. The only approach to take is to tackle it head on. like a trump.

look trump has almost everything right. Trump is Mr right, for right now. right now its about:

1. trade, good trade policies that brings jobs back, about limiting immigration so as to not over saturate unskilled labor or any labor market. <--that's the path to increased wages.

2. tax policies that brings back wealth to our markets so we can tax that wealth.

Next it is about forcing(or face severe penalties) american wealth to remain in our markets so as to keep taxing it.

after that it is about increasing taxes on the wealthiest elites and elite corporate wealth and/or a death tax (including foundations and trusts).

^^^^that's our focus...thats our walk and chew gum. Those are our rate determining steps. Do those things and we all will be able to afford our own damn healthcare.

[doclinkin]

i actually like warren. Especially for her anti banking stance. I also dont mind her and bernies new health care plan because they are finally addressing dental insurance for all...because i work in a poor community i see first hand how many people could use dental insurance that cant afford it. But reimbursement rates MUST be at least 70 cents on the dollar or it is just another lie on the american people. So there are some things about warren i like.

And that's the point that matters. Don't get distracted by the shell game that tries to deflect from the actual issues by making it about name calling and personality issues. Pointless. I agree by the way, teeth are part of your body, I never understood how health insurance got to escape treating people's teeth. Why is the fuel delivery intake apparatus considered alien and apart from the body itself. It's loopy.

Teeth are kinda badass when I think about it. You're born without them, they have to rip through your own flesh before they can be used. Chewing your own self first. Then you learn to shear and crush meat and bones with them, churning once-living beings into a pulpy slurry that can be forced down your suckhole without choking. Then they fall out in a bloody mess and are stolen by wee magic creatures who sneak into your house and pay you a negligible sum for this armored bone weapon. If they grow unruly you have to restrain them with a metal fence to force them into line. And to ensure they are properly trained they are inspected by some nutjob quarter-rican who claims background as naval intelligence officer who has to poke them with steel hooks while jabbering in your ear his wild conspiracy theories. And if they have a problem, its needles and drills or failing that, ripping them out of your face leaving a gory socket behind. A guy would have to be crazy to choose a life dealing with those things.

[stilldropin20]

i actually like warren. Especially for her anti banking stance. I also dont mind her and bernies new health care plan because they are finally addressing dental insurance for all...because i work in a poor community i see first hand how many people could use dental insurance that cant afford it. But reimbursement rates MUST be at least 70 cents on the dollar or it is just another lie on the american people. So there are some things about warren i like.

And that's the point that matters. Don't get distracted by the shell game that tries to deflect from the actual issues by making it about name calling and personality issues. Pointless. I agree by the way, teeth are part of your body, I never understood how health insurance got to escape treating people's teeth. Why is the fuel delivery intake apparatus considered alien and apart from the body itself. It's loopy.

Teeth are kinda badass when I think about it. You're born without them, they have to rip through your own flesh before they can be used. Chewing your own self first. Then you learn to shear and crush meat and bones with them, churning once-living beings into a pulpy slurry that can be forced down your suckhole without choking. Then they fall out in a bloody mess and are stolen by wee magic creatures who sneak into your house and pay you a negligible sum for this armored bone weapon. If they grow unruly you have to restrain them with a metal fence to force them into line. And to ensure they are properly trained they are inspected by some nutjob quarter-rican who claims background as naval intelligence officer who has to poke them with steel hooks while jabbering in your ear his wild conspiracy theories. And if they have a problem, its needles and drills or failing that, ripping them out of your face leaving a gory socket behind. A guy would have to be crazy to choose a life dealing with those things.

solid! monte and I got a thing waiting for you in the poetry thread.

[GhostofChenier]

[GhostofChenier]

Lol!!!

[GhostofChenier]

Lolz this lady is good for comedy

[GhostofChenier]

Lolz she got tricked

[daoneandonly]

You're a walking talking point. Baby Killers! Blaaaaah!!! You're not worth debating. I didn't vote for or support Hillary Clinton.

So then why call out people who voted for Trump? there were only 2 realistic candidates on the balot, both were severely flawed and undeserving of the office, but that's the hand we were dealt

For the record, I was on team kasich the whole time

I already laid that out for you. I have no problem if you voted for Trump because you hated Clinton, but you have no ground to lecture ANYONE on morality. All you have is But But Hillary because deep down all of you know you've put a corrupt, morally bankrupt con man in office and you have to justify that some way some how.

We were talking about a DNA test and you've twisted and turned, provided no facts or evidence to back up your points so when you can't defend anything you're go to move is "Baby Killers!!!"

Sad.

Actually, you're the one that felt the need to take the convo to something else and call names, and all of things, climate change, so don't act as if I veered the conversation to something else:

We're dealing with the type of people that would throw a snowball into the middle of a room and claim global warming isn't real. But it's what we have to deal with. No surprise that the majority of conservatives are uneducated. Does that make me an elitist? Sure why not. Suck it up snowflakes.

[daoneandonly]

Conservative logic = but but Hillary. The ultimate conservative boogie man. Spare me.

And Liberal logic = wha wha judgmental Christians, insecure old white men, wha wha. You're the one that tried to call out me voting for Trump with "unmitigated gall", Hillary was a huge reason why I did

Dude wtf does Hillary have to do with Trump excusing the Saudi execution of a WaPo journalist?

You’re not remotely bothered by the current event yet you ARE worked up about Hillary who is not president and never did anything like that.

When and how did he excuse it? I'm not a Trump apologist, but last I heard he said there will be hell to pay if Saudis are found guilty

Whereas Hilalry, the champion for women, had no issue with her named foundation taking money from them, who just released a propaganda video patting themselves on the back for letting women drive, yeah wow, they come a long way, they just let women drive now.

[Pointgod]

And Liberal logic = wha wha judgmental Christians, insecure old white men, wha wha. You're the one that tried to call out me voting for Trump with "unmitigated gall", Hillary was a huge reason why I did

Dude wtf does Hillary have to do with Trump excusing the Saudi execution of a WaPo journalist?

You’re not remotely bothered by the current event yet you ARE worked up about Hillary who is not and never did anything like that.

When and how did he excuse it? I'm not a Trump apologist, but last I heard he said there will be hell to pay if Saudis are found guilty

Whereas Hilalry, the champion for women, had no issue with her named foundation taking money from them, who just released a propaganda video patting themselves on the back for letting women drive, yeah wow, they come a long way, they just let women drive now.

Trump just yesterday was giving the Saudis cover by claiming it was a “rogue” faction that killed the journalist. Anyone that knows anything about Saudi Arabia knows this is bull. You are absolutely a Trump apologist when you keep bringing up Clinton when she’s not relevant to the conversation.

[queridiculo]

When and how did he excuse it? I'm not a Trump apologist, but last I heard he said there will be hell to pay if Saudis are found guilty

Whereas Hilalry, the champion for women, had no issue with her named foundation taking money from them, who just released a propaganda video patting themselves on the back for letting women drive, yeah wow, they come a long way, they just let women drive now.

Your inconsistency is maddening, you're quite clearly a Trump apologists, that's all you **** do.

The Clinton FOUNDATION may have taken money, but to what end is that any worse than backing, supporting and heavily endorsing a saudi mad man posing as reformer?

You say Trump is going to hold Mohammed bin Salman accountable, bull **** ****.

Trump himself has already given him a convenient out by floating the idea of rogue operatives, while also making it abundantly clear that he has no intention to alter any of the parameters of the Saudi weapons deal.

The Saudi's response? An expected admission to be released claiming an interrogation gone wrong.

A claim that quite obviously flies in the face of the facts. You don't send a secret 15 person delegation that includes a forensic specialist and autopsy expert to an interrogation.

Trump is everything you claim the Clinton's are, morally corrupt, entirely self serving and a serial liar without a moral compass.