PG Portland - Backcourt Domination

[BJ Sandered]

I missed the first half, but the Trail Blazers just wouldn't miss tonight and Bledsoe and Brogdon pretty much sucked ass from what I saw and heard.

[ibanezjp]

We didn't do anything wrong tonight. Portland just made a ton of terrible shots. It happens sometimes.

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Makes sense. I kept thinking the whole time watching the game, why are we losing, we’re doing a lot of things right. Only thing I could come up with was CJ just way too hot. Didn’t realize he had 40 until looking at the box after the game. I thought they adjusted much earlier than the Boston game with the open 3’s and even had that little 2-3 zone look. Didn’t seem like it during the game but just looking at the final score and that has the be the lowest point total we’ve had all year right? I don’t know what our average is but it has to be like 124/game. Just frustrating because I just kept saying to myself during the game “why aren’t we pulling away like we’ve been.” We probably have to win tomorrow to go 2-2 because that back to back LA to DEN seems impossible to sweep.

[Magic Giannison]

I missed the first half, but the Trail Blazers just wouldn't miss tonight and Bledsoe and Brogdon pretty much sucked ass from what I saw and heard.

Offensively we were good for the msot part its defensively were we got absolutely destroyed.
they kept picking on our slow Bigs and forcing our guards bumping into their centers on every PNR.

They got TONS of wide open looks

[skones]

Guys like Turner, McCollum, and even Aminu in the end were hitting tough, contested looks, it happens. That's not getting "destroyed" defensively.

[Willie Colon]

Can someone explain me why we tried to run at the paint in the last 4-5 minutes ? Its like Kidd took over and we reverted to bad days all of sudden

Happened against Boston too.

[HKPackFan]

We didn't do anything wrong tonight. Portland just made a ton of terrible shots. It happens sometimes.

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Well that's my question, that's always been my question with this 3>2 thingy
A mid range shot is supposed to be a terrible shot to be avoided at all costs, but if it's someone like McCollum taking it, and he's wide open, is it really terrible? Coz this guy can make 100 of those before missing. And he's not the only one, every 2nd or 3rd team in the NBA has a guy like that. What % do you need to shoot from 3 to beat that?

I think it is an overall general strategy, but I think some adjustments are required when encountering certain players, however, it seems bud is still laying the ground work on the fundamentals defense and won't implement next level stuff until he feels the basics are implemented.

At least that is what I'm telling myself.

[Pachinko_]

Makes sense. I kept thinking the whole time watching the game, why are we losing, we’re doing a lot of things right. Only thing I could come up with was CJ just way too hot. Didn’t realize he had 40 until looking at the box after the game.

more too open than too hot

[thomchatt3rton]

I'm starting to sour on Giannis. He's not perfect and I don't think he'll ever be at this point.

I think there's something seriously wrong with your expectations.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

[Magic Giannison]

Can someone explain me why we tried to run at the paint in the last 4-5 minutes ? Its like Kidd took over and we reverted to bad days all of sudden

Happened against Boston too.

Pretty much when we play good teams we just panic and revert to old habbits or something.

[skones]

The defense is awful because McCollum dropped 40 and shot the ball really well yet Lillard goes 5-15 and was a total non-factor all night.

Guys make shots. Teams lose games. This is the NBA.

We're 8-2. The sky is not falling.

[Magic Giannison]

The defense is awful because McCollum dropped 40 and shot the ball really well yet Lillard goes 5-15 and was a total non-factor all night.

Guys make shots. Teams lose games. This is the NBA.

We're 8 and **** 2.

No the defense was bad because we get destroyed on PNR and sagging all night long leaving CJ open and others taking shots.

8-2 means **** ot the fact that our defense is bad on high pnr, its just so damn obvious

[thomchatt3rton]

Let's not let our super-hot start make us forget that everything here is still a work in progress and in the early stages. Things are trending up but nothings a finished product or even close.

Doesn't mean we don't have issues with personnel or whatever, but some perspective is required.

[ibanezjp]

One thing I wanted to ask everyone’s thoughts on was a quick quote Eric Nehm dropped where Bud told him “we don’t worry about what other teams are doing and I don’t watch nearly as much film as you think. We just worry about how we’re playing.” It gives me just a little worry because that would suggest he’s not going to make adjustments later in the year. I thought they did a better job tonight of changing how they defended the 3 after the first couple possessions but then CJ was killing us from mid range the remainder of the game. It seemed like a throwaway quote when he said it but man that says a lot to me.

[Magic Giannison]

What i dont understand why we dont switch the defense when that happens?

[skones]

The defense is awful because McCollum dropped 40 and shot the ball really well yet Lillard goes 5-15 and was a total non-factor all night.

Guys make shots. Teams lose games. This is the NBA.

We're 8 and **** 2.

No the defense was bad because we get destroyed on PNR and sagging all night long leaving CJ open and others taking shots.

8-2 means **** ot the fact that our defense is bad on high pnr, its just so damn obvious

No. 8-2 means we've won 80% of our games. We could legitimately lose all four of these road games and be sitting at a 50 win pace. Think about that in the context of what this team has been. That doesn't mean "****."

What's so damn obvious is your blatant overreaction to this game. This team isn't perfect. Having the expectation that a backcourt of Brogdon and Bledsoe is going to lock down two elite offensive guards is an unrealistic one.

[Magic Giannison]

The defense is awful because McCollum dropped 40 and shot the ball really well yet Lillard goes 5-15 and was a total non-factor all night.

Guys make shots. Teams lose games. This is the NBA.

We're 8 and **** 2.

No the defense was bad because we get destroyed on PNR and sagging all night long leaving CJ open and others taking shots.

8-2 means **** ot the fact that our defense is bad on high pnr, its just so damn obvious

No. 8-2 means we've won 80% of our games. We could legitimately lose all four of these road games and be sitting at a 50 win pace. Think about that in the context of what this team has been. That doesn't mean "****."

What's so damn obvious is your blatant overreaction to this game. This team isn't perfect. Expecting a backcourt of Brogdon and Bledsoe to lock down two elite offensive guards is an unrealistic expectation.

You mean the same way we locked them down 2 years in a row and swept them twice?

The overreaction is the 8-2 score as we clearly struggled on both games vs top teams, especially on defense.

[skones]

No the defense was bad because we get destroyed on PNR and sagging all night long leaving CJ open and others taking shots.

8-2 means **** ot the fact that our defense is bad on high pnr, its just so damn obvious

No. 8-2 means we've won 80% of our games. We could legitimately lose all four of these road games and be sitting at a 50 win pace. Think about that in the context of what this team has been. That doesn't mean "****."

What's so damn obvious is your blatant overreaction to this game. This team isn't perfect. Expecting a backcourt of Brogdon and Bledsoe to lock down two elite offensive guards is an unrealistic expectation.

You mean the same way we locked them down 2 years in a row and swept them twice?

The overreaction is the 8-2 score as we clearly struggled on both games vs top teams, especially on defense.

"Locked them down" by allowing them to score 52, 52, and 53 in three of those contests? And then 53 tonight? Like that?

Evan Turner was the difference in this contest, but by all means, if you'd rather go back to 15-16 or 16-17 and keep watching Kidd's Bucks, feel free to do so.

[Magic Giannison]

No. 8-2 means we've won 80% of our games. We could legitimately lose all four of these road games and be sitting at a 50 win pace. Think about that in the context of what this team has been. That doesn't mean "****."

What's so damn obvious is your blatant overreaction to this game. This team isn't perfect. Expecting a backcourt of Brogdon and Bledsoe to lock down two elite offensive guards is an unrealistic expectation.

You mean the same way we locked them down 2 years in a row and swept them twice?

The overreaction is the 8-2 score as we clearly struggled on both games vs top teams, especially on defense.

"Locked them down" by allowing them to score 52, 52, and 53 in three of those contests? Like that?

Evan Turner was the difference in this contest, but by all means, if you'd rather go back to 15-16 or 16-17 and keep watching Kidd's Bucks, feel free to do so.

Why it does it have to be either one or another, it snot about Kidd or his defense but the fact that we struggle defensively on high screens.Tonight we never were close to winning despite shooting better than ever under Kidd.

Choose to ignore the defense and we gonna get torched even more, especially on teams that we cannot outscore in process.

[MrHoneycutt]

I didn't get to watch the game with my full attention, but it seemed like:

1) Portland had some lengthy stretches where they just could not miss.
2) There were some plays that they really seemed to be out-hustling us for loose balls and rebounds

Nothing would cleanse the palate like beating down Golden State

[Pachinko_]

Nothing would cleanse the palate like beating down Golden State

Might wanna grab a coke instead