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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#381 » by aminiaturebuddha » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:01 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:What's it looking like for our chances to qualify for the FIBA WC? Top 3 teams from the division qualify so we should be okay considering we sit on top of the division?


You'll see some more detailed analysis of the odds if you look back a few pages to discussions following the September window, but in short, our chances are very good.

It's not just the top 3 teams from each group, it's also a 7th team from either group. The standings currently look like this with 4 games remaining for all teams:

Group E
1. USA 7-1
2. Argentina 7-1
3. Puerto Rico 5-3
4. Uruguay 5-3
5. Mexico 3-5
6. Panama 3-5

Group F
1. Canada 7-1
2. Venezuela 7-1
3. Brazil 6-2
4. Dominican Republic 5-3
5. Virgin Islands 2-6
6. Chile 1-7

Look back to previous discussions for analysis of who plays who over the next 4 games for all of the permutations and combinations, but overall, yes, we are looking very good.
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Post#382 » by Hair Canada » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm

College season opens in a week. For those interested, I'm writing a four-part review on some of the more promising Canadian players. Might be easy to miss, so here's the link to the first part:

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1761677
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Post#383 » by TrueNorth31 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:22 pm

Keep us posted Hair.

Joel Anthony will be in shape for the November window as he's returning to Argentina to play with San Lorenzo.

https://www.elliberal.com.ar/noticia/453263/joel-anthony-reemplaza-eric-dawson

I don't think it's about money, he's made $ 24 million in his career, it may be more about the experience.
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Post#384 » by Hair Canada » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:21 pm

Part 2 of my review on the coming college season:

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1762046
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Post#385 » by Mirotic12 » Thu Nov 1, 2018 7:45 pm

In recent games, AEK started playing with 2 and sometimes 3 point guard lineups, putting multiple ball handlers on the floor while XRM is in the game. And since they did that, he has played much better. If Canada sees him as a two guard, he can be a nice addition for them. But it's much like it is with Phil Scrubb...these guys are not point guards, they are clearly two guards, and Canada should not use them as point guards.
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Post#386 » by mojo13 » Thu Nov 1, 2018 7:58 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:In recent games, AEK started playing with 2 and sometimes 3 point guard lineups, putting multiple ball handlers on the floor while XRM is in the game. And since they did that, he has played much better. If Canada sees him as a two guard, he can be a nice addition for them. But it's much like it is with Phil Scrubb...these guys are not point guards, they are clearly two guards, and Canada should not use them as point guards.



I am with you on Phil Scrubb - I havent liked what I have seen from him for Canada as a PG (he seemed way better at SG). XRM I am not so sure yet as he seemed decent in the G-League last year on the few times I watched him. But you are seeing him regularly at a higher level....

Oliver Hanlan seems another that we need to throw into this mix as a better SG than PG.

We may really need XRM as a PG though - because I am not sure what else is available to Canada for the WC qualifiers besides Kaza Keane, who is growing on me, but not that impressive. It's likely we run with multiple PG/SGs in a line up anyways, to ease the pressure off each other. Would a Scrubb/XRM starting back court be enough? Since we have very few true SFs too, we'd likely have another guard out there for long stretches too.
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Post#387 » by slothrop8 » Thu Nov 1, 2018 8:18 pm

XRM isn't going to play the point for us when he have better participation in other windows - but if he makes himself available for the upcoming qualifiers - he'll be perfectly solid at the point for Canada. He played most PG at FSU, he played PG in the GLeague, he played mostly PG in his cup of coffee in the NBA. He's more of scoring point or really a combo guard rather than a classic distributor/floor general point guard - but he'll be perfectly fine for us if he shows up to play in the windows where we're in tough to get good players to come. As you suggest Mojo - we'll likely have multiple ball handlers on the floor - 2 or 3 combo guard/wing types on at once - that'll be fine. Would I prefer prime Steve Nash? Of course - but XRM would be a nice addition to the squad if he comes.
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Post#388 » by BilboBanginz » Fri Nov 2, 2018 2:46 pm

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Post#389 » by Hair Canada » Fri Nov 2, 2018 4:02 pm

Links to all four posts on Canadians in the upcoming college season:

1. Returning players (1-5): viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1761677
2. Returning players (6-10): viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1762046
3. Rookies (1-5): viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1762502
4. Rookies (6-10): viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1762883
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Post#390 » by Mirotic12 » Fri Nov 2, 2018 5:53 pm

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Mirotic12 wrote:In recent games, AEK started playing with 2 and sometimes 3 point guard lineups, putting multiple ball handlers on the floor while XRM is in the game. And since they did that, he has played much better. If Canada sees him as a two guard, he can be a nice addition for them. But it's much like it is with Phil Scrubb...these guys are not point guards, they are clearly two guards, and Canada should not use them as point guards.



I am with you on Phil Scrubb - I havent liked what I have seen from him for Canada as a PG (he seemed way better at SG). XRM I am not so sure yet as he seemed decent in the G-League last year on the few times I watched him. But you are seeing him regularly at a higher level....

Oliver Hanlan seems another that we need to throw into this mix as a better SG than PG.

We may really need XRM as a PG though - because I am not sure what else is available to Canada for the WC qualifiers besides Kaza Keane, who is growing on me, but not that impressive. It's likely we run with multiple PG/SGs in a line up anyways, to ease the pressure off each other. Would a Scrubb/XRM starting back court be enough? Since we have very few true SFs too, we'd likely have another guard out there for long stretches too.


Probably against bad teams at those World Cup qualifiers, but I wouldn't try it against any decent team.

slothrop8 wrote:XRM isn't going to play the point for us when he have better participation in other windows - but if he makes himself available for the upcoming qualifiers - he'll be perfectly solid at the point for Canada. He played most PG at FSU, he played PG in the GLeague, he played mostly PG in his cup of coffee in the NBA. He's more of scoring point or really a combo guard rather than a classic distributor/floor general point guard - but he'll be perfectly fine for us if he shows up to play in the windows where we're in tough to get good players to come. As you suggest Mojo - we'll likely have multiple ball handlers on the floor - 2 or 3 combo guard/wing types on at once - that'll be fine. Would I prefer prime Steve Nash? Of course - but XRM would be a nice addition to the squad if he comes.


I wouldn't gamble on XRM playing point guard if I was Canada - not with qualification on the line. Whenever he plays point guard for AEK, their offense is awful. They have 4 guys running offense - XRM, Malcolm Griffin, Giannoulis Larentzakis, and Vassilis Xanthopoulos. The offense looks by far the worst when XRM runs it.

He has some individual qualities, such as: he's very aggressive on offense, he's a good ball handler, he's pretty quick with the ball, he has a pretty good first step and can get dribble penetration, he can do some play making, and he can hit the 3....

He also has some very bad points though, such as: his shot selection is very poor, his decision making is very poor, he has a tendency to be a chucker, he can't properly run screen roll, he can't control the game pace, tempo, rhythm, the offense is totally static and usually comes to a stop with him as point guard, he has a tendency to dribble too much and hold onto the ball too much, and he tries to finish around the rim way too much, considering he's not athletic enough to finish the large majority of the times, yet he keeps trying it, and usually gets blocked.

All in all, you could maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses a lot more if you used him as a shooting guard, while using him as a point guard will just bring out all his weaknesses. Against some of those awful teams at Americas World Cup qualifiers you might get away with it, but I doubt it against any semi competent or decent competition. In Greek League and Basketball Champions League his weaknesses as a point guard are glaring. Granted, that's way higher competition level than playing most of those qualifiers teams though.

I still don't think I would risk it if I was Canada...a somewhat decent team like Brazil or Argentina or something could probably expose his deficiency's as a point guard.
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Post#391 » by slothrop8 » Fri Nov 2, 2018 10:31 pm

XRM is only going to play PG in windows where we do not have our best players - against other Latin American teams who will also not have their best players. He’ll be fine.
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Post#392 » by mojo13 » Fri Nov 2, 2018 10:47 pm

slothrop8 wrote:XRM is only going to play PG in windows where we do not have our best players - against other Latin American teams who will also not have their best players. He’ll be fine.


And better than all the likely available alternatives - Kaza Keane, Tre Bell Haynes, Phil Scrubb, Olivier Hanlan, Jermaine Anderson.
Who else in that group would be a better PG and available for the WC Qualifiers?
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Post#393 » by mojo13 » Sat Nov 3, 2018 9:02 pm

Raptors 905 win their season opener 126-125 against Delaware. Chris Boucher with 33-14-4-3-3 with some crazy highlights. Duane Notice with 14 points.
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Post#394 » by frumble » Sun Nov 4, 2018 1:14 pm

Justin Jackson hasn't played in either of the Lakeland Magic's first two games.

Anyone know if he is hurt or if there is something else going on?

Thanks.
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Post#395 » by mojo13 » Sun Nov 4, 2018 9:19 pm

frumble wrote:Justin Jackson hasn't played in either of the Lakeland Magic's first two games.

Anyone know if he is hurt or if there is something else going on?

Thanks.


The Lakeland beat reporter said he was altogether unsure why Jackson hasn’t played yet, but said he was dogged by a calf strain in training camp
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Post#396 » by Young_Buc » Sun Nov 4, 2018 11:20 pm

Thompson/K.O.
Lyles/Powell
Barrett/Wiggins/Brooks
Murray/Stauskas
Shai/Cojo/Nembhard*Ennis*Simi* Jackson*

Solid team and if Murray/Barrett break as all stars it can upset
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Post#397 » by mojo13 » Mon Nov 5, 2018 2:29 am

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Young_Buc wrote:Thompson/K.O.
Lyles/Powell
Barrett/Wiggins/Brooks
Murray/Stauskas
Shai/Cojo/Nembhard*Ennis*Simi* Jackson*

Solid team and if Murray/Barrett break as all stars it can upset


A nice hypothetical But this will never be happen. Not with free agency, injuries and everyone telling these guys not to play in the offseason.
People can keep posting Wiggins, Lyles, Stauskas but in my books they aren’t part of Team Canada. That changes if any decide to play once again, but until that happens I won’t pencil them into any rosters.
And to not include some Euro based guys seems naive. Some of Ejim, Pangos, Scrubb or Heslip will be on any team this summer.
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Post#398 » by mojo13 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 4:14 am

SGA getting his first start tonight.

Jamal Murray going bonkers. Ended with a career high 48 points on 19-30 shooting with 5 threes.

I believe Steve Nash’s career high was 48. So this ties the highest ever by a Canadian.

Brooks with a very solid game last night and a nice start so far tonight.

Also noticed Olivier Hanlan is not on the Auston Spurs roster. Which is where I thought he’d be. No news so far if he has landed anywhere.
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Post#399 » by super_balls » Wed Nov 7, 2018 1:11 pm

Read on Twitter


#Canadians... Man, it feels like we’re going to have 5 first round picks this year.

RJ obviously, Simi (I expect to be considered a lottery talent), Dort, Oshae and one Iggy/Lindell.
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Post#400 » by super_balls » Wed Nov 7, 2018 1:19 pm



Simi the biggest guy in the floor, getting defensive rebounds and pushing it up the floor like Siakam. He’s going to be a lotto pick no doubt in my mind.

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