2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

Post #661 » by **slick_watts** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 12:42 pm

schroder had a lot of success getting to the rim last night and finishing primarily against tristan thompson, who is probably pushing 300 pounds at the moment. i guess, maybe, if this is an advantage he saw and exploited credit to him to some extent. but it was ugly, and he had no eyes for his teammates at all.

getrichordie · Post #662 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 1:43 pm

Lol. Schroder scores 28 on great efficiency, we get the dub and fans are still finding something to get upset about. Love it.

Anyways, in other news. A big play happened yesterday for Ferguson. Adams posted up Thompson, decided to do a hand off pass to Ferguson who’s on the left wing and Ferguson (assisted by Adams’ screening his defender) drives into the middle of the paint and pulls Jerami’s (who is sitting in right corner) defender into the paint and kicks the ball to Jerami, who hits the open 3.

It was a beautiful play. Ferguson also was patient and ready enough for Adams to get (who was being doubled) him the ball on a backdoor cut and then slam it home. I’m having second thoughts about this kids value.

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Post #663 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 2:06 pm

A few weeks ago my niece was outside playing after a big lunch. She felt a rumble in her stomach. In the past she would have **** her pants. Instead she came inside and told her mom who proceeded to wipe her butt. I think she’s going to Harvard.

Post #664 » by **slick_watts** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 2:14 pm

getrichordie wrote:Lol. Schroder scores 28 on great efficiency, we get the dub and fans are still finding something to get upset about. Love it.

i think this website has corrupted you.

getrichordie · Post #665 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 2:22 pm

slick_watts wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lol. Schroder scores 28 on great efficiency, we get the dub and fans are still finding something to get upset about. Love it.

i think this website has corrupted you.

Or maybe it has corrupted you. Maybe it has corrupted us all.

#staywoke

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Post #666 » by **bondom34** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 3:10 pm

A game against the worst team in the NBA where you spot a 97 offensive rating and you're up against a starting lineup down 2 players (3 after Osman) isn't a good game.

thekaoswithin · Post #667 » by **thekaoswithin** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 3:22 pm

bondom34 wrote:A game against the worst team in the NBA where you spot a 97 offensive rating and you're up against a starting lineup down 2 players (3 after Osman) isn't a good game.

Good teams get ugly wins.

Post #668 » by **bondom34** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 3:25 pm

thekaoswithin wrote:
bondom34 wrote:A game against the worst team in the NBA where you spot a 97 offensive rating and you're up against a starting lineup down 2 players (3 after Osman) isn't a good game.

Good teams get ugly wins.

Oh it's better than a loss. But saying this was something that really showed good signs forward is a little iffy to me. Schroder had crazy tunnel vision and defended decently well but still was shaky other than scoring and George was just as shaky. Better than a loss for sure.

RalphSampsonJr · Post #669 » by **RalphSampsonJr** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 4:45 pm

At 30 odd mil it should of been easy to see that PG was far and away the best player on the court last night. It wasnt.
At least you can see what Adams is bringing. Hes the smartest player on the court most of the time and seems to be anchoring the defense well.
With PG you get a great role player doing his best to play like a star but cant. He shouldnt be only shooting 3 3s a game like last night. He doesnt create well or get to the rim with any effectiveness so why only take three 3s?! Is it because JR was on him? If thats the case then thats just proving my point. Okc signed up an all star not this

Pillendreher · Post #670 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 6:31 pm

10 games into the season and just like last season, the one lineup that has Donovan simply refuses to try is the starters + Patterson. 18 minutes so far. Not even a full minute with Abrines+Patterson. He "likes to tinker", but never plays the lineup that makes the most sense on paper. Why?

We lost our starting PF and 30+ minutes a night to go along with it and Patterson's mpg increadsed from 16 to 18. Great. :banghead:

Post #671 » by **slick_watts** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 6:34 pm

Pillendreher wrote:10 games into the season and just like last season, the one lineup that has Donovan simply refuses to try is the starters + Patterson. 18 minutes so far. Not even a full minute with Abrines+Patterson. He "likes to tinker", but never plays the lineup that makes the most sense on paper. Why?

We lost our starting PF and 30+ minutes a night to go along with it and Patterson's mpg increadsed from 16 to 18. Great.

patrick patterson was given the starting role without much fanfare to start the season. he didn't start off playing well. his third game starting also happened to be westbrook's first game back. after that game, the switch was made.

it makes no sense to me for the thunder to just give him the starting role and take it away so quickly without some sort of impetus behind it. not even billy is this frenetic with his lineup decisions.

Pillendreher · Post #672 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 7:07 pm

Something Erik Horne talked about on the latest Thunder Buddies, so I looked it up: The Thunder are currently 4th in TOV% and 2nd in opp TOV%. Per 100 possessions, their net turnovers are at -4.9. That's tied with Memphis for league best. In addition to that, they're also leading the league in net points off turnovers per 100 possessions at +7.5.
They're really getting the most out of their ability to play the passing lanes right now, defense turning into offense.

On a factor level overall, per ctg the Thunder is one of just two teams so far with five or more top 10 rankings in one of the four factors. Thunder is in the Top 10 in 5 (TOV%, ORB%, FTr, opp eFG%%, opp TOV%) and Portland is in the Top 10 in 6. Boston, Charlotte, Denver, Indiana and Milwaukee are in the top 10 4x.
Not bad. But man, we can't be bottom 10 in eFG% if we want to actually be amongst the best teams.

getrichordie · Post #673 » by **getrichordie** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:21 am

Lmao. Have you guys seen Patterson play? Are we watching the same game?

Patterson belongs on second unit. I think he should play some minutes with starters, but he shouldn’t be starting.

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Pillendreher · Post #674 » by **Pillendreher** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 11:30 am

During the winning streak, Schröder has been averaging 23/6/5 per 36 on 58 TS%/107 ORtG/18 PER. Still not hitting the 3, but that is the kind of efficiency the Thunder desperately need.

hardenASG13 · Post #675 » by **hardenASG13** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 11:37 am

getrichordie wrote:Lmao. Have you guys seen Patterson play? Are we watching the same game?

Patterson belongs on second unit. I think he should play some minutes with starters, but he shouldn’t be starting.

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Yep, he's right where he should be. The second unit is so good this year. Even ferg has found his confidence. I wonder how long it will be before this board admits Schroeder is an awesome return for melo, too. Oh and 1 more thing. It's crazy how the team isn't missing Roberson, with competent replacements (Schroeder, abrines, diallo, ferguson), as opposed to **** abrines last year and Corey brewer.......they look great!

getrichordie · Post #676 » by **getrichordie** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:03 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lmao. Have you guys seen Patterson play? Are we watching the same game?

Patterson belongs on second unit. I think he should play some minutes with starters, but he shouldn’t be starting.

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Yep, he's right where he should be. The second unit is so good this year. Even ferg has found his confidence. I wonder how long it will be before this board admits Schroeder is an awesome return for melo, too. Oh and 1 more thing. It's crazy how the team isn't missing Roberson, with competent replacements (Schroeder, abrines, diallo, ferguson), as opposed to **** abrines last year and Corey brewer.......they look great!

Shhhh... you’ll upset the board. Roberson is needed! We miss his spacing on offense.

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Post #677 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:24 pm

getrichordie wrote:
hardenASG13 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lmao. Have you guys seen Patterson play? Are we watching the same game?

Patterson belongs on second unit. I think he should play some minutes with starters, but he shouldn’t be starting.

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Yep, he's right where he should be. The second unit is so good this year. Even ferg has found his confidence. I wonder how long it will be before this board admits Schroeder is an awesome return for melo, too. Oh and 1 more thing. It's crazy how the team isn't missing Roberson, with competent replacements (Schroeder, abrines, diallo, ferguson), as opposed to **** abrines last year and Corey brewer.......they look great!

Shhhh... you’ll upset the board. Roberson is needed! We miss his spacing on offense.

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Nah you won’t upset anyone. Well just start talking about robersons impact using analytics and it will go over your head. Jr Smith, lol.

hardenASG13 · Post #678 » by **hardenASG13** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:28 pm

Knrstz wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
hardenASG13 wrote:
Yep, he's right where he should be. The second unit is so good this year. Even ferg has found his confidence. I wonder how long it will be before this board admits Schroeder is an awesome return for melo, too. Oh and 1 more thing. It's crazy how the team isn't missing Roberson, with competent replacements (Schroeder, abrines, diallo, ferguson), as opposed to **** abrines last year and Corey brewer.......they look great!

Shhhh... you’ll upset the board. Roberson is needed! We miss his spacing on offense.

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Nah you won’t upset anyone. Well just start talking about robersons impact using analytics and it will go over your head. Jr Smith, lol.

Not at all, you will assume you are right regardless tho if you use them....fergusons stats with the starters have looked good, too. The team looks great, face it. He isn't really missed. Oh forgot huestis, he was competent too haha

CROklahoma · Post #679 » by **CROklahoma** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:40 pm

Our defense is legit, which is a thing to be optimistic.
Without Robes, Top5 in the league, thats insane.
Noel, Terrance, Diallo and Abrines stepped up their individual performances, and its obvious Bob Beyer is legit. He has the personel right now, without a doubt.

Wait if Dre comes back, we'll be a terror on that side of the floor.

Post #680 » by **slick_watts** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:43 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lmao. Have you guys seen Patterson play? Are we watching the same game?

Patterson belongs on second unit. I think he should play some minutes with starters, but he shouldn’t be starting.

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Yep, he's right where he should be. The second unit is so good this year. Even ferg has found his confidence. I wonder how long it will be before this board admits Schroeder is an awesome return for melo, too. Oh and 1 more thing. It's crazy how the team isn't missing Roberson, with competent replacements (Schroeder, abrines, diallo, ferguson), as opposed to **** abrines last year and Corey brewer.......they look great!

you must be a glutton for punishment. the team isn't missing andre roberson? lol. ok. we'll take another look at this down the line, because tbh you and many others said the same thing when waiters started, when brewer started, and basically any time 'dre gets hurt and some flash in the pan streak occurs. you can't like.. pound your chest on this one when you were wrong every other time.

i can't speak for anyone else, but for me it takes a long time and a lot of evidence to support an extraordinary subversion such as dennis schroder being a good player, or the thunder are an elite defense without andre roberson. it should for anyone imo who doesn't want to be reactionary, but i think you're too emotional.