Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED

Bernman · Post #301 » by **Bernman** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:13 am

emunney wrote:I'm psyched man. Haven't crunched it but can we reroute Smith for Dedmon?

I would think they'd much rather have Dekker so that move would have been made already if it was going to happen (for that specific piece at least). Should have leaned more in that direction, even if it took a little sweetener. Dedmon discernibly improves the team, Smith doesn't.

Mags FTW · Post #302 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:14 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Every trade we make there's always one or two guys with the "we must have something else up our sleeve" take and 99% of the time we do not. I think they mean to say, "I HOPE we have something else up our sleeve".

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CJTURT · Post #303 » by **CJTURT** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:14 am

I can’t believe this. I’m excited to see what the trade deadline offers as well.

jschligs · Post #304 » by **jschligs** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:15 am

MickeyDavis wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:How much of a voice to you believe Horst had while he was working under Hammond? He has clearly learned from his mistakes and the mistakes of his mentors. Be happy as a Bucks fan for once.

Exactly. Ok, signing those guys was a mistake, so we can live with it or get out from under it. And yes you have to pay a price to shed salary. It's the way it works.

This a million times. Hammond was steering the ship, Horst was simply rowing a paddle. It’d go on without him.

GoldenAntlers · Post #305 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:15 am

Smith improves the team if Thon doesn't play. He's like Zeller with a three. Or am I wrong?

VooDoo7 · Post #306 » by **VooDoo7** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:17 am

Mags FTW wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Every trade we make there's always one or two guys with the "we must have something else up our sleeve" take and 99% of the time we do not. I think they mean to say, "I HOPE we have something else up our sleeve".

“Is that all?”

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LuessiT · Post #307 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:18 am

ReasonablySober wrote:I think it's easy to see Smith taking over Thon's minutes. I'm not upset in the least at moving Sam for him.

I mean Smith is really bad but he's a terrific fit though. If he can help any NBA roster it's ours. That said Dekker is even worse so getting Smith and a second out of that is terrific. Washington must like Dekker cause the cap their saving is minimal.

Edit: I wonder how that trade came along. Did Washington like Dekker all this time? Did we call Washington cause we knew they were trying to save cap? Were we in talks with Washington for Beal or Porter and Dekker just came along?

SupremeHustle · Post #308 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:18 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Every trade we make there's always one or two guys with the "we must have something else up our sleeve" take and 99% of the time we do not. I think they mean to say, "I HOPE we have something else up our sleeve".

“Is that all?”

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blazza18 · Post #309 » by **blazza18** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:18 am

GBPackers47 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:The trade is good to great. But it's also to fix previous messes Horst was involved in and it's only likely to create cap space for future problems later.

It's an A++ trade if we end up with another all nba player on the roster because of this.

Can we put a rest to this “all the mistakes Horst was involved in” s***?

Have you ever had a boss before? How manny times have you been the person reporting up and informed him or her something was a bad idea and they said “f*** it” I’m the boss and done it their way anyways. I know I sure have.

Maybe, just maybe dude knows what he’s doing. So far he has taken a dogs*** Jason Kidd led team and turned them into a damn fun product about to beat the Warriors again tonight proving 7 games in the finals will be nothing for us.

I mean Horst got the gig because he was involved in everything.

Sure, Horst has been with the organization for nine years and has played a vital front-office role for many of them. He eventually rose to the point where was he considered former GM John Hammond's right-hand man.

Anywhere Hammond went Horst was there. That included contract negotiations, the draft combine, trade discussions — you name it and Horst was either there or fully apprised of what was going on.

The 34-year-old also became the team's salary-cap guru, crunching numbers and making sure the Bucks were diligently following the often labyrinthine regulations stipulated by the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

AussieBuck · Post #310 » by **AussieBuck** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:18 am

steger_3434 wrote:We are getting dangerously close to losing our Australian contingent. Or has the misery of this team for all these years locked them in?

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Bucksfan28 · Post #311 » by **Bucksfan28** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:19 am

Shocked that some aren't going berserk with the evidence now that Horst has been talking to Washington. Either because a) maybe they've discussed Beal or b) the Beal possibility must be nonexistent if they're making other trades.

Bernman · Post #312 » by **Bernman** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:19 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:Smith improves the team if Thon doesn't play. He's like Zeller with a three. Or am I wrong?

I think so. Smith's efficiency behind the line is not much more proven than Zeller's was, inside the arc he's considerably less efficient, and defensively you're going to lose something.

Post #313 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:20 am

Need to think about this for a day. Many moving pieces. Seems good if they have an end game on another deal or free agent next summer.

london234 · Post #314 » by **london234** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:20 am

On paper this appears to be a good deal for the bucks. However, I am interested to see how this trade works out. We are playing pretty well and sometimes adding a better player does not always improve a team. Team dynamics can be complex and I get the impression that Henson and Delly were well liked by their teammates.

Cleveland are probably writing off this year and next. All about future draft picks and rebuilding their team. Like Philadelphia did.

MVP2110 · Post #315 » by **MVP2110** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:21 am

So did we both lose and acquire a second?

FrieAaron · Post #316 » by **FrieAaron** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:21 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
“Is that all?”

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It's been too long since I've seen it, but I'm going to throw "The Never Ending Story" and "A Christmas Story" on that Mt. Rushmore. Not to get too off-base.

Jez2983 · Post #317 » by **Jez2983** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:22 am

ClassicJack wrote:Henson was my guy but I am absolutely in love with this trade. Horsty!!!

So you hated Bogut and loved Henson. Well ****.

This is really good work from Horst. Outside of the Wilson pick and the Snelly mess he's done some very good things.

GoldenAntlers · Post #318 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:22 am

Bernman wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:Smith improves the team if Thon doesn't play. He's like Zeller with a three. Or am I wrong?

I think so. Smith's efficiency behind the line is not much more proven than Zeller's was, inside the arc he's considerably less efficient, and defensively you're going to lose something.

At least he is an expiring that can still be traded this year!

tydett · Post #319 » by **tydett** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:22 am

Guys, we seriously replaced two guys who weren't playing with two guys who can play and can displace worse players who are playing. That's a good thing.

Mags FTW · Post #320 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:22 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Every trade we make there's always one or two guys with the "we must have something else up our sleeve" take and 99% of the time we do not. I think they mean to say, "I HOPE we have something else up our sleeve".

“Is that all?”

Watch on YouTube

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