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Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED

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A
111
54%
B
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36%
C
11
5%
D
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2%
F
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Re: Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED 

Post#381 » by Jez2983 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:18 am

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Re: Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED 

Post#382 » by skones » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:19 am

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skones wrote:He's considerably less efficient because Jason Smith is actually a jump shooter. He'll take those shots and has done so his entire career. Jason Smith, throughout his career has taken a LOT of shots from 16 feet to the three point line, and has hit 45.5% of them which is a VERY VERY good number, particularly for a big. He's going to get the green light to shoot from deep by Bud, and for a guy who's never really got shots up on volume from that distance, he's one of the more equipped bigs in the NBA to start doing so. He's far more bouncy and mobile than Zeller and as a result is a better shot blocker. He hustles, but lacks the defensive IQ Zeller has. Very blegh on the glass.

Think more along the lines of Miles Plumlee who pops instead of rolls.


TS%'s for Zeller last year: 59% for Brooklyn (when he shot 3's), 62% when he didn't. 5 out of the last 6 years Smith hasn't come anywhere near close to that. IIRC Zeller was shooting the 3 again in the preseason under Bud, then they cut him. Probably just cut him because they acquired Brook, were financially invested in Henson, and didn't want to give up on Thon after the fool's gold of a couple good games in the playoffs. Now replaced him with as bad or worse center with Henson jettisoned and realizing Thon is still a fraud.


That's not what I was getting at. I was alluding to him being a 7 footer who will start shooting threes on volume here. If he steps back and makes those long deuces threes, you're going to see a substantial bump in his TS%. Also worth noting that while Zeller would take the corner three from time to time, he wasn't a guy who was likely capable of taking 3 or 4 in a night while maintaining a plus percentage. I believe Smith WILL be able to.

In simpler terms, while his efficiency behind the line isn't much more "proven" than Zeller's he's FAR more suited for that stretch five role, and that matters quite a bit.
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Post#383 » by buckbeer » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:21 am

Voted A on this great trade, really hope we use the cap space to go after Kawhi Leonard. I'd much prefer to have Leonard than Middleton.
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Post#384 » by JayMKE » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:21 am

7 foot white dudes from America are all comparable with each other
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Post#385 » by blazza18 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:22 am

SkilesTheLimit wrote:Another move with Bud’s fingerprints all over it.

Hill played for Bud in SA for 3 seasons.


Sorry dude Jon Jorst gets all the credit for this.
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Post#386 » by M-C-G » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:23 am

Smith and Thon or DJ for Dedmon? Sign Zeller or whatever to get min.

Think about this, Henson shooting 3 pointers probably made this deal possible. Who would have thunk it?


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Post#387 » by RogerMurdock » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:25 am

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Post#388 » by DrWood » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:26 am

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Just saying :lol: It's clear now that the Rockets struggles didn't have anything to do with Carmelo. He was just a scapegoat.

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Post#389 » by ReddRum » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:27 am

Who is Rodzilla?


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Post#390 » by neiLz » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:30 am

ReddRum wrote:Who is Rodzilla?


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Rodzilla is delly
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Post#391 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:30 am

There are more Chipotle's in Cleveland than Milwaukee. Henson's rehab will go well
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Post#392 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:31 am

Jason Smith was a hawk during Bud's time in ATL I believe
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Post#393 » by thomchatt3rton » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:31 am

MartyMcFly88 wrote:Hey everyone - First time poster, long time reader.

Anyone concerned about Hill's injury to his shoulder?


I'm a bit concerned, yeah. The salary-dump mitigates that concern quite a bit though. Welcome to the board!
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Post#394 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:33 am

ReddRum wrote:Who is Rodzilla?



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Post#395 » by SupremeHustle » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:34 am

SkilesTheLimit wrote:Another move with Bud’s fingerprints all over it.

Hill played for Bud in SA for 3 seasons.


Maybe we can trade him for Kawhi, too!
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Post#396 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:34 am

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Post#397 » by worthlessBucks » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:36 am

The NBA is full of idiots and the Bucks employed 1 for nearly a decade. Cleaning up trash that really shouldn't have existed here in the first place. Nice trade by Horst for future financial flexibility (lots). God damn you Hammond. I don't like having to see all these picks go away and I will be saddened if they simply give all these internal free agents blank checks (to start the cycle over again), but I suppose we'll have to see how the season plays out. Should be top 4 and home court easily and not achieving this would be a failure.

Get rid of Thon next please.
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Post#398 » by DrWood » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:37 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:Smith improves the team if Thon doesn't play. He's like Zeller with a three. Or am I wrong?

he's not as good as a rebounder or defender as zeller.
but if he's just going to play 500-600 minutes the rest of the season, meh.
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Post#399 » by bizarro » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:40 am

Welp, this is surprising. I have many feelings.
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Post#400 » by sdn40 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:42 am

Horst knows that by 2021 Silver will make embryos draft eligible, putting the final nail in the "draft is useful" coffin.

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