GT: Nets vs. Hawks 12/16/2018 3pm EST

[Prokorov]

Russell trying hard to shut me up I love it, I bet he'll drop a total of 10 points next game. But we have to talk about the elephant in the room, is Allen a starting center in the NBA? He gives up alot of 20 & 10s consistently

Yea, that is the most alarming thing to me about him. Every center goes off against us, even someone like Dedmon having an efficient 24/12 night. I know that part of it is down to the way we're set up and how we play team defense, but its still very concerning.

12 of dedmons points came on threes. you let him shoot those.

Allen also got 11/6 in just 14 minutes and overall was a force out there.

1 on 1 defense he is going to struggle until he adds the wieght. at 20 years old that shouldnt be a concern. he is one of the best young cneters in the league and is a lock to be at least a 14/10/2 guy who is among the league leaders in blocks and FG% every year while playing above average defense.

[Prokorov]

Russell trying hard to shut me up I love it, I bet he'll drop a total of 10 points next game. But we have to talk about the elephant in the room, is Allen a starting center in the NBA? He gives up alot of 20 & 10s consistently

Jarrett Allen is 20 years old and is not even remotely a finished product.

The only elephant in the room is the lack of patience for young players on this team from this fanbase.

this board knee jerks more the any ive ever seen. a young guy gets like a dunk in his first game and he is a superstar. then a month later everyone wants him cut then the next year he is a star again.

we see it with crabbe, levert, RHJ, dlo, diniwddie.

[Prokorov]

The biggest thing for D Lo is to overcome his inconsistency. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the next game is a crap performance for him. That's how it usually is with him. When his jumper is on, and he's making the right decisions, he plays like a star. But that's not often enough, and a large part of it has to do with his lack of athleticism, which unfortunately cannot be improved.

what 22 year old doesnt struggle with consistency?

[Prokorov]

The biggest thing for D Lo is to overcome his inconsistency. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the next game is a crap performance for him. That's how it usually is with him. When his jumper is on, and he's making the right decisions, he plays like a star. But that's not often enough, and a large part of it has to do with his lack of athleticism, which unfortunately cannot be improved.

Ok, but generally speaking, isn't consistency the one thing that comes more often than not with age and experience? You can't assume he won't improve between now and his prime years (26+). At 22, you value the flashes of greatness more than occasional bad games.

What's most encouraging is that even when he struggles shooting, he's finding ways to contribute.

yes this... i would also add at that age you look for year over year improvment, and he has improved across the board...

18/6/4 right now on 37% from three. scoring and assists are up, turnovers down, and shooting percentages up. his defense, which ahs always been a huge knocks, has improved a ton to the point where he is our best defense PG by a decent margin.

[Prokorov]

Great win... we smashed a team we should have smashed. amazing game by Dlo. Dinwiddie also had a queitely soldi game and every role player looked excellent. we are scoring at an insane clip right now... the new comers look to be comfortable in the offensive systems, Rodi is looking like a veteran out there and the team seems to have hit their grove recovering from leverts injury.

some winnable games coming up, 2 back of a playoff spot

[MGrand15]

Blaming Jarrett Allen for Dedmon scoring a lot is pretty silly. Dedmon hit 5 3s and our game plan was clearly to ignore him outside the paint. And Allen barely played yesterday. Allen's been our most consistent player this year and a huge reason why we've won. He locks the paint down and is a really good PNR threat.

If anything, he doesn't get nearly enough credit. He plays like a vet. With increased minutes and responsibilities, he's essentially improved across the board (per minute) from his very good rookie year. He could completely stop improving and he's still our starting center for the next decade and a building block.

[Prokorov]

Blaming Jarrett Allen for Dedmon scoring a lot is pretty silly. Dedmon hit 5 3s and our game plan was clearly to ignore him outside the paint. And Allen barely played yesterday. Allen's been our most consistent player this year and a huge reason why we've won. He locks the paint down and is a really good PNR threat.

If anything, he doesn't get nearly enough credit. He plays like a vet. With increased minutes and responsibilities, he's essentially improved across the board (per minute) from his very good rookie year. He could completely stop improving and he's still our starting center for the next decade and a building block.

12/8/2 in just 27 minutes with a 65 FG%, 65 TS%, and 20 PER

guy has been unreal this year. yeah kanter bullied him, embiid bullied him. but overall he is still near average 1 on 1 defender and a clear plus help defender. He is an outstanding pick and roll player in just over 100 NBA games played.

there isnt a shred of evidence that points against him being a 10+ year NBA stater, if not all-star

[MrDollarBills]

The biggest thing for D Lo is to overcome his inconsistency. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the next game is a crap performance for him. That's how it usually is with him. When his jumper is on, and he's making the right decisions, he plays like a star. But that's not often enough, and a large part of it has to do with his lack of athleticism, which unfortunately cannot be improved.

Ok, but generally speaking, isn't consistency the one thing that comes more often than not with age and experience? You can't assume he won't improve between now and his prime years (26+). At 22, you value the flashes of greatness more than occasional bad games.

What's most encouraging is that even when he struggles shooting, he's finding ways to contribute.

This is what I'm saying, he is actually IMPROVING. During this 5 game streak he has been absolutely solid even when he hasn't shot the ball well.

It just comes down to what Marks wants to do cap wise. I'm all for keeping him here if they believe its worth it.

[MrDollarBills]

Blaming Jarrett Allen for Dedmon scoring a lot is pretty silly. Dedmon hit 5 3s and our game plan was clearly to ignore him outside the paint. And Allen barely played yesterday. Allen's been our most consistent player this year and a huge reason why we've won. He locks the paint down and is a really good PNR threat.

If anything, he doesn't get nearly enough credit. He plays like a vet. With increased minutes and responsibilities, he's essentially improved across the board (per minute) from his very good rookie year. He could completely stop improving and he's still our starting center for the next decade and a building block.

12/8/2 in just 27 minutes with a 65 FG%, 65 TS%, and 20 PER

guy has been unreal this year. yeah kanter bullied him, embiid bullied him. but overall he is still near average 1 on 1 defender and a clear plus help defender. He is an outstanding pick and roll player in just over 100 NBA games played.

there isnt a shred of evidence that points against him being a 10+ year NBA stater, if not all-star

Thank you. the very idea that he is not a starting center is one of the worst takes I've ever seen on here, and that's saying a lot stemming from the crap that was being spewed on this board when Lin was here.

[Papi_swav]

Russell trying hard to shut me up I love it, I bet he'll drop a total of 10 points next game. But we have to talk about the elephant in the room, is Allen a starting center in the NBA? He gives up alot of 20 & 10s consistently

Jarrett Allen is 20 years old and is not even remotely a finished product.

The only elephant in the room is the lack of patience for young players on this team from this fanbase.

this board knee jerks more the any ive ever seen. a young guy gets like a dunk in his first game and he is a superstar. then a month later everyone wants him cut then the next year he is a star again.

we see it with crabbe, levert, RHJ, dlo, diniwddie.

lol relax guys, I'm not saying to get him off the team, I'm just pointing out that he gives up way too many doubles doubles that he needs to fix, at least work on the rebounds, Ed Davis out rebounds him alot in half of Allen's minutes. He definitely needs to put on weight but he needs to box out better also.

[Claud]

Russ played flawlessly.

Perfect crisp passes, nothing forced, good defense, under control, made shots, etc.

It way a joy to watch.

Overall fun game offensivelly but can't allow 120 plus points.. defense must improve.