Fake Trade Thread 2

[stinger14]

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There are plenty of other vids of walls terrible defence.

This is just one of the games I was talking about watching. The guy lacks in the effort department. Can't believe the media still makes him sound like a star, because he is not a star. I believe he is the problem in Washington

[JMAC3]

Trading for Wall makes no sense, him and Kemba can not co-exist.

Wall has never played defense on shooting guards and would be a liability there.

Wall dictates the ball too much on offensive end and its recipe for disaster.

His contract is worst in nba, he has to be a top 5 player for that contract to make sense.

We don’t want to give Kemba 40 million a year now and he is better than Wall, how does that make sense?

Also no other teams are interested in trading for him, that is not a big enough red flag?


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[amcoolio]

Bad timing? Wall just destroyed the Lakers, something we had no chance of doing

[stinger14]

Lakers crushed us on a night after our starters all played at least 37 minutes in an OT game. The game was close at half, but it was obvious in the 2nd half we had no energy.

LeBron just finished talking about them playing on the second night of back to back. He admitted that the team including himself had no energy. LeBron showed it by having a terrible night for him. LeBron said that with McGee, Ingram, Rondo, and Beasley all out tonight, there was no depth and the team was tired.

[JDR720]

I think wall and Kemba can coexist. Wall is a playmaker Kemba is a scorer and almost every good team in the league has at least 2 ball dominate players

[SWedd523]

I would absolutely never trade for Wall

[Teal25]

No Wall unless it’s for Batum.

We should go after Whiteside. I think he would be available.

I proposed this trade.

Hornets Trade Zeller/Frank/Biyombo/ 2nd/2019 1st
Receives Whiteside/Gasol/Toronto 1st

Spurs Trade Gasol/Toronto pick
Receives 2019 Hornets 1st/Biyombo

Heat trade Whiteside
Receives Zeller/Kaminsky/2nd from Hornets

We upgrade center and shed 10 million in salary and still get a 1st round pick for moving down 13-15 spots.

[CuseMayne]

No Wall unless it’s for Batum.

We should go after Whiteside. I think he would be available.

I proposed this trade.

Hornets Trade Zeller/Frank/Biyombo/ 2nd/2019 1st
Receives Whiteside/Gasol/Toronto 1st

Spurs Trade Gasol/Toronto pick
Receives 2019 Hornets 1st/Biyombo

Heat trade Whiteside
Receives Zeller/Kaminsky/2nd from Hornets

We upgrade center and shed 10 million in salary and still get a 1st round pick for moving down 13-15 spots.

Not a big fan of this one TBH...

I just want to see some sort of reasonable shake-up made. Our team needs to be reminded that if you aren't performing, then you could be gone.

[DY_nasty]

i feel like if you're gonna talk yourself into wall then you can talk yourself into much, much less painful things as well

like cmon guys lol

[316Hornets]

i feel like if you're gonna talk yourself into wall then you can talk yourself into much, much less painful things as well

like cmon guys lol

For real, if we can afford Wall, I say go after Tobias Harris.

[bravor]

The only big contract that would make some sense here imo is Griffin's contract. The big if being does the Pistons have any interest in Batum
But Batum/Bridges (+ picks obviously) for Griffin could work pretty well for both teams on the court.

Hard to predict what the Pistons want to do though as Jackson is obviously on the trade block and they badly need to improve at sf, sg then at pg. They have a decent bench though and a all star center.

[316Hornets]

The only big contract that would make some sense here imo is Griffin's contract. The big if being does the Pistons have any interest in Batum
But Batum/Bridges (+ picks obviously) for Griffin could work pretty well for both teams on the court.

Hard to predict what the Pistons want to do though as Jackson is obviously on the trade block and they badly need to improve at sf, sg then at pg. They have a decent bench though and a all star center.

Problem is that the East is so weak that most teams, even Washington and Detroit, are looking to add pieces, not subtract.

[Teal25]

I think the Pistons ride it out with Blake and Drummond. I don’t even think they expected Blake to be so good and embrace the transition from LA to Detroit the way he did. They’re in the exact same position we are in except we don’t have anyone near Drummond. Wish we would’ve traded for Blake.

What about this trade
Hornets Trade Batum/2020 Cavs 2nd/2021 Nets 2nd
Receives Ryan Anderson

Suns Trade Ryan Anderson/2019 2nd
Receives Reggie Jackson/Leur

Pistons trade Jackson/Leur
Receives Batum/2019 Suns 2nd/2020 Cavs 2nd/2021 Nets 2nd

We get off Batum’s last year and get someone who can rack up points in the regular season.

Phoenix gets a huge upgrade at point guard for the 31st or 32 2nd pick

I think Batum would play better next to Griffin.

[amcoolio]

I think the Pistons ride it out with Blake and Drummond. I don’t even think they expected Blake to be so good and embrace the transition from LA to Detroit the way he did. They’re in the exact same position we are in except we don’t have anyone near Drummond. Wish we would’ve traded for Blake.

What about this trade
Hornets Trade Batum/2020 Cavs 2nd/2021 Nets 2nd
Receives Ryan Anderson

Suns Trade Ryan Anderson/2019 2nd
Receives Reggie Jackson/Leur

Pistons trade Jackson/Leur
Receives Batum/2019 Suns 2nd/2020 Cavs 2nd/2021 Nets 2nd

We get off Batum’s last year and get someone who can rack up points in the regular season.

Phoenix gets a huge upgrade at point guard for the 31st or 32 2nd pick

I think Batum would play better next to Griffin.

We do that, no sense of holding on to Kemba because we'd be a worse team

Either we trade Kemba, or trade for a star that can take the load off Kemba. There isn't much in between.

[Bassman]

“Either we trade Kemba, or trade for a star that can take the load off Kemba. There isn't much in between.”

I am concerned this team will stay in the in-between, the land of paralysis, the valley of death via treadmill, due to fearing bold moves. I can understand that to a point, since their previous “bold moves” involved re-signing existing average players to large crippling contracts. Soon they will face the prospect of paying a popular, good to very good (but not great) player to a massive deal. Ready to do that MJ/Mitch? If he stinks up the bed it’ll be way worse than the current Batum/Marvin mess.

Kemba can do some amazing things, and he can also be a floundering little man on some nights. We can’t surround him with other very good players because our trade assets are average to really below average in value. What star can we trade for (and afford) to put beside Kemba? So far nobody.

Deal Kemba now when he has some high value, get a young quality player in here via his trade. Package some players to get Jabari, who would fit perfectly in our 4 spot, and not cost us our 2019 1st rounder. Focus on young promising players and build forward. I want to watch THAT team.

Murray
Monk
Bridges
Parker
Plumlee

[bravor]

You want to be the only charlotte fan watching the games ? That is pure selfishness

If you can't get a star or all star, you make a bet on a potential one who is not having play time (and there are a few, ask Clippers fans and alike).
Miles and Monk might be nice and improving, they are far from the jjj, Tatum, Doncic, etc guys, so i just don't see the point of trying to build something around them, especially if you have no idea how you will handle their future extension (nothing guarantees 1° that they will keep developing well and fast enough 2° that they will agree on team friendly extensions).

You still have better chance landing some good complementary pieces along Kemba and perform. The current trend might even help convincing Kemba to an extension in the Lowry range (which would be perfect on both sides, even better if Kemba was to accept a TO on 5th year). At least, It's highly unlikely that Kemba makes a 1st team so no supermax (if i understand those rules)

Hornets at worst are 1 season away from having flexibility if nothing changes... It's not that bad. Results are bad though, but that's more on the coaching staff to figure it out, especially with Cody not (yet) injured

[Splitta]

“Either we trade Kemba, or trade for a star that can take the load off Kemba. There isn't much in between.”

I am concerned this team will stay in the in-between, the land of paralysis, the valley of death via treadmill, due to fearing bold moves. I can understand that to a point, since their previous “bold moves” involved re-signing existing average players to large crippling contracts. Soon they will face the prospect of paying a popular, good to very good (but not great) player to a massive deal. Ready to do that MJ/Mitch? If he stinks up the bed it’ll be way worse than the current Batum/Marvin mess.

Kemba can do some amazing things, and he can also be a floundering little man on some nights. We can’t surround him with other very good players because our trade assets are average to really below average in value. What star can we trade for (and afford) to put beside Kemba? So far nobody.

Deal Kemba now when he has some high value, get a young quality player in here via his trade. Package some players to get Jabari, who would fit perfectly in our 4 spot, and not cost us our 2019 1st rounder. Focus on young promising players and build forward. I want to watch THAT team.

Murray
Monk
Bridges
Parker
Plumlee

I agree that Kemba's value is the highest it will probably ever be and the Hornets best move would be to get the best deal for him. If not, they should not pay him anymore than 20 to 25 million which he is likely not to accept. You pay him the max and you will have another batum situation and probably even worse. I believe Kupchak understands this and will hopefully make the right decision. I have a feeling he is much different than Cho who did whatever MJ or Clifford requested. Probably why we have the bad contracts now as Cho was a weak GM.

[yosemiteben]

If we don't pay Kemba less than Batum (with a higher salary cap) it'll be worse than the Batum situation...

Explain that logic.

[Splitta]

If we don't pay Kemba less than Batum (with a higher salary cap) it'll be worse than the Batum situation...

Explain that logic.

It probably will not be any worse than the Batum situation but I am afraid it would be just another bad contract that will continue to handicap the Hornets. Kemba is not a superstar and paying him like a superstar would be a big mistake regardless of the salary cap. I would expect that Kupchak will keep Kemba if he accepts a reasonable offer. If not, I would expect that Kemba will be traded. I may be wrong but I believe that Kupchak's plan is to get the salary cap fixed and still try to improve the team. Sort of like what Gettleman had to do with the Panthers. JMO

[GiggitySmalls]

Monk and Mkg and 2 2nds for Russell and Hollis Jefferson? I think it could work. The Hornets might be able to throw in Frank or Graham.

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