Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc

[Furinkazan]

Nikoleta and Nikola lol

and maybe kid will be named Niko
Isnt that cute?


anyway gz for both of them
hopefully it will give Vooch even more energy
like this much

[Magic_Johnny12]

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Bamba looks like a potential 20 point scorer and probably future all-star.

Or the next...


And let's not act like Bamba was a high draft pick and it can't happen, because BB was #8 pick playing in Europe. If he was playing in the NCAA he would go higher.

PS: Yes, I know that Bamba's hands are a little better than BB's.

Is this a serious post? Like you have time to take it back and say JUST JOKING just to save some face (even though we know you're lying).

Show me a clip where Biyombo does this in his ENTIRE career

Read on Twitter

or pull up from the 3 like this

Read on Twitter

Dont worry dude I wont hold my breathe

[IllMagic04]

No PG we get is gonna be our long term solution. We just need someone better then Grant IF the plan is to continue to push for the playoffs. Signing Rivers for the rest of the season is fine. Better then what we got. Lin would be good but I'm not trying to give up value for a 1 year thing. This offseason is where we can figure out the long term solution at pg.

[OrlandoNed]

Scratch the Rivers idea. He's signing with Memphis.

[Furinkazan]

Scratch the Rivers idea. He's signing with Memphis.

phew

[Furinkazan]

Seems like our team hasnt play in ages.I was hoping we play tonight.

[OrlandO]

Seems like our team hasnt play in ages.I was hoping we play tonight.

Might as well scribble in the loss... we tend to suck with too much rest. Spurs have won 5 of the last 6, too.

[Furinkazan]

No PG we get is gonna be our long term solution. We just need someone better then Grant IF the plan is to continue to push for the playoffs. .

Shelvin Mack?:D

[IllMagic04]

No PG we get is gonna be our long term solution. We just need someone better then Grant IF the plan is to continue to push for the playoffs. .

Shelvin Mack?:D

He'd be better then Grant yea

[SOUL]

Did someone really compare Bamba to Biyombo?

What?

[VFX]

I will say this in regards to Vucevic and Ross both.

If the don't intend to resign them, they should trade them both and just deal with the fallout.

I'm hard pressed to believe that they would play out the season with both of them and then let them both walk, but we'll see.

I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Then be prepared to sign journeymen and possibly overpay for a “decent” starter. This team needed to trade players yesterday. They’ll probably end up spending a lot of money on retaining this roster of vets that will barely make the playoffs.

[Magic_Johnny12]

I really want to go after DLO as a trade deadline acquisition. I know this topic has beaten to death, but if Brooklyn continues to lose and is out of playoff contention they might want to get some value for DLO (if they truly dont envision resigning him) and get his huge cap hold off the books (over 20m).

It's a bit tricky though as whatever move we make would have to be smart as we look to be in playoff contention so any trade involving Vucevic or Ross is probably a no go.

Would you guys be open to a simple trade. Simmons + '19 FRP (lottery protected) -- could end up in the #15 - #20 area for Russell.

Or should we stand pat and just offer him a lucrative contract come summer and call it a day? We will obviously would be in competition with a lot of teams (seems like half the NBA would be looking for either a replacement/upgrade at PG). So going this route could be problematic and cause a bidding war/ not getting our guy.

Thoughts?

[Magic_Johnny12]

Did someone really compare Bamba to Biyombo?

What?

Dude I've heard it ALL

[tiderulz]

I really want to go after DLO as a trade deadline acquisition. I know this topic has beaten to death, but if Brooklyn continues to lose and is out of playoff contention they might want to get some value for DLO (if they truly dont envision resigning him) and get his huge cap hold off the books (over 20m).

It's a bit tricky though as whatever move we make would have to be smart as we look to be in playoff contention so any trade involving Vucevic or Ross is probably a no go.

Would you guys be open to a simple trade. Simmons + '19 FRP (lottery protected) -- could end up in the #15 - #20 area for Russell.

Or should we stand pat and just offer him a lucrative contract come summer and call it a day? We will obviously would be in competition with a lot of teams (seems like half the NBA would be looking for either a replacement/upgrade at PG). So going this route could be problematic and cause a bidding war/ not getting our guy.

Thoughts?

if we did something like this, we should give the OKC pick, not our own pick

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

Gosh the highlight reel of Doncic makes me sad. We have no hope except for 8th seed runs and endless first round sweeps.

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Then be prepared to sign journeymen and possibly overpay for a “decent” starter. This team needed to trade players yesterday. They’ll probably end up spending a lot of money on retaining this roster.

Because this ownership and fanbase don’t care about winning. They care about being 8th seed playoffs teams so I can market and sell to tourists that we have a ‘playoff caliber’ team. LOL.

This misery should end and they should relocate with a new ownership group.

[IllMagic04]

I really want to go after DLO as a trade deadline acquisition. I know this topic has beaten to death, but if Brooklyn continues to lose and is out of playoff contention they might want to get some value for DLO (if they truly dont envision resigning him) and get his huge cap hold off the books (over 20m).

It's a bit tricky though as whatever move we make would have to be smart as we look to be in playoff contention so any trade involving Vucevic or Ross is probably a no go.

Would you guys be open to a simple trade. Simmons + '19 FRP (lottery protected) -- could end up in the #15 - #20 area for Russell.

Or should we stand pat and just offer him a lucrative contract come summer and call it a day? We will obviously would be in competition with a lot of teams (seems like half the NBA would be looking for either a replacement/upgrade at PG). So going this route could be problematic and cause a bidding war/ not getting our guy.

Thoughts?

if we did something like this, we should give the OKC pick, not our own pick

Nets say no. would you counter offer our 2020 first rounder top 10 protected? I think the accept that. We would just use the OKC pick so we still have a first rounder in 2020

[tiderulz]

I really want to go after DLO as a trade deadline acquisition. I know this topic has beaten to death, but if Brooklyn continues to lose and is out of playoff contention they might want to get some value for DLO (if they truly dont envision resigning him) and get his huge cap hold off the books (over 20m).

It's a bit tricky though as whatever move we make would have to be smart as we look to be in playoff contention so any trade involving Vucevic or Ross is probably a no go.

Would you guys be open to a simple trade. Simmons + '19 FRP (lottery protected) -- could end up in the #15 - #20 area for Russell.

Or should we stand pat and just offer him a lucrative contract come summer and call it a day? We will obviously would be in competition with a lot of teams (seems like half the NBA would be looking for either a replacement/upgrade at PG). So going this route could be problematic and cause a bidding war/ not getting our guy.

Thoughts?

if we did something like this, we should give the OKC pick, not our own pick

Nets say no. would you counter offer our 2020 first rounder top 10 protected? I think the accept that. We would just use the OKC pick so we still have a first rounder in 2020

how do you know the Nets say no? they are obviously banking on Dinwiddie, and they dont want that cap hold.

[IllMagic04]

if we did something like this, we should give the OKC pick, not our own pick

Nets say no. would you counter offer our 2020 first rounder top 10 protected? I think the accept that. We would just use the OKC pick so we still have a first rounder in 2020

how do you know the Nets say no? they are obviously banking on Dinwiddie, and they dont want that cap hold.

I don't know for sure but I think they would want more. My preference of course would be the OKC pick. If they say no would you walk away from the table or offer our 2020 pick ( top 10 protected). Im honeslty not sure. Id have to think about it. Could you explain the cap hold thing to me? im not clear on that

[pepe1991]

No PG we get is gonna be our long term solution. We just need someone better then Grant IF the plan is to continue to push for the playoffs. .

Shelvin Mack?:D

Watch on YouTube

So, I'm back up in the Disneyland (hustling snow)
Running things to keep my swing (whole night long)
Letting all the people know
That I'm back to run PG

Return of the mack (starting PG)
Return of the mack (Dj back off)
Return of the mack (don't you know)
You know that I'll be back (to run the show)