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Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #5! 

Post#41 » by basketballwacko2 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:05 am

Illmatic12 wrote:Chris Paul has THE worst contract in the NBA. Idk why people are tiptoeing around this.

By the time he's 36 his hamstrings will be string cheese. It might get to the point where the Rockets beg him to accept a medical retirement like Bosh so they can get his salary off the books


I would not want to pay him the kind of money he gets but Wall will be worse starting next year, he misses a lot of games too and his deal is 4 years starting next year. That last year $47 million at 32 years old. :crazy:

If Paul did end in a medical retirement the Rocks would save a lot of cap space. But I don't think there is much chance either of them will end that way.
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Post#42 » by basketballwacko2 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:07 am

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LuessiT wrote:This list is tainted already. I don't think the Wizzards would find it troublesome to drop Wall to some desperate team trying to get better.


agree completely. No way is Wall harder to deal than Chris Paul.


For me the difference is the trade kicker that gives Wall a massive pay raise this season. And I think there are some competing teams that would take the risk on Paul.


I don't think the trade kicker is legal it would put his salary over the max. I need someone who knows more than I do to tell us.
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Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #5! 

Post#43 » by basketballwacko2 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:14 am

Guys like Parsons and Mozgov who either can't play or stay healthy or just suck so bad that no sane coach would put them in a game are worse to me than a guy like Wiggins or even Wall who can play and be productive. I've said this before about Wall, that contract is so massive IDK how you construct anything more than a mediocre team. Wiggins is almost as bad but when the TWolves give KAT his massive paycheck they will have $54 million going to two guys next year. By 2022 it will be $67 million just to those 2 guys. They better hope they both turn into monster players.

Washington has the same issue with Beal and Porter and throw Wall on top of that with a little dash of Ian Mahinmi and it's a giant excrement sandwich.
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Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #5! 

Post#44 » by babyjax13 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:20 am

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agree completely. No way is Wall harder to deal than Chris Paul.


For me the difference is the trade kicker that gives Wall a massive pay raise this season. And I think there are some competing teams that would take the risk on Paul.


I don't think the trade kicker is legal it would put his salary over the max. I need someone who knows more than I do to tell us.


Wall deal before July 1 is unlikely in part due to complexities surrounding his 15 percent trade kicker -- believed to be the first trade kicker that would be spread over the length of a supermax contract. Trade kickers cannot lift a player's salary above his maximum in the year he is traded, meaning Wall's payout could shrink if the Wizards trade him in 2019-20 once he shifts onto his supermax deal -- and perhaps close to $0 in that 2019-20 season, sources say.

If they trade him before then, they might owe him a giant lump sum, sources say. (Wall's 2018-19 salary of $19.2 million is well below his eligible maximum because he signed his current deal under a lower salary-cap figure.) None of this is 100 percent clear in the collective bargaining agreement, and it will need to be studied further if it proves relevant. Rises in salary cap at some point during the length of Wall's supermax could trigger further trade kicker payments to him.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25187751/zach-lowe-john-wall-bradley-beal-washington-wizards-nba

Wall would make about $14 million more this season because of it.
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Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #5! 

Post#45 » by Illmatic12 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:31 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Chris Paul has THE worst contract in the NBA. Idk why people are tiptoeing around this.

By the time he's 36 his hamstrings will be string cheese. It might get to the point where the Rockets beg him to accept a medical retirement like Bosh so they can get his salary off the books


I would not want to pay him the kind of money he gets but Wall will be worse starting next year, he misses a lot of games too and his deal is 4 years starting next year. That last year $47 million at 32 years old. :crazy:

If Paul did end in a medical retirement the Rocks would save a lot of cap space. But I don't think there is much chance either of them will end that way.

Chris Paul gets $44M at 37yo :o
And 32 isn't really that old by modern NBA standards..CP3 is 33yo right now and already can't play back to backs, lol.. yikes

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/HOU.html
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Post#46 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:47 am

Paul 17
Dieng 8
Mozgov 5
JJ 2
Waiters 1

Hayward 8
Powell 6
Felicio 5
Love 4
Plumlee 3
Gallinari 1
Hill 1
Aldridge 1
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Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #5! 

Post#47 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:58 am

Illmatic12 wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Chris Paul has THE worst contract in the NBA. Idk why people are tiptoeing around this.

By the time he's 36 his hamstrings will be string cheese. It might get to the point where the Rockets beg him to accept a medical retirement like Bosh so they can get his salary off the books


I would not want to pay him the kind of money he gets but Wall will be worse starting next year, he misses a lot of games too and his deal is 4 years starting next year. That last year $47 million at 32 years old. :crazy:

If Paul did end in a medical retirement the Rocks would save a lot of cap space. But I don't think there is much chance either of them will end that way.

Chris Paul gets $44M at 37yo :o
And 32 isn't really that old by modern NBA standards..CP3 is 33yo right now and already can't play back to backs, lol.. yikes

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/HOU.html


His contract only lasts one more year than Batum. I would rather take my chances with Paul. In my opinion the odds of Paul rebounding have become somewhat underrated. Paul was always a player expected to age well due to skill and IQ, the problem here is almost definitely injury not age. He went from .265 WS/48, 7.1 BPM to .126 WS/48, 1.4 BPM. That that is injury numbers, not got old numbers. I think Paul getting right over the summer and becoming a .200 WS+ player in 19-20 is very plausible. Is the odds of him becoming a star player again next season really worse than Hayward's?

Likewise with the size and length of Wiggins contract, I would take my chance with Paul. I think Parsons is the worst choice of the top 3. Getting out of it in a year and a half is not that bad.
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