Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[prophet_of_rage]

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.

Frank puts up games of 0 in every category. Think of that. He plays 30 minutes and will post a trillion (zero in every statistical category) What is the point of playing him if he is not aggressive. He will drive once a quarter. Your point guard drives once a quarter! Where can this guy be played if that's what he does when he's in his own head?

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[Cookies4Life]

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.

Frank puts up games of 0 in every category. Think of that. He plays 30 minutes and will post a trillion (zero in every statistical category) What is the point of playing him if he is not aggressive. He will drive once a quarter. Your point guard drives once a quarter! Where can this guy be played if that's what he does when he's in his own head?

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The issue I have with your post is you make it seem like Frank is some kind of finished product who can't possibly work on his weaknesses.

He doesn't drive enough in general? Ok I agree with that, how about giving him some actual playing time to work on his decision making capabilities in the pick and roll. You're only going to start working on playing on instincts in real live sessions, not being a spectator on the bench especially with the garbage players that play in front of him (you don't want him emulating their games.)

Look at Mudiay as an example. He had many issues- careless with his dribbling, turnover prone, poor free throw shooter and could barely finish around the rim. Everyone thought he was a huge draft bust who couldn't possibly improve on his weaknesses. fast forward to year 4 and while he's still not that good of a player, he's improved exponentially from his time in Denver.

Frank's a 20 year old kid that came from halfway across the world that didn't play in an AAU system. Give the kid a little bit of time to improve on his issues. He has eclipsed his career high in 3 games this year so he's obviously not as horrendous as some people are making him out to be. He's just not improving on the trajectory that some of the fanbase expects; not everyone is going to be Kristaps Porzingis coming out of the draft.

[prophet_of_rage]

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.

Frank puts up games of 0 in every category. Think of that. He plays 30 minutes and will post a trillion (zero in every statistical category) What is the point of playing him if he is not aggressive. He will drive once a quarter. Your point guard drives once a quarter! Where can this guy be played if that's what he does when he's in his own head?

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The issue I have with your post is you make it seem like Frank is some kind of finished product who can't possibly work on his weaknesses.

He doesn't drive enough in general? Ok I agree with that, how about giving him some actual playing time to work on his decision making capabilities in the pick and roll. You're only going to start working on playing on instincts in real live sessions, not being a spectator on the bench especially with the garbage players that play in front of him (you don't want him emulating their games.)

Look at Mudiay as an example. He had many issues- careless with his dribbling, turnover prone, poor free throw shooter and could barely finish around the rim. Everyone thought he was a huge draft bust who couldn't possibly improve on his weaknesses. fast forward to year 4 and while he's still not that good of a player, he's improved exponentially from his time in Denver.

Frank's a 20 year old kid that came from halfway across the world that didn't play in an AAU system. Give the kid a little bit of time to improve on his issues. He has eclipsed his career high in 3 games this year so he's obviously not as horrendous as some people are making him out to be. He's just not improving on the trajectory that some of the fanbase expects; not everyone is going to be Kristaps Porzingis coming out of the draft.

Frank played the same way in France. Dump off the ball and get to the corner out of the way. This isn't a skill set issue. It is a mindset. You lot never talk about why he doesn't even rebound as a 6'7 guard. Forget the shooting. He doesn't rebound. He doesn't make plays. He can't finish his drives. He's a player that needs practice! Failing under spotlights hasn't helped him. So it likely won't help him.


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[Cookies4Life]

Frank puts up games of 0 in every category. Think of that. He plays 30 minutes and will post a trillion (zero in every statistical category) What is the point of playing him if he is not aggressive. He will drive once a quarter. Your point guard drives once a quarter! Where can this guy be played if that's what he does when he's in his own head?

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The issue I have with your post is you make it seem like Frank is some kind of finished product who can't possibly work on his weaknesses.

He doesn't drive enough in general? Ok I agree with that, how about giving him some actual playing time to work on his decision making capabilities in the pick and roll. You're only going to start working on playing on instincts in real live sessions, not being a spectator on the bench especially with the garbage players that play in front of him (you don't want him emulating their games.)

Look at Mudiay as an example. He had many issues- careless with his dribbling, turnover prone, poor free throw shooter and could barely finish around the rim. Everyone thought he was a huge draft bust who couldn't possibly improve on his weaknesses. fast forward to year 4 and while he's still not that good of a player, he's improved exponentially from his time in Denver.

Frank's a 20 year old kid that came from halfway across the world that didn't play in an AAU system. Give the kid a little bit of time to improve on his issues. He has eclipsed his career high in 3 games this year so he's obviously not as horrendous as some people are making him out to be. He's just not improving on the trajectory that some of the fanbase expects; not everyone is going to be Kristaps Porzingis coming out of the draft.

Frank played the same way in France. Dump off the ball and get to the corner out of the way. This isn't a skill set issue. It is a mindset. You lot never talk about why he doesn't even rebound as a 6'7 guard. Forget the shooting. He doesn't rebound. He doesn't make plays. He can't finish his drives. He's a player that needs practice! Failing under spotlights hasn't helped him. So it likely won't help him.


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So you're harping on him because he isn't a demon on the boards like Dennis Rodman? Or excuse me, let's keep it PG related- you don't like the fact he doesn't rebound like Westbrook? DO you see the kind of guys who rebound for the team? Kanter and Vonleh rip rebounds away from other teammates all the time; his lack of being a good rebounder is not that big of a concern especially since he does a very good job at boxing out the opposition. I've seen him box out essentially guys that play the 1-4 on a regular basis.

You're harping now of his style that hasn't changed since he played in Europe? Do you know how they play basketball in Europe? They don't have guys with high ball usage; in fact no player on any of the teams average more than 20-25 minutes per game and they almost always start their veterans over the young guys even if the younger players are better.

In Europe they put a heavy emphasis on playing team ball, not your basic run of the mill pick and roll sequences and heavy isolation settings with your PG. So we're basically condemning Frank because he's not a high usage isolation player like the one's that are molded in the AAU programs over here? It's not pragmatic to assume he'll morph into an AAU style player in one year after being taught to play the game vastly different overseas.

He got drafted, went back to France, got injured in the playoffs which caused him to start a bit behind the 8 ball as an NBA player (didn't play in the SL if I recall and barely received run during preseason.) Than he had to play under a head coach with no prior coaching experience who for some reason thought we should be competing for the playoffs and made Jarret Jack the defacto starting PG for the better part of nearly 2/3rds of the season.

Give the kid some time man, I don't understand the level of impatience with this fanbase considering everyone knows we're tanking. So if we're tanking, why are we being so critical of a young guy trying to develop? Let the kid develop for christ sakes, this team isn't going anywhere, we already know the limits of the veteran players (guys like Hardaway and Kanter aren't going to magically improve at this stages of their career,) so let the young kids play.

If Frank is SO horrible as you've mentioned, why shouldn't we play him? Won't he secure more losses for us in that regard?

it's a win-win situation to play the kid- who knows maybe he'll shock half of this ridiculous fanbase with their unrealistic expectations and make marked improvement if he's seeing 25 minutes plus a night and is allowed to WORK THROUGH HIS MISTAKES.

[dakomish23]

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.

Only 60

[prophet_of_rage]

The issue I have with your post is you make it seem like Frank is some kind of finished product who can't possibly work on his weaknesses.

He doesn't drive enough in general? Ok I agree with that, how about giving him some actual playing time to work on his decision making capabilities in the pick and roll. You're only going to start working on playing on instincts in real live sessions, not being a spectator on the bench especially with the garbage players that play in front of him (you don't want him emulating their games.)

Look at Mudiay as an example. He had many issues- careless with his dribbling, turnover prone, poor free throw shooter and could barely finish around the rim. Everyone thought he was a huge draft bust who couldn't possibly improve on his weaknesses. fast forward to year 4 and while he's still not that good of a player, he's improved exponentially from his time in Denver.

Frank's a 20 year old kid that came from halfway across the world that didn't play in an AAU system. Give the kid a little bit of time to improve on his issues. He has eclipsed his career high in 3 games this year so he's obviously not as horrendous as some people are making him out to be. He's just not improving on the trajectory that some of the fanbase expects; not everyone is going to be Kristaps Porzingis coming out of the draft.

Frank played the same way in France. Dump off the ball and get to the corner out of the way. This isn't a skill set issue. It is a mindset. You lot never talk about why he doesn't even rebound as a 6'7 guard. Forget the shooting. He doesn't rebound. He doesn't make plays. He can't finish his drives. He's a player that needs practice! Failing under spotlights hasn't helped him. So it likely won't help him.


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So you're harping on him because he isn't a demon on the boards like Dennis Rodman? Or excuse me, let's keep it PG related- you don't like the fact he doesn't rebound like Westbrook? DO you see the kind of guys who rebound for the team? Kanter and Vonleh rip rebounds away from other teammates all the time; his lack of being a good rebounder is not that big of a concern especially since he does a very good job at boxing out the opposition. I've seen him box out essentially guys that play the 1-4 on a regular basis.

You're harping now of his style that hasn't changed since he played in Europe? Do you know how they play basketball in Europe? They don't have guys with high ball usage; in fact no player on any of the teams average more than 20-25 minutes per game and they almost always start their veterans over the young guys even if the younger players are better.

In Europe they put a heavy emphasis on playing team ball, not your basic run of the mill pick and roll sequences and heavy isolation settings with your PG. So we're basically condemning Frank because he's not a high usage isolation player like the one's that are molded in the AAU programs over here? It's not pragmatic to assume he'll morph into an AAU style player in one year after being taught to play the game vastly different overseas.

He got drafted, went back to France, got injured in the playoffs which caused him to start a bit behind the 8 ball as an NBA player (didn't play in the SL if I recall and barely received run during preseason.) Than he had to play under a head coach with no prior coaching experience who for some reason thought we should be competing for the playoffs and made Jarret Jack the defacto starting PG for the better part of nearly 2/3rds of the season.

Give the kid some time man, I don't understand the level of impatience with this fanbase considering everyone knows we're tanking. So if we're tanking, why are we being so critical of a young guy trying to develop? Let the kid develop for christ sakes, this team isn't going anywhere, we already know the limits of the veteran players (guys like Hardaway and Kanter aren't going to magically improve at this stages of their career,) so let the young kids play.

If Frank is SO horrible as you've mentioned, why shouldn't we play him? Won't he secure more losses for us in that regard?

it's a win-win situation to play the kid- who knows maybe he'll shock half of this ridiculous fanbase with their unrealistic expectations and make marked improvement if he's seeing 25 minutes plus a night and is allowed to WORK THROUGH HIS MISTAKES.

Rodman? Westbrook? See, you build up ridiculous standards. How about getting 4 no matter what else is happening. Anybody can box out.

Yes they play team ball in Europe. They play it here too. But there are aggressive players in Europe. Frank wasn't one of them. He was athletically superior there. He isn't here. And he wasn't a pure point there, either.

As for impatience, you and some of the Frank supporters (see how it's done, MP?) are the ones losing patience because he's been DNP'ed 3 and then 2 games! And hasn't been given 30 minutes no matter what.

I've said he needs a lot more practice reps.

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[Phish Tank]

If frank breaks someone’s ankle with a crossover, fiz will jizz in his pants and play him every single game afterwards


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[prophet_of_rage]

The issue I have with your post is you make it seem like Frank is some kind of finished product who can't possibly work on his weaknesses.

He doesn't drive enough in general? Ok I agree with that, how about giving him some actual playing time to work on his decision making capabilities in the pick and roll. You're only going to start working on playing on instincts in real live sessions, not being a spectator on the bench especially with the garbage players that play in front of him (you don't want him emulating their games.)

Look at Mudiay as an example. He had many issues- careless with his dribbling, turnover prone, poor free throw shooter and could barely finish around the rim. Everyone thought he was a huge draft bust who couldn't possibly improve on his weaknesses. fast forward to year 4 and while he's still not that good of a player, he's improved exponentially from his time in Denver.

Frank's a 20 year old kid that came from halfway across the world that didn't play in an AAU system. Give the kid a little bit of time to improve on his issues. He has eclipsed his career high in 3 games this year so he's obviously not as horrendous as some people are making him out to be. He's just not improving on the trajectory that some of the fanbase expects; not everyone is going to be Kristaps Porzingis coming out of the draft.

Frank played the same way in France. Dump off the ball and get to the corner out of the way. This isn't a skill set issue. It is a mindset. You lot never talk about why he doesn't even rebound as a 6'7 guard. Forget the shooting. He doesn't rebound. He doesn't make plays. He can't finish his drives. He's a player that needs practice! Failing under spotlights hasn't helped him. So it likely won't help him.


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So you're harping on him because he isn't a demon on the boards like Dennis Rodman? Or excuse me, let's keep it PG related- you don't like the fact he doesn't rebound like Westbrook? DO you see the kind of guys who rebound for the team? Kanter and Vonleh rip rebounds away from other teammates all the time; his lack of being a good rebounder is not that big of a concern especially since he does a very good job at boxing out the opposition. I've seen him box out essentially guys that play the 1-4 on a regular basis.

You're harping now of his style that hasn't changed since he played in Europe? Do you know how they play basketball in Europe? They don't have guys with high ball usage; in fact no player on any of the teams average more than 20-25 minutes per game and they almost always start their veterans over the young guys even if the younger players are better.

In Europe they put a heavy emphasis on playing team ball, not your basic run of the mill pick and roll sequences and heavy isolation settings with your PG. So we're basically condemning Frank because he's not a high usage isolation player like the one's that are molded in the AAU programs over here? It's not pragmatic to assume he'll morph into an AAU style player in one year after being taught to play the game vastly different overseas.

He got drafted, went back to France, got injured in the playoffs which caused him to start a bit behind the 8 ball as an NBA player (didn't play in the SL if I recall and barely received run during preseason.) Than he had to play under a head coach with no prior coaching experience who for some reason thought we should be competing for the playoffs and made Jarret Jack the defacto starting PG for the better part of nearly 2/3rds of the season.

Give the kid some time man, I don't understand the level of impatience with this fanbase considering everyone knows we're tanking. So if we're tanking, why are we being so critical of a young guy trying to develop? Let the kid develop for christ sakes, this team isn't going anywhere, we already know the limits of the veteran players (guys like Hardaway and Kanter aren't going to magically improve at this stages of their career,) so let the young kids play.

If Frank is SO horrible as you've mentioned, why shouldn't we play him? Won't he secure more losses for us in that regard?

it's a win-win situation to play the kid- who knows maybe he'll shock half of this ridiculous fanbase with their unrealistic expectations and make marked improvement if he's seeing 25 minutes plus a night and is allowed to WORK THROUGH HIS MISTAKES.

And Frank was given more than a chance to work through his issues at the start of the season. He doesn't deserve any more minutes than any of the other guards just to make mistakes. Trier should have minutes, too. Dotson. Mudiay. Burke. Hardaway. Lee. Their agents are working for them, too, you know.

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[newyorker4ever]

i mean we both aren't in his head so we don't know for sure. I honestly looking for ways to see how we can fix the issue. I'm open to any ideas...

It might take a change of scenery for him which would suck for us if we traded him and that's exactly what it was and he shows himself to be what we're all hoping for him and the return we get for him isn't gonna be all that great for us.

I honestly think that would be an extreme measure. He has had really good games here its just a matter of consistency and believing he can do it game in and game out. That first year with KP he was helping close out games...he has the ability.

I'd rather we just keep him and let him play through his issues but he actually has to get consistent playing time to be able to do that and to show everyone what he can do with those consistent minutes and there's no reason he shouldn't be playing. I love most of what Fiz is but i think his ego is a little too big sometimes and he thinks whatever he does is the right thing. He gets and has gotten talked up a lot by the media and by quite a few star players but to me he hasn't proven all that much as a head coach. They were good in Memphis but they had some really good players there to.

For Frank he needs to get his head right and push through whatever it is that's holding him back. There's times when you can see that he doesn't want anything to do with having the ball in his hands and will just stop the offense and wait for someone to get open to pass it to and run to the corner. There's times when he misses 2-3 shots and that will be it for him and he'll just get in his head and stop shooting. Come on kid you're on a team with Timmy Hardaway, you don't see how many shots a game he misses but keeps on shooting and the same for how Knox was his first 15-20 games where he couldn't make a shot but that kid had no problem keeping on shooting. I think he thinks he's hurting the team and maybe the players will get mad at him or something which just shows his youth but he's gotta block that shyt out and just keep playing no matter how much you miss. The coaching staff should be locking this into his head every game and tell him to keep shooting which they probably are but it isn't working.

We can all come up with what we think it is with Frank and why Fiz really isn't playing the kid but we're all just assuming cause we don't and probably won't ever really know. Lets not forget that Fiz used to get a lot of talk about how he doesn't like the euro guys or doesn't know how to communicate well with them which if true is not only troubling for Frank but also KP.

GET YOUR SHYT TOGETHER FRANKIE.

[fatalogic]

Like most things I think Knicks Film schoo had a pretty good take on it. Perhaps when Fiz say struggling he means in approach not scoring. If he bases his rotations on approach then his rotations make sense to me. Can’t tell me he is trying to win with one of the worst defensive units in the league.

The thing most people seem to be ignoring is that with David Fizdale, results are only part of the equation. For him, approach seems to matter just as much.

In no uncertain terms, Frank has been horrible on the offensive end this year, and that is maybe not a strong enough word to describe his performance. Of the 159 players this season with a 16 usage rate or higher who’ve played at least 10 games and 20 minutes a night, Ntilikina’s 43.6 true shooting percentage ranks dead last. Yet that didn’t stop Fizdale from giving him another bite at the apple after a few games on the bench earlier this month.

Had Frank maintained the approach he had in those first three games, regardless of the results, he likely would have been able to give his mom a Merry Christmas. That wasn’t the case though. We know Frank is doing what the coaching staff asks when he drives the lane and shoots without hesitation. In his two outbursts against Charlotte and Cleveland, Ntilikina had seven and nine drives, respectively, to go with 24 total shots. In the five games after that, he averaged only 5.2 drives and 5.6 field goal attempts.

That might not seem like a drastic enough difference to warrant a seat back on the bench, but when you factor in the results – 21% shooting over those five games – yeah, it kind of does.

https://knicksfilmschool.com/2018/12/26/where-were-at-with-frank-ntilikina/

This is Macri - a long term Frankophobe, not Knickstape, a long term Frankophile. It gives their site some kind of push/pull attraction (in theory), I suppose. Frankly, I think we are all well past needing to read the trolls so we can get excited, but it's a marketing strategy of some sort I suppose.

How is he a Frankophobe he defends Frank all the time. I guess not being blindly obsessed makes him a hater? Nothing in that article is troll bait. If you actually read it, he makes sound arguments based on stats. Frank gets pulled when he doesn’t drive and hesitates not because he misses shots.

[1999]

I’m all for benching frank if he’s gonna respond the way he did last time. Hopefully this time it lasts. Everybody is making it about oh frank got benched again because he didn’t chuck shots. No, he was benched because he was being a net negative. His rebounding, defense, offense, everything took a dive. At the very least he has to find a way to stay aggressive on both ends if he wants to stay on the court. I hope he comes back hungry.


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[dakomish23]

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.

Frank puts up games of 0 in every category. Think of that. He plays 30 minutes and will post a trillion (zero in every statistical category) What is the point of playing him if he is not aggressive. He will drive once a quarter. Your point guard drives once a quarter! Where can this guy be played if that's what he does when he's in his own head?

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THJ shooting since the POR game: 35% FG 33% 3PT

Frank shooting since the POR game : 35% FG 36% 3PT

THJ MPG since the POR game: 34.4 / 0 DNP-CDs

Frank MPG since the POR game 18.1 MPG / 4 DNP-CDs

It isn’t about the output. Stop using that as an excuse.

[cuyankees]

Now the rotations make sense, Frank doesn't get burn bc he's sleeping poorly.

My guess is he's sleeping wOUT his blanky from FR and sucking his thumb.

[CDAZ]

I remember when the knock against euros was they didn't play defense.......

[mpharris36]

I’m all for benching frank if he’s gonna respond the way he did last time. Hopefully this time it lasts. Everybody is making it about oh frank got benched again because he didn’t chuck shots. No, he was benched because he was being a net negative. His rebounding, defense, offense, everything took a dive. At the very least he has to find a way to stay aggressive on both ends if he wants to stay on the court. I hope he comes back hungry.


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I hate to break it to you but there are plenty of net negatives on this team....especially guys currently starting....

[DLTGWH]

Frank is a horrendous offensive basketball player right now. Both the eye test and advanced stats tell you that. Can he improve? Sure. But to what? Just bad? Average?

IMO the answer is to stop with the PG campaign- he doesn't have the explosiveness/ball handling needed to succeed at the role. No amount of growth or development will increase these traits to anything better than less than average.

Focus all energy on improving his outside shooting. There's good value in a knockdown shooter with defensive versatility. But with his current 35% from the field and 29% from 3point land he's unplayable.

[CDAZ]

Is there a chart that shows Frank's opponents averages and what they average against him?

[1999]

I’m all for benching frank if he’s gonna respond the way he did last time. Hopefully this time it lasts. Everybody is making it about oh frank got benched again because he didn’t chuck shots. No, he was benched because he was being a net negative. His rebounding, defense, offense, everything took a dive. At the very least he has to find a way to stay aggressive on both ends if he wants to stay on the court. I hope he comes back hungry.


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I hate to break it to you but there are plenty of net negatives on this team....especially guys currently starting....

Ok, then my argument remains we continue to go in circles when it comes to blaming fiz (I’m not saying you specifically). The coach can only play who is on his roster and I trust him to make that decision. Everybody outside of Tim has been benched at one point this season. I agree, there is a lot of dead weight on the roster. Either way, Frank can’t have games where he’s literally filling up the box scores with zeros. We can agree to disagree about the effectiveness of the benching but I think/hope in the long run he will get the edge he needs. Otherwise, yes what’s the point in not playing him in the gleague. He needs reps. Let’s see how he responds.


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[mpharris36]

I’m all for benching frank if he’s gonna respond the way he did last time. Hopefully this time it lasts. Everybody is making it about oh frank got benched again because he didn’t chuck shots. No, he was benched because he was being a net negative. His rebounding, defense, offense, everything took a dive. At the very least he has to find a way to stay aggressive on both ends if he wants to stay on the court. I hope he comes back hungry.


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I hate to break it to you but there are plenty of net negatives on this team....especially guys currently starting....

Ok, then my argument remains we continue to go in circles when it comes to blaming fiz (I’m not saying you specifically). The coach can only play who is on his roster and I trust him to make that decision. Everybody outside of Tim has been benched at one point this season. I agree, there is a lot of dead weight on the roster. Either way, Frank can’t have games where he’s literally filling up the box scores with zeros. We can agree to disagree about the effectiveness of the benching but I think/hope in the long run he will get the edge he needs. Otherwise, yes what’s the point in not playing him in the gleague. He needs reps. Let’s see how he responds.


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well to be fair the only lineup that he went away from that was playing defense was a NET positive lineup and that including Frank...so however you want to see it is fine but Fiz is all over the place right now.

[prophet_of_rage]

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.

Frank puts up games of 0 in every category. Think of that. He plays 30 minutes and will post a trillion (zero in every statistical category) What is the point of playing him if he is not aggressive. He will drive once a quarter. Your point guard drives once a quarter! Where can this guy be played if that's what he does when he's in his own head?

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THJ shooting since the POR game: 35% FG 33% 3PT

Frank shooting since the POR game : 35% FG 36% 3PT

THJ MPG since the POR game: 34.4 / 0 DNP-CDs

Frank MPG since the POR game 18.1 MPG / 4 DNP-CDs

It isn’t about the output. Stop using that as an excuse.

Why don't you compare him to the other point guards? Comparing him to THJ is useless since they don't play the same position. What is his output compared to Mudiay? What is his output compared to Trier?

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