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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#341 » by kamaze » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:23 pm

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kamaze wrote:The coach has said he took Dlo out of the Philly game because he was lackadaisical with the ball (maybe that's why he turns the ball over?) maybe that's why he doesn't play in the 4th...


"he doesnt play in the 4th" is a myth. he leads all our PGs in 4th quarter minutes. kenny goes with the hot hand/sits guys turning it over/struggling in D. sometimes thats DLo. more often its dinwiddie.


Yeah I was about to say that was an outright lie.


Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#342 » by SpeedyG » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:25 pm

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Why is it that Spencer's game will be even better with a true #1 in the line up but D'Angelo's won't?
They will both improve with a true #1 threat, but it won't change their roles and strengths/weaknesses, so at the end of the day, they will both be in the same spot as they are now.

Kenny has preferred Caris and Spencer this season late in games.

Caris and Spencer gives more length. They are both better penetrators. They both get to the line. And while not as good as Russell, they can both hit from three.

Not really sure what you all are debating here. We've seen time and time again how much more difficulty Russell has against pressure defenses, which is what he'll see a lot in close games (and pretty much somewhat negates his ball control capability since teams just won't give him as much room as they do early on).

Essentially, Russell has one role in close games...as a shooter. Games he's hot and rolling? He will get burn late. Games he's not cooking as much? He will sit behind Caris/Spencer.


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I think the issue was making a mountain out of a molehill so to speak...Kenny is going to roll with the hot hand or match up that gives us the best chance to win, it's kind of just how it is and less than a knock on D'Angelo Russell. As you've said, on nights where Russell is cooking he'll be out there. Last night Kenny stuck with that group because he found them to be most effective, it wasn't like Russell was playing poorly. Some nights its Spencer, some nights its Russell. Also, Russell and LeVert closed out more than a few games together before he got hurt so its not a forgone conclusion that Russell will be eating the pine unless he's shooting 70% from the field every night. He might use all three of them at the same time as well.
Spencer has been playing at another level though since Caris went down. Which is kind of the point of some of the media/social media comments. If he is already spotty as a closer without Caris, then it's not going to be made easier when Caris comes back.

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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#343 » by SpeedyG » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:27 pm

There is no way Russell accepts anywhere close to what Spencer is getting.

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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#344 » by LKIRNets » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:21 pm

kamaze wrote:
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"he doesnt play in the 4th" is a myth. he leads all our PGs in 4th quarter minutes. kenny goes with the hot hand/sits guys turning it over/struggling in D. sometimes thats DLo. more often its dinwiddie.


Yeah I was about to say that was an outright lie.


Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


Dinwiddie hit his 3's last night. Joe Harris was on fire. There are 2 guard positions. Kemba goes nuts on every guard, they had to put RHJ who was in for Afro. There's C/G/G. Two positions left 4 and 3. That was Dudley and Rodi.

It clearly was match ups and Dinwiddie had a hot night and so did Joey Buckets.

You coming up in here to make another claim is downright pathetic bruh. Especially when all this was cuz the Hornets went small and put Batum at 5 and Harrison at the 4.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#345 » by kamaze » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:53 pm

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Yeah I was about to say that was an outright lie.


Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


Dinwiddie hit his 3's last night. Joe Harris was on fire. There are 2 guard positions. Kemba goes nuts on every guard, they had to put RHJ who was in for Afro. There's C/G/G. Two positions left 4 and 3. That was Dudley and Rodi.

It clearly was match ups and Dinwiddie had a hot night and so did Joey Buckets.

You coming up in here to make another claim is downright pathetic bruh. Especially when all this was cuz the Hornets went small and put Batum at 5 and Harrison at the 4.


Teams must go small a lot then because DLo is on the bencg in crunch time a lot. :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#346 » by DarkXaero » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:27 pm

SpeedyG wrote:There is no way Russell accepts anywhere close to what Spencer is getting.

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Yep, my thinking is that the minimum he'll settle for is $15 mill/season. Also teams like the Magic and Suns aren't going to make it easy for us. Both need starting PGs badly and will be interested in D Lo.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#347 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:17 am

kamaze wrote:
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"he doesnt play in the 4th" is a myth. he leads all our PGs in 4th quarter minutes. kenny goes with the hot hand/sits guys turning it over/struggling in D. sometimes thats DLo. more often its dinwiddie.


Yeah I was about to say that was an outright lie.


Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


its is a statistical fact. we know facts are not your strong suit... just like when you said levert got an extension and russell didnt.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#348 » by LKIRNets » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:46 am

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Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


Dinwiddie hit his 3's last night. Joe Harris was on fire. There are 2 guard positions. Kemba goes nuts on every guard, they had to put RHJ who was in for Afro. There's C/G/G. Two positions left 4 and 3. That was Dudley and Rodi.

It clearly was match ups and Dinwiddie had a hot night and so did Joey Buckets.

You coming up in here to make another claim is downright pathetic bruh. Especially when all this was cuz the Hornets went small and put Batum at 5 and Harrison at the 4.


Teams must go small a lot then because DLo is on the bencg in crunch time a lot. :lol:


you weird bruh.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#349 » by kamaze » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:19 am

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kamaze wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Yeah I was about to say that was an outright lie.


Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


its is a statistical fact. we know facts are not your strong suit... just like when you said levert got an extension and russell didnt.


I didn't say extension I said contract you POS.

Fact As of now LeVert will be on the team next year and DLo won't keep pretending that's not the case though clown.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#350 » by Curns13 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:15 am

kamaze wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


its is a statistical fact. we know facts are not your strong suit... just like when you said levert got an extension and russell didnt.


I didn't say extension I said contract you POS.

Fact As of now LeVert will be on the team next year and DLo won't keep pretending that's not the case though clown.

How can someone actively root against a player from his own team. This guy hasn’t hit his missus, hasn’t been a selfish team mate, has done nothing but been a good pro every minute he’s been here, and yet you hate him in an unwarranted way that is without explanation. Its not just that you think Dinwiddie is better or that you don’t think Dlo is very good, you actually want Dlo to fail. What sort of fan are you?
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#351 » by SpeedyG » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:28 pm

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SpeedyG wrote:There is no way Russell accepts anywhere close to what Spencer is getting.

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Yep, my thinking is that the minimum he'll settle for is $15 mill/season. Also teams like the Magic and Suns aren't going to make it easy for us. Both need starting PGs badly and will be interested in D Lo.
I think 16 starting (with annual raise) is the minimum Russell will accept and I agree that is what the Suns will offer at the minimum.

Kind of hoping we somehow manage to package him and Crabbe (with Russell going to the Suns, which is probably his 1b destination anyway) to free up cap space for us (though such a deal won't happen until Caris is back).

At the rate we are going, this places our 1st round pick at the right spot to take a Morant or Garland.

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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#352 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:37 pm

kamaze wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


its is a statistical fact. we know facts are not your strong suit... just like when you said levert got an extension and russell didnt.


I didn't say extension I said contract you POS.

Fact As of now LeVert will be on the team next year and DLo won't keep pretending that's not the case though clown.


Fact: Rookie cant play on your team if you dont sing them.

i know facts are tough for you. you sign players who arent yet under contract. you dont sign the ones who are under contract. i know thats like 2nd grade logic and a bit advanced for you but maybe go ask an adult to explain it
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#353 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:38 pm

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kamaze wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
its is a statistical fact. we know facts are not your strong suit... just like when you said levert got an extension and russell didnt.


I didn't say extension I said contract you POS.

Fact As of now LeVert will be on the team next year and DLo won't keep pretending that's not the case though clown.

How can someone actively root against a player from his own team. This guy hasn’t hit his missus, hasn’t been a selfish team mate, has done nothing but been a good pro every minute he’s been here, and yet you hate him in an unwarranted way that is without explanation. Its not just that you think Dinwiddie is better or that you don’t think Dlo is very good, you actually want Dlo to fail. What sort of fan are you?


A terrible one.

Dlo has been one of the hardest working guys despite getting the most criticism. He has improved a ton across the board and in his approach and maturity.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#354 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:38 pm

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kamaze wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Yeah I was about to say that was an outright lie.


Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


Dinwiddie hit his 3's last night. Joe Harris was on fire. There are 2 guard positions. Kemba goes nuts on every guard, they had to put RHJ who was in for Afro. There's C/G/G. Two positions left 4 and 3. That was Dudley and Rodi.

It clearly was match ups and Dinwiddie had a hot night and so did Joey Buckets.

You coming up in here to make another claim is downright pathetic bruh. Especially when all this was cuz the Hornets went small and put Batum at 5 and Harrison at the 4.


How many games has Jarrett Allen sat in the 4th for match up purposes? No one makes a peep about that, does that mean the Nets are going to give up on him as well? Absolutely not.

If it comes down to financials/cap space and the Nets have to part ways with Russell because he is being offered more money elsewhere (possibly) or we need to clear space for two max contracts (doubtful), so be it. But if not, I would highly doubt he goes anywhere next season outside of those two scenarios. Fans may hate this kid, but I don't think the front office or Kenny for that matter feels that way towards him at all.

Personally, I hope he remains a Net. He's been a good kid, as far as I can tell a solid teammate, he responds to coaching, and when he gets in his zone he's a problem. I'd like to see what he becomes when he adds strength to his frame as he continues to mature mentally and physically.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#355 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:42 pm

kamaze wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Yeah right everyone notices he's not in the game late it's Dinwiddie, but keep believing that bs if it makes you feel better.


its is a statistical fact. we know facts are not your strong suit... just like when you said levert got an extension and russell didnt.


I didn't say extension I said contract you POS.

Fact As of now LeVert will be on the team next year and DLo won't keep pretending that's not the case though clown.


LeVert didn't get a contract. Stop lying, and stop calling people pieces of **** because you are being called out for being an outright liar.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#356 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:49 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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kamaze wrote:
I didn't say extension I said contract you POS.

Fact As of now LeVert will be on the team next year and DLo won't keep pretending that's not the case though clown.

How can someone actively root against a player from his own team. This guy hasn’t hit his missus, hasn’t been a selfish team mate, has done nothing but been a good pro every minute he’s been here, and yet you hate him in an unwarranted way that is without explanation. Its not just that you think Dinwiddie is better or that you don’t think Dlo is very good, you actually want Dlo to fail. What sort of fan are you?


A terrible one.

Dlo has been one of the hardest working guys despite getting the most criticism. He has improved a ton across the board and in his approach and maturity.


How someone can claim to be a Nets fan but actively root for one of the team's players to fail is beyond me. It's absurd and is literally an example of cutting off your nose to spite your own face. Russell succeeding should be everyone's concern if you care for the well being of this franchise, which is trending upward and Russell is a big part of that regardless of him not playing at times in the 4th or not.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#357 » by kamaze » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:11 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Curns13 wrote:How can someone actively root against a player from his own team. This guy hasn’t hit his missus, hasn’t been a selfish team mate, has done nothing but been a good pro every minute he’s been here, and yet you hate him in an unwarranted way that is without explanation. Its not just that you think Dinwiddie is better or that you don’t think Dlo is very good, you actually want Dlo to fail. What sort of fan are you?


A terrible one.

Dlo has been one of the hardest working guys despite getting the most criticism. He has improved a ton across the board and in his approach and maturity.


How someone can claim to be a Nets fan but actively root for one of the team's players to fail is beyond me. It's absurd and is literally an example of cutting off your nose to spite your own face. Russell succeeding should be everyone's concern if you care for the well being of this franchise, which is trending upward and Russell is a big part of that regardless of him not playing at times in the 4th or not.


Where do you get the idea I'm rooting for him to fail I just point out his flaws.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#358 » by Prokorov » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:36 am

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A terrible one.

Dlo has been one of the hardest working guys despite getting the most criticism. He has improved a ton across the board and in his approach and maturity.


How someone can claim to be a Nets fan but actively root for one of the team's players to fail is beyond me. It's absurd and is literally an example of cutting off your nose to spite your own face. Russell succeeding should be everyone's concern if you care for the well being of this franchise, which is trending upward and Russell is a big part of that regardless of him not playing at times in the 4th or not.


Where do you get the idea I'm rooting for him to fail I just point out his flaws.


you actively root for him to fail. its a fact. we know you suck at facts. maybe go ask an adult to help you figure it out
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Re: GT: Nets vs. Hornets 12/26/2018 7pm EST 

Post#359 » by kamaze » Thu Jan 3, 2019 10:38 am

Prokorov wrote:
kamaze wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
How someone can claim to be a Nets fan but actively root for one of the team's players to fail is beyond me. It's absurd and is literally an example of cutting off your nose to spite your own face. Russell succeeding should be everyone's concern if you care for the well being of this franchise, which is trending upward and Russell is a big part of that regardless of him not playing at times in the 4th or not.


Where do you get the idea I'm rooting for him to fail I just point out his flaws.


you actively root for him to fail. its a fact. we know you suck at facts. maybe go ask an adult to help you figure it out


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