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Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1241 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:01 pm

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Skin wrote:Terrrrrible. Evan doesn't have the clout to act like Lebron.

I wouldn't care if Evan kicked his teammates in the balls if he played like Lebron.
hes not acting like LeBron he’s acting like literally any NBA player ever. Everyone complains about fouls or no calls.

He needs to focus on improving himself and not look for blame.

Who is he looking to blame and for what? We're talking about not liking calls / no calls. There's plenty of evidence that proves he's simply having an off year.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1242 » by Skin » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:03 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:hes not acting like LeBron he’s acting like literally any NBA player ever. Everyone complains about fouls or no calls.

He needs to focus on improving himself and not look for blame.

Who is he looking to blame and for what? We're talking about not liking calls / no calls. There's plenty of evidence that proves he's simply having an off year.

He needs to blame himself for having an off year. He probably can't stand that his position on the totem poll has changed.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1243 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:04 pm

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:clap: :clap: for Gordon for this.

Shouldn't be needed since it was clear as day from the replay. Why would they go out of their way to make an incorrect "correction"?

Anyone have a gif or something?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1244 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:06 pm

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Skin wrote:He needs to focus on improving himself and not look for blame.

Didn't he legit lose us a game a few weeks ago when he got a tech going to the bench? Maybe didn't lose it but put it out of reach, can't remember. Either way he complains a lot for sure, it's kinda cringey.

It was that awfully-officiated Nuggets game where the Magic were getting screwed. And where Murray(?) got away with a lot worse. I wouldn’t read too much into that.

at least he's not throwing the ball at the stanchion Our guys aren't allowed to show emotion during games apparently. Unless their names are Mo Bamba, Gordon, Or JI of course.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1245 » by BadHombre » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:11 pm

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No PG
No SF
SG 26 years old


Only PG worth drafting that was available was SGA. I’d have been happy with him but there would have been a meltdown if we took him over Bamba on draft night.:

Would you have traded #6 pick (Bamba) for #11 (Shai) and #13 (Jerome Robinson or whatever)?


No, but if WeHam had done it I could have understood. Definitely would have had a “What?! We gave away Bamba?!” moment, but I was always quite high on SGA so could have been happy with him. I haven’t seen anything from whoever the other pick was yet, and would have preferred using the 2nd pick on Mitchell Robinson instead.

I was hoping we’d make a move using one of Vucevic or Fournier to move up for a 2nd late lottery pick though. I figured Denver and Charlotte might cut a deal if we gave them a ready-now player and took back some of their dead salary. That’s how I hoped we would have added SGA.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1246 » by OrlandO » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:15 pm

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:clap: :clap: for Gordon for this.

Shouldn't be needed since it was clear as day from the replay. Why would they go out of their way to make an incorrect "correction"?

Anyone have a gif or something?

There's one in the twitter comments. AG tried to tip it to himself, but didn't get a handle on it so it got away from him and went up into the air where Vuc was able to easily grab it. For it to be credited to AG he had to have tipped it with purpose to a teammate...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1247 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:19 pm

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Skin wrote:He needs to focus on improving himself and not look for blame.

Who is he looking to blame and for what? We're talking about not liking calls / no calls. There's plenty of evidence that proves he's simply having an off year.

He needs to blame himself for having an off year. He probably can't stand that his position on the totem poll has changed.
Ok.. So again who is he blaming? I've watched at least two post game interviews where he literally blames himself for his poor play.
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2018/11/01/evan-fourniers-shot-is-missing-for-orlando-magic/
I’ve just got to get my **** together,” Fournier said. “I’ve been playing terrible. I’m a big-minutes guy and I can’t play like that. We need everybody on this team and I’m just not playing well enough for my team. It’s a big reason why we keep losing these games. I know if I play the way I can, we’d be winning right now.”

I...Dont know what the **** else he has to say. :lol:

Also I dont know what position on the totem pole you're talking about. He's been a top three player on our team for for at least the last two seasons. You're just spewing a bunch of random, unsubstantiated anti Fournier claims.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1248 » by BadHombre » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:20 pm

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Skin wrote:He needs to focus on improving himself and not look for blame.

Who is he looking to blame and for what? We're talking about not liking calls / no calls. There's plenty of evidence that proves he's simply having an off year.

He needs to blame himself for having an off year. He probably can't stand that his position on the totem poll has changed.


Fournier is just an incredibly fiery competitor. He’s always been that way, and it’s nice to see someone showing some passion on the court.

Whilst this team will eventually need to move and consolidate some pieces to turn this roster into a contender, I hope Fournier isn’t one of those casualties. If he were on a team like the Warriors, Spurs, Jazz, Raptors, Celtics or even this year’s Bucks, Nuggets or Kings, he’d probably fit and look a lot better in those more complete teams, and we would all probably be wishing we had him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1249 » by Skin » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:40 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:Who is he looking to blame and for what? We're talking about not liking calls / no calls. There's plenty of evidence that proves he's simply having an off year.

He needs to blame himself for having an off year. He probably can't stand that his position on the totem poll has changed.


Fournier is just an incredibly fiery competitor. He’s always been that way, and it’s nice to see someone showing some passion on the court.

Whilst this team will eventually need to move and consolidate some pieces to turn this roster into a contender, I hope Fournier isn’t one of those casualties. If he were on a team like the Warriors, Spurs, Jazz, Raptors, Celtics or even this year’s Bucks, Nuggets or Kings, he’d probably fit and look a lot better in those more complete teams, and we would all probably be wishing we had him.

If he were on one of those teams making $17M a year, then those teams would not be as good as they are without him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1250 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:45 pm

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Skin wrote:He needs to blame himself for having an off year. He probably can't stand that his position on the totem poll has changed.


Fournier is just an incredibly fiery competitor. He’s always been that way, and it’s nice to see someone showing some passion on the court.

Whilst this team will eventually need to move and consolidate some pieces to turn this roster into a contender, I hope Fournier isn’t one of those casualties. If he were on a team like the Warriors, Spurs, Jazz, Raptors, Celtics or even this year’s Bucks, Nuggets or Kings, he’d probably fit and look a lot better in those more complete teams, and we would all probably be wishing we had him.

If he were on one of those teams making $17M a year, then those teams would not be as good as they are without him.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1251 » by NavalAviator94 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:59 pm

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Fournier is just an incredibly fiery competitor. He’s always been that way, and it’s nice to see someone showing some passion on the court.

Whilst this team will eventually need to move and consolidate some pieces to turn this roster into a contender, I hope Fournier isn’t one of those casualties. If he were on a team like the Warriors, Spurs, Jazz, Raptors, Celtics or even this year’s Bucks, Nuggets or Kings, he’d probably fit and look a lot better in those more complete teams, and we would all probably be wishing we had him.

If he were on one of those teams making $17M a year, then those teams would not be as good as they are without him.

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This is what happens when Skin can't find anything bad to say about Vuc.....and has to have someone to bitch about. I have an idea, focus your energy on specifically how bad Jerian Grant has been for this team.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1252 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 10:28 pm

Evan is doing fine/same as years before in everything but 3 %.

And despite him struggling to shoot he still has 6th highest eFG% among regular rotation guys and 4th highest TS%

But ofc it's a shame that his 3 ball is so off this year
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1253 » by OrlandO » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:00 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Evan is doing fine/same as years before in everything but 3 %.

And despite him struggling to shoot he still has 6th highest eFG% among regular rotation guys and 4th highest TS%

But ofc it's a shame that his 3 ball is so off this year

His 3-ball has returned to norm for like the past month at 42%. He's also taking less shots than usual at 11.8 fga over the past month. His man defense has been solid as well. He's still making some head-scratching turnovers, but overall he's not playing poorly anymore.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1254 » by Skin » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:01 pm

NavalAviator94 wrote:
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Skin wrote:If he were on one of those teams making $17M a year, then those teams would not be as good as they are without him.

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This is what happens when Skin can't find anything bad to say about Vuc.....and has to have someone to bitch about. I have an idea, focus your energy on specifically how bad Jerian Grant has been for this team.

Evan and Vuc still have low trade value and we're basking in medicority. Let me know if that changes.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1255 » by BadHombre » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:07 pm

Skin wrote:
BadHombre wrote:
Skin wrote:He needs to blame himself for having an off year. He probably can't stand that his position on the totem poll has changed.


Fournier is just an incredibly fiery competitor. He’s always been that way, and it’s nice to see someone showing some passion on the court.

Whilst this team will eventually need to move and consolidate some pieces to turn this roster into a contender, I hope Fournier isn’t one of those casualties. If he were on a team like the Warriors, Spurs, Jazz, Raptors, Celtics or even this year’s Bucks, Nuggets or Kings, he’d probably fit and look a lot better in those more complete teams, and we would all probably be wishing we had him.

If he were on one of those teams making $17M a year, then those teams would not be as good as they are without him.


Depends who it’s in exchange for.
Warriors - Igoudala, 34, $16M
Spurs - Mills, 30, $12M / Gay, 32, $10M / Bertans, 25, $7M
Jazz - Favors, 27, $16.9M / Exum, 23, $9.6M / Korver, 37, $7.5M

Etc

You could swap Fournier for one or two of those guys and he’d have a bigger impact on those teams for the same salary.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1256 » by npiper17 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:21 pm

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:clap: :clap: for Gordon for this.

Shouldn't be needed since it was clear as day from the replay. Why would they go out of their way to make an incorrect "correction"?


I pity the person(s) whose job it is to watch week-old NBA games to check for things like this.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1257 » by NavalAviator94 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:26 pm

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This is what happens when Skin can't find anything bad to say about Vuc.....and has to have someone to bitch about. I have an idea, focus your energy on specifically how bad Jerian Grant has been for this team.

Evan and Vuc still have low trade value and we're basking in medicority. Let me know if that changes.


All the more reason not to trade them.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1258 » by Skin » Fri Jan 4, 2019 12:09 am

NavalAviator94 wrote:
Skin wrote:
NavalAviator94 wrote:

This is what happens when Skin can't find anything bad to say about Vuc.....and has to have someone to bitch about. I have an idea, focus your energy on specifically how bad Jerian Grant has been for this team.

Evan and Vuc still have low trade value and we're basking in medicority. Let me know if that changes.


All the more reason not to trade them.

All the more reason to gripe about them.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1259 » by NavalAviator94 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:22 am

Skin wrote:
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Skin wrote:Evan and Vuc still have low trade value and we're basking in medicority. Let me know if that changes.


All the more reason not to trade them.

All the more reason to gripe about them.


Touché but I still like them.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#1260 » by basketballRob » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:31 am

I hear the Bulls are going to waive Payne and we can sign 10 day contracts starting Saturday.

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