Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

[Dn4sty]

I think if we are in fact looking for a backup big, Bobby Portis could be a possibility. Not sure if he really fits into their long term plans, now with Lauri and WCJ, and he will be in RFA this summer, and I'm not sure they'll look to pay him. He does things well that our second unit lacks, he's a decent scorer that can hit threes at a decent clip for a big (35% the last two years on 3.1 attempts each), and is a great rebounder (25% Dreb%, top 25 mark in the league) something that our team is miserable at whenever Steve isn't out there.

As for what we'd have to give up, I'm not completely sure. If the Bulls are just looking to get anything back for him before he hits RFA, perhaps cash and a couple second round picks, maybe including TLC or even Diallo. What do you guys think?

I’d be more than happy with Portis. I don’t think I could include Diallo

[slick_watts]

if diallo is the price to pay for an immediate upgrade, pay it. bruhs, russell westbrook is in decline. we don't have six years to wait for diallo, even if he isn't a scrub.

[SecondTake]

if diallo is the price to pay for an immediate upgrade, pay it. bruhs, russell westbrook is in decline. we don't have six years to wait for diallo, even if he isn't a scrub.

Diallo is OK depending who you get. TFerg should be out of the question at this point though, as should all the other starters.

[ThunderBolt]

Diallo for prince? Sure. For Portis? No thanks.

[Kizz Fastfists]

It depends on what you think the ceiling of the team is. If you think adding a solid upgrade to the bench pushes the team to the WCF then you do it and hope you get lucky with injuries, etc along the way to get to the finals and maybe get a championship. If you think the upgrade keeps you at a 1st round exit then you don't make the move. I don't see anything that I consider realistic that elevates the team enough to make a move. I'd be more likely to make some minor selling moves, i.e. trade Noel for a pick, that doesn't seem to hurt their chances to make the playoffs while gearing up for the rebuild that is approaching faster than expected with Russ dropping off faster than anticipated.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Diallo for prince? Sure. For Portis? No thanks.

Prince is about the perfect player for the Thunder to add. A young player still on their rookie contract with upside. I think it takes a lot more than Diallo to get Prince.

[CROklahoma]

Taueran would be a good acquisition.

[ThunderBolt]

Diallo for prince? Sure. For Portis? No thanks.

Prince is about the perfect player for the Thunder to add. A young player still on their rookie contract with upside. I think it takes a lot more than Diallo to get Prince.

The FRP we traded atlanta was lottery protected and not top 20. Its rolls over to the next two years if it doesn't convey. I don't think we can really afford to lower the protections much more on it. I didn't realize that it doesn't roll over in to second round picks. What a horrible trade.

[SecondTake]

It depends on what you think the ceiling of the team is. If you think adding a solid upgrade to the bench pushes the team to the WCF then you do it and hope you get lucky with injuries, etc along the way to get to the finals and maybe get a championship. If you think the upgrade keeps you at a 1st round exit then you don't make the move. I don't see anything that I consider realistic that elevates the team enough to make a move. I'd be more likely to make some minor selling moves, i.e. trade Noel for a pick, that doesn't seem to hurt their chances to make the playoffs while gearing up for the rebuild that is approaching faster than expected with Russ dropping off faster than anticipated.

I think a solid move makes us championship contenders. Russ is already on the upswing, and his better IQ, better defense will make up for marginal offensive decline. PG is playing like KD. Tferg is rising, Grant and Adams are putting up double digit numbers. We have the best starting five in the NBA. If we get a 3+D guy we could turn that bench in to something serviceable. This year GSW bench is also pretty bad, so we just need to be less bad then they are to compete.

[Dadouv47]

It depends on what you think the ceiling of the team is. If you think adding a solid upgrade to the bench pushes the team to the WCF then you do it and hope you get lucky with injuries, etc along the way to get to the finals and maybe get a championship. If you think the upgrade keeps you at a 1st round exit then you don't make the move. I don't see anything that I consider realistic that elevates the team enough to make a move. I'd be more likely to make some minor selling moves, i.e. trade Noel for a pick, that doesn't seem to hurt their chances to make the playoffs while gearing up for the rebuild that is approaching faster than expected with Russ dropping off faster than anticipated.

I think a solid move makes us championship contenders. Russ is already on the upswing, and his better IQ, better defense will make up for marginal offensive decline. PG is playing like KD. Tferg is rising, Grant and Adams are putting up double digit numbers. We have the best starting five in the NBA. If we get a 3+D guy we could turn that bench in to something serviceable. This year GSW bench is also pretty bad, so we just need to be less bad then they are to compete.

Is it so hard to see that Gs is coasting? They will be unbeatable comes playoff time.

Well, if by a solid move u mean getting rid of Schroeder and Patterson for Beal then adding a couple of players for the minimum, then yeah maybe we have a shot to win it all.

[SecondTake]

It depends on what you think the ceiling of the team is. If you think adding a solid upgrade to the bench pushes the team to the WCF then you do it and hope you get lucky with injuries, etc along the way to get to the finals and maybe get a championship. If you think the upgrade keeps you at a 1st round exit then you don't make the move. I don't see anything that I consider realistic that elevates the team enough to make a move. I'd be more likely to make some minor selling moves, i.e. trade Noel for a pick, that doesn't seem to hurt their chances to make the playoffs while gearing up for the rebuild that is approaching faster than expected with Russ dropping off faster than anticipated.

I think a solid move makes us championship contenders. Russ is already on the upswing, and his better IQ, better defense will make up for marginal offensive decline. PG is playing like KD. Tferg is rising, Grant and Adams are putting up double digit numbers. We have the best starting five in the NBA. If we get a 3+D guy we could turn that bench in to something serviceable. This year GSW bench is also pretty bad, so we just need to be less bad then they are to compete.

Is it so hard to see that Gs is coasting? They will be unbeatable comes playoff time.

Well, if by a solid move u mean getting rid of Schroeder and Patterson for Beal then adding a couple of players for the minimum, then yeah maybe we have a shot to win it all.

GS is favorite but I dont believe theyll be as good as the past 2 years. Draymond has declined substantially, their bench has been eroded and KD has his foot out the door. This team isnt unbeatable. OKC on the other hand have PG playing at a career high MVP level, and the overall starting 5 is pretty much unbeatable. I don't think we need Beal type talent - all our losses have been so close that if we just had a league average 3 point shooter/free throw maker we would be #1 in the west. We need a solid 3D guy that can raise the offense of that bench - doing so just marginally would make OKC a serious contender. GSW would still be the favorite, but OKC would have a real chance.

[Mattv]

I don't see anyway we get Prince. Moving Ferguson doesn't make sense. We could lower pick protections with Atlanta but that's not enough.

Taking away our pick protection a 2nd and Paterson might do it.Then sign Bruno Caboclo from the G-leauge to take over Noel spot until he returns then he could be the back PF.



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[acheema0]

I don't see anyway we get Prince. Moving Ferguson doesn't make sense. We could lower pick protections with Atlanta but that's not enough.

Taking away our pick protection a 2nd and Paterson might do it.Then sign Bruno Caboclo from the G-leauge to take over Noel spot until he returns then he could be the back PF.



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There's no reason for Atlanta to do that deal unless they completely hate Prince for whatever reason. They would be taking on PPat's player option next year which is worth the second round pick in itself, and simply lowering protections wouldn't be enough for a player of Prince's caliber who's on a rookie scale deal for this year and next.

[ThunderBolt]

I don't see anyway we get Prince. Moving Ferguson doesn't make sense. We could lower pick protections with Atlanta but that's not enough.

Taking away our pick protection a 2nd and Paterson might do it.Then sign Bruno Caboclo from the G-leauge to take over Noel spot until he returns then he could be the back PF.



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There's no reason for Atlanta to do that deal unless they completely hate Prince for whatever reason. They would be taking on PPat's player option next year which is worth the second round pick in itself, and simply lowering protections wouldn't be enough for a player of Prince's caliber who's on a rookie scale deal for this year and next.

Diallo, lowered protection on pick and TLC for filler is probably the best we could do. It probably isn’t enough but you never know what other GMs like. Travis Schlenk wants to build a knock of version of the warriors so i dont know that Diallo is the kind of player he covets.

[getrichordie]

It’s looking more and more like Schroder + Porter Jr. to Dallas...


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[ThunderBolt]

Is prince’s value hurt a little by the fact he’s missed almost 20 consecutive games?

[Dn4sty]

It’s looking more and more like Schroder + Porter Jr. to Dallas...


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Huh?

[Kizz Fastfists]

It’s looking more and more like Schroder + Porter Jr. to Dallas...

Did Cuban hit his head recently and suffer brain damage that I am unaware of? There is no way Dallas would be stupid enough to take on Schroder. I don't think there is any chance they take on Porter, although that might be possible, as they want max cap space this off-season. They are wanting to lure someone to play with Doncic to build a contender. They aren't trying put themselves in a situation where they are capped out with no shot at being more than a first round exit.

[Pillendreher]

It’s looking more and more like Schroder + Porter Jr. to Dallas...


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Oh, does it?

[acheema0]

Just looking at other potential big man targets since that report came out, another one who could be a possibility and a nice fit is Noah Vonleh. He's shooting well from 3 this year (41.6% on 2.1 attempts) and is also a good defensive rebounder (24.3% DREB%). Unlike Portis, he moves his feet really well defensively and would also probably come cheaper as he is on an expiring deal and with the Knicks big aspirations this summer, I'm not sure how interested they'd be in keeping him longterm. An expiring contract (TLC, Abrines) and a second or two would probably be enough.