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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#261 » by oreon » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:35 am

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Horrible coaching on Spo though. The media needs him to ask him to explain why he iced Winslow when he had it going. Its was stupid. Last year it took him half a season to put the ball in Winslow hands. I feel like Spo is holding him back. Him and the organization need to get their priorities straight. Winslow, J Rich, Bam , DJJ are the future. They should be getting the bulk of the minutes, whatever the other guys get doesnt not matter.


The thing is this though: Winslow’s responsibilities are beyond offensive playmaker. Spo relies on him to also guard the best player in crunch time and run the offense. Our team hinges on versatility to compensate for not having one guy who is extremely proficient and reliable in one area - except for tj and rich from beyond the arc. So risking overplaying Winslow - who needs to learn to remain consistently reliable as a scorer anyway - is too costly, given the amount of responsibility he has overall.

I think it’s wild that this team is even above .500. Our best players are Winslow and rich when the rest of the semi decent teams all seem like they have a clear cut all star. I think spo is doing a great job giving rich and Winslow room to grow this year while still winning games.


He's 22 not 36. Playing him 36 - 38 mins a night won't kill him. And when you are an elite player you are expected to score and do everything else. That's the level we want Justise to get to. Subbing a guy who's hot with 4 mins in the 3rd and putting him back 6 mins in the 4th is horrible coaching, plain and simple. You get sit a guy that long and expect him to maintain his rythmn. It's no shocker Justise didnt score in the 4th. Bringing Justise in with 6, 7 mins left can't continue. He's gotta be back with 8 mins left, like most starters are in the NBA. I don't know anyone rational who watched this game who didnt think we almost lost because of Spo. He has to a better job with his rotations
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#262 » by wadenation305 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:40 am

I've been watching spo coach from his very first year, and I must say the man is an absolute robot. He absolutely has zero feel for the game, if it's not in his programming he can't comprehend or perceive it. Thankfully we got the W, but it wasn't to his good coaching credit. It's beyond me how someone can see a player clearly on fire and putting the team on his back, then freaking put em on ice. He has never ever in all his years of coaching have had that. The man knows how to get the best of the players when it comes to defense, but that's it, I don't even buy that he motivates them cause I think that more on them, Winslow, Rich, and Bam for sure want it and are motivated all on their own. I see spo as a assistant coach that can tell them main coach about defense, but he just doesn't have it to be a main coach on this team.
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#264 » by gom » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:04 am

PizzaLord305 wrote:I think it’s wild that this team is even above .500. Our best players are Winslow and rich when the rest of the semi decent teams all seem like they have a clear cut all star. I think spo is doing a great job giving rich and Winslow room to grow this year while still winning games.


Agreed. We have been campaigning for Spo to let Winslow, Richardson, and Adebayo to play. We've also added Derrick Jones to the mix. I'm impressed with our progress. We have been letting the kids play and getting results, when most of us expected to lose when this happened. Tonight was without Dragic and Whiteside, two of our mainstays for the last few years, and we looked decent.

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#265 » by goodboy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:10 am

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PizzaLord305 wrote:I think it’s wild that this team is even above .500. Our best players are Winslow and rich when the rest of the semi decent teams all seem like they have a clear cut all star. I think spo is doing a great job giving rich and Winslow room to grow this year while still winning games.


Agreed. We have been campaigning for Spo to let Winslow, Richardson, and Adebayo to play. We've also added Derrick Jones to the mix. I'm impressed with our progress. We have been letting the kids play and getting results, when most of us expected to lose when this happened. Tonight was without Dragic and Whiteside, two of our mainstays for the last few years, and we looked decent.

Good game, OP! Thanks!

Couldn't have said it better myself gom! Thanks!
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#268 » by Wiltside » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:15 am

It is comforting to know we have Richardson, Winslow, Bam and DJJ locked up on good value contracts. DJJ expiring end of next season and will be looking for a raise.

Really like DJJ in this mix. Doesn’t need a play run for him. Just hustles, rebounds, intercepts and makes open shots. Hard to believe he’s only 21 years old.
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#269 » by PizzaLord305 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:17 am

wadenation305 wrote:I've been watching spo coach from his very first year, and I must say the man is an absolute robot. He absolutely has zero feel for the game, if it's not in his programming he can't comprehend or perceive it. Thankfully we got the W, but it wasn't to his good coaching credit. It's beyond me how someone can see a player clearly on fire and putting the team on his back, then freaking put em on ice. He has never ever in all his years of coaching have had that. The man knows how to get the best of the players when it comes to defense, but that's it, I don't even buy that he motivates them cause I think that more on them, Winslow, Rich, and Bam for sure want it and are motivated all on their own. I see spo as a assistant coach that can tell them main coach about defense, but he just doesn't have it to be a main coach on this team.


Idk about this. I see a chest master. Dude beats teams with a 2-3 zone in 2019 that has guys flustered. His rotations have been fire. I think spo has been the best in-game coach in the nba this season. I think he’s taken over the lead from Stevens. Maybe Mike Malone wins the coty award, but spo is literally coaching the best rn.
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#270 » by goodboy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:20 am

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#271 » by Wiltside » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:22 am

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Somebody photoshop Rich on that kids face lmao
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#272 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:23 am

Wiltside wrote:It is comforting to know we have Richardson, Winslow, Bam and DJJ locked up on good value contracts. DJJ expiring end of next season and will be looking for a raise.

Really like DJJ in this mix. Doesn’t need a play run for him. Just hustles, rebounds, intercepts and makes open shots. Hard to believe he’s only 21 years old.

Good thing with DJJ is we will have full bird rights. We good. The young core is locked and loaded. Now just need to purge the roster of some of these veterans for some better fits. We need a starting PF. JJ needs to be coming off the bench. Hassan and TJ are going to be extremely difficult to move until next year. Not sure anyone takes an injured Dragic and if they did we would be selling low.
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#273 » by goodboy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:29 am

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Somebody photoshop Rich on that kids face lmao

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#274 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:30 am

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#275 » by al bondiga » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:47 am

ok, spo may not be the best coach ever and he makes s lot of mistakes, but his results have been well above average and that is a fact.
I think that if we dare add DJJ to the list of prospects in the heat (winslow, jrich, bam)… we have to add O and TJ and even dion
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#276 » by gom » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:49 am

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Wiltside wrote:It is comforting to know we have Richardson, Winslow, Bam and DJJ locked up on good value contracts. DJJ expiring end of next season and will be looking for a raise.

Really like DJJ in this mix. Doesn’t need a play run for him. Just hustles, rebounds, intercepts and makes open shots. Hard to believe he’s only 21 years old.

Good thing with DJJ is we will have full bird rights. We good. The young core is locked and loaded. Now just need to purge the roster of some of these veterans for some better fits. We need a starting PF. JJ needs to be coming off the bench. Hassan and TJ are going to be extremely difficult to move until next year. Not sure anyone takes an injured Dragic and if they did we would be selling low.


Having bird rights means we can go over the cap to sign him, however he will be an unrestricted free agent, and we won't have the right of first refusal. The best bet is to sign him to an extension in advance. How much do you think we should offer him? My guess is the full non-taxpayer MLE, but I fully expect some here will lash out at the proposal of extending a "mediocre player" rather than giving Butler $35M+ per season.

al bondiga wrote:ok, spo may not be the best coach ever and he makes s lot of mistakes, but his results have been well above average and that is a fact.
I think that if we dare add DJJ to the list of prospects in the heat (winslow, jrich, bam)… we have to add O and TJ and even dion


DJJ is between Winslow & Bam's age though right? TJ is a lot older.

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#277 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:59 am

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Wiltside wrote:It is comforting to know we have Richardson, Winslow, Bam and DJJ locked up on good value contracts. DJJ expiring end of next season and will be looking for a raise.

Really like DJJ in this mix. Doesn’t need a play run for him. Just hustles, rebounds, intercepts and makes open shots. Hard to believe he’s only 21 years old.

Good thing with DJJ is we will have full bird rights. We good. The young core is locked and loaded. Now just need to purge the roster of some of these veterans for some better fits. We need a starting PF. JJ needs to be coming off the bench. Hassan and TJ are going to be extremely difficult to move until next year. Not sure anyone takes an injured Dragic and if they did we would be selling low.


Someone nice is going to fall in the draft for us too, I c it
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#278 » by KingDavid » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:58 am

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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#279 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:11 pm

Very pleased with Winnie, Rich, Bam, DJJ as our young core.

Need to use this season to see what works around them, how to develope and maxamize them.

Hassan+JJ+TJ+Dragon are making what a couple of legit max guys would make. You see where i'm going.
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Re: Memphis @ Miami Saturday 5pm 

Post#280 » by al bondiga » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:17 pm

what I meant to say is that, although I like DJJ A LOT, he still has a lot to prove in order to be mentioned with bam, jrich, Winnie
the only thing he has proven is that he can outjump everybody... his frame, skills, shot, defense, etc. etc. are "underdeveloped"
hell what I interpret is that if GOD give's me that jumping ability and 30 yrs... I could be an nba prospect. my suggestion is that you take it easy with him (don't get your hopes up)

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