1/21 | G46: Oklahoma City Thunder at New York Knicks - 11:30AM CST

NaturalThunder · Post #61 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:55 pm

Pillendreher wrote:I like the adjusted rotations. Although I still think that playing guys 10 minutes straight might be a little bit much.

For those of us not watching, how did Donovan adjust the rotations? I'm guessing he finally decided playing the starting 5 the entire 1st quarter and starting the 2nd quarter with an all-bench lineup featuring some of the worst bench players in the league was a terrible idea?

How did he stagger it today?

SecondTake · Post #62 » by **SecondTake** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:59 pm

Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

Pillendreher · Post #63 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:01 pm

NaturalThunder wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:I like the adjusted rotations. Although I still think that playing guys 10 minutes straight might be a little bit much.

For those of us not watching, how did Donovan adjust the rotations? I'm guessing he finally decided playing the starting 5 the entire 1st quarter and starting the 2nd quarter with an all-bench lineup featuring some of the worst bench players in the league was a terrible idea?

How did he stagger it today?

Just a little different I'd say. Adams got some minutes with the bench. Noel some minutes with the starters. Didn't just throw all the trash out there at once.

SecondTake · Post #64 » by **SecondTake** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:01 pm

SecondTake wrote:Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

Hey you're the guy with the stats. Can you answer this?

Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

NaturalThunder · Post #65 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:05 pm

SecondTake wrote:Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

Download the Enhanced ESPN NBA Box Score extension for chrome.

Our ORtg today was 126.0 and our DRtg was 108.1.

Post #66 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:08 pm

SecondTake wrote:
SecondTake wrote:Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

Hey you're the guy with the stats. Can you answer this?

Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

You seem to be struggling.

NaturalThunder · Post #67 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:12 pm

SecondTake wrote:
SecondTake wrote:Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

Hey you're the guy with the stats. Can you answer this?

Where can I see ORTG/DRTG for a game that just ended?

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhanced-espn-nba-box-sco/obmjelnefbpppnlclofadlniafdnhjpc?hl=en

Pillendreher · Post #68 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:16 pm

Since the Washington game, we have scored an average of 117.7 points per 100 possessions. Our opponents over that stretch combine for an average DRtG of 109.7 on the season. So over the last two weeks, we've outperformed our opposing defenses by 8 points per 100 possessions.

Unfortunately, our defense has fallen off a cliff at the same time. :banghead:

Pillendreher · Post #69 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:05 pm

Read on Twitter

NaturalThunder · Post #70 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:27 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Since the Washington game, we have scored an average of 117.7 points per 100 possessions. Our opponents over that stretch combine for an average DRtG of 109.7 on the season. So over the last two weeks, we've outperformed our opposing defenses by 8 points per 100 possessions.

Unfortunately, our defense has fallen off a cliff at the same time.

Very frustrating. Even if our defense had just performed at, like, league average level over this 8 game stretch(going back to the Wizards game), instead of being 3-5 with some truly awful losses, we'd be 6-2 or 7-1.

Osirus89 · Post #71 » by **Osirus89** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:16 am

Just caught some of the game because of the wacky time, but team looked to be having a good shooting night and the box score kinda confirms it.

A pretty uneventful but dominant performance which there have been far too few of this season, but is a welcome sight nonetheless.

I how Schroder carries over his shooting into the Portland game tommorow and didn't waste all of his mojo on the game today. He'll get killed on D, but at least he can contribute points.

spearsy23 · Post #72 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:20 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Dennis Schroder is not a good basketball player.

Well today he's feasting!

That said, our defense doesn't look that good. Knicks are so challenged they shouldn't be allowed to break 90 points against us. Diallo is terrible.

He’s 4-11 and has more assists than turnovers.

Like he said, that's virtuoso for Dennis

Ontario · Post #73 » by **Ontario** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:47 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:Given our recent performances against really bad teams, I have less than zero hope for a win today.

I expect tank commander Russ to have a triple double while shooting 6-30 from the field and 1-12 from 3.

I almost spit my coffee out when I read this.... are you not the guy who spent the last two summers in a row begging the team to start tanking?

Kizz Fastfists · Post #74 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:42 pm

Ontario wrote:I almost spit my coffee out when I read this.... are you not the guy who spent the last two summers in a row begging the team to start tanking?

Tanking was and still is the best course of action for the franchise. I'll never consider having the highest payroll in the NBA for a team that isn't going to make it past the first round a good thing. I consider the current state of the franchise to be a complete failure by the front office.

SecondTake · Post #75 » by **SecondTake** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Ontario wrote:I almost spit my coffee out when I read this.... are you not the guy who spent the last two summers in a row begging the team to start tanking?

Tanking was and still is the best course of action for the franchise. I'll never consider having the highest payroll in the NBA for a team that isn't going to make it past the first round a good thing. I consider the current state of the franchise to be a complete failure by the front office.

Come back to me after we win the chip.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #76 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:08 pm

SecondTake wrote:Come back to me after we win the chip.

What does them winning a potato chip endorsement have to do with winning basketball games?

CROklahoma · Post #77 » by **CROklahoma** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:16 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Ontario wrote:I almost spit my coffee out when I read this.... are you not the guy who spent the last two summers in a row begging the team to start tanking?

Tanking was and still is the best course of action for the franchise. I'll never consider having the highest payroll in the NBA for a team that isn't going to make it past the first round a good thing. I consider the current state of the franchise to be a complete failure by the front office.

What are you, an economist looking for good wealth health among billionares ?

Get the **** out of here with this kind of moronic statements :roll:

Kizz Fastfists · Post #78 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:41 pm

CROklahoma wrote:Get the **** out of here with this kind of moronic statements

Are you happy that OKC has the goal of just making the playoffs? Do you not want the franchise to be taking a course that has the potential to lead to a championship? I know lots of people who are happy that OKC is likely to make the playoffs and they don't care about anything after that. I'm just not one of those people. If you do not have a path to the championship with your current core, which OKC doesn't, then it is time to rebuild.

If you believe OKC can win a championship with a declining Russ then we will just have to disagree on where OKC stands within the NBA. If OKC had a competent coach then I could see an argument for this roster having a shot at the WCF, but Donovan could coach GS into a first round exit. There is not a potential playoff team in the West that OKC should be favored to beat in a 7 game series.

CROklahoma · Post #79 » by **CROklahoma** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:07 pm

I don't care how much money is spent on a team. Dont give a flying F'.
People running OKC are, or are a part of groupations of one of the biggest zionists, who are running (ruining) the whole world, and live better than 99,999999999% of the planet.
They could spend 99% of their private money on Westbrook's, Adams and George's of our worlds, and with 1% being left they'd still be among the richest people.

They'll be in the playoffs, and they'll compete for second round. Thats all I know.
Who knows whats gonna be in the books after. So many factors to consider.
The goal of OKC for a year or two is clear. Maximize everything around Russ and PG.
I cannot be unhappy with this situation OKC is in, we could have been in a lot worse situation, considering KD left.
I think Presti did a very good-great job getting PG and some of the role guys around.

Ofcourse, he can/could do better.

I'm not a tank propagator. I think there are a lot better ways to manouver through "talent drought" phase with great picking later in draft, being patent with youth, and doing a move or two on deadlines, along with GREAT coaching staff means you can be competitive, and have a lot of upside through out whole decade.
Thats why I'm opposed to not trade any of our current youngsters, Diallo, TFerg.
Those were classic Presti picks which made this franchise become relevant on the whole NBA scene.

San Antonio is a clear example of great and successive seasons.
Brooklyn's new FO alongside coaching staff showed IMMENSE job they did getting that franchise from the rock bottom.
Boston is another great example.

The whole small-big market thing doesn't mean a lot nowadays. If anything, I think being a small market helps develop younger guys into more stable, reliable characters that can maximize their talent.

I totaly dont favourize our current coaching staff, as I clearly believe they ain't nowhere near the talent level of lets say Brooklyn's, Dallas, or SAS staff's.

I think if Billy was surrounded with more competent assistants he'd be in a lot better position. I just don't like some of the there.
Mo Cheeks, Vin Bhavnani ??? Come on ...

Dn4sty · Post #80 » by **Dn4sty** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:46 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
CROklahoma wrote:Get the **** out of here with this kind of moronic statements

Are you happy that OKC has the goal of just making the playoffs? Do you not want the franchise to be taking a course that has the potential to lead to a championship? I know lots of people who are happy that OKC is likely to make the playoffs and they don't care about anything after that. I'm just not one of those people. If you do not have a path to the championship with your current core, which OKC doesn't, then it is time to rebuild.

If you believe OKC can win a championship with a declining Russ then we will just have to disagree on where OKC stands within the NBA. If OKC had a competent coach then I could see an argument for this roster having a shot at the WCF, but Donovan could coach GS into a first round exit. There is not a potential playoff team in the West that OKC should be favored to beat in a 7 game series.

I remaining firmly unconvinced that tanking is the best way to build a team.

Here are the players in the last 5 drafts that are either already massive difference makers on there team or will far outplay their draft slot

Jarrett Allen
Kyle Kuzma
John Collins
Caris Levert
Pascal Siakam
Dejounte Murray
Malcolm Brogdon
Terry Rozier
Josh Richardson
Jusuf Nurkic
Gary Harris
Clint Capella
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Nikola Jokic

This list doesn’t include any 2018 draft picks. Every one of these guys were available post lottery. In other words there is massive talent available EVERY year for non tanking teams.

Further I think tanking stunts the development of the actual players on your roster.

Lastly the most recent example of a mega tank (which is what you suggest) netted the 76ers Embiid, Simmons, and a digruntled Butler. They have a cool Heat pick in a few years, but there is no telling how Embiid will hold up. I don’t think that the 76ers future is really anything to be super excited about.

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