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Post#1621 » by Dn4sty » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:39 pm

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Dn4sty wrote:OKC interested in Rodney Hood per Shams

Ugh yuck


Why, it’s not like he starts. The only concern is giving up something of value for what would essentially be a rental.

I’d much rather go after someone like Ross, as he at least he comes with bird rights.
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Post#1622 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:00 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
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Dn4sty wrote:OKC interested in Rodney Hood per Shams

Ugh yuck


Why, it’s not like he starts. The only concern is giving up something of value for what would essentially be a rental.

I’d much rather go after someone like Ross, as he at least he comes with bird rights.

Because he's always hurt and was too scared to go in to the game during the playoffs last year.
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Post#1623 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:04 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:OKC interested in Rodney Hood per Shams
Source?



Read on Twitter
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That sounds more like

"Teams are calling about Hood"

"The Thunder are looking for wing help"

The wording avoids making a direct connection.

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Ugh yuck


Why, it’s not like he starts. The only concern is giving up something of value for what would essentially be a rental.

I’d much rather go after someone like Ross, as he at least he comes with bird rights.

Because he's always hurt and was too scared to go in to the game during the playoffs last year.


At worst you traded a SRP if it doesn't work out.
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Post#1624 » by Dn4sty » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:06 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Source?



Read on Twitter
?s=21


That sounds more like

"Teams are calling about Hood"

"The Thunder are looking for wing help"

The wording avoids making a direct connection.

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Dn4sty wrote:
Why, it’s not like he starts. The only concern is giving up something of value for what would essentially be a rental.

I’d much rather go after someone like Ross, as he at least he comes with bird rights.

Because he's always hurt and was too scared to go in to the game during the playoffs last year.


At worst you traded a SRP if it doesn't work out.


The more I read it, I think you are correct.
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Post#1625 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:10 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21


That sounds more like

"Teams are calling about Hood"

"The Thunder are looking for wing help"

The wording avoids making a direct connection.

ThunderBolt wrote:Because he's always hurt and was too scared to go in to the game during the playoffs last year.


At worst you traded a SRP if it doesn't work out.


The more I read it, I think you are correct.



I guess he could be an upgrade over Nader or TLC. I just hope that's not the only move we make otherwise its going to be Randy Foye level of disappointing for me.
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Post#1626 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:24 pm

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Dn4sty wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
That sounds more like

"Teams are calling about Hood"

"The Thunder are looking for wing help"

The wording avoids making a direct connection.



At worst you traded a SRP if it doesn't work out.


The more I read it, I think you are correct.



I guess he could be an upgrade over Nader or TLC. I just hope that's not the only move we make otherwise its going to be Randy Foye level of disappointing for me.


Hood can play though. He's a 37 % career 3pt shooter (which would rank 4th on our team), is able to convert on opportunities at the rim (His 63.4 % at the rim for his career would rank 7th on this squad, right there with Westbrook and George for the season ; different shot difficulty of course though) and is also a decent enough midrange shooter (42.0 % for his career on 2pt jumpshots). Even this season on a horrible, horribe Cavs team he has been able to convert at a decent rate:

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His defense may be suspect, but I like the upside of adding somebody who can just make a couple of shots. Also: He's a 84 % career FT shooter. :lol:
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Post#1627 » by cjmcallist » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:37 pm

I'd argue opportunity cost. I guess if we give up TLC and Felton, I can be on board with it.

Feels like we only have so many shots to shoot. I don't know if I want us to shoot it on a player that doesn't move the needle.
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Post#1628 » by CROklahoma » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:18 pm

I'd rather not give up PPat or Abrines for Hood.
Ppat is on a rise obviously, and Abrines deserves healthy season
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Post#1629 » by SecondTake » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:39 pm

OR Nader, who is a better shooter than Hood
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Post#1630 » by RalphSampsonJr » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:46 pm

Hood would be great for the 2nd unit. He can create for himself enough. Solid shooter. You play him 15-20 mins a game he shouldnt hurt you too much on D.
Abrines and a 2nd for him. Hes not signing with the cavs and is a FA after this. Give the cavs the expiring Abrines back with a 2nd. Dunno if you wanna give up anymore than that
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Post#1631 » by spearsy23 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:29 am

Hood would immediately be the best bench wing on the team. Not that it means a lot, but I don't see why you'd pass on him for cheap.
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Post#1632 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:54 pm

I hereby present to you you’re 2019 NBA champions- http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc6nq7wn

Remove pick protections for Atlanta.
Give NYK a second round pick.
Not sure on the value of the Memphis trade. I’m mostly impressed I got the trade machine to approve the trade.
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Post#1633 » by Pillendreher » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:55 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I hereby present to you you’re 2019 NBA champions- http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc6nq7wn

Remove pick protections for Atlanta.
Give NYK a second round pick.
Not sure on the value of the Memphis trade. I’m mostly impressed I got the trade machine to approve the trade.


Excellent trade.
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Post#1634 » by slick_watts » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:04 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I hereby present to you you’re 2019 NBA champions- http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc6nq7wn

Remove pick protections for Atlanta.
Give NYK a second round pick.
Not sure on the value of the Memphis trade. I’m mostly impressed I got the trade machine to approve the trade.


conley's still really good. i think memphis could get more than this for him. i'm not sure i'd remove the protections on the atlanta pick for prince.
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Post#1635 » by Pillendreher » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:12 pm

slick_watts wrote:conley's still really good. i think memphis could get more than this for him.


His value is a very interesting topic imo. As a pessimist, I'd say that you're in danger of trading for 60+ million in dead money. Since the 2014/2015 season, he has missed almost 45 % of the regular season games. What's the risk of him doing that again in the future? Or is that the reseason why you don't have to give up vastly more than what some fans have proposed?
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Post#1636 » by slick_watts » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:13 pm

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slick_watts wrote:conley's still really good. i think memphis could get more than this for him.


His value is a very interesting topic imo. As a pessimist, I'd say that you're in danger of trading for 60+ million in dead money. Since the 2014/2015 season, he has missed almost 45 % of the regular season games. What's the risk of him doing that again in the future? Or is that the reseason why you don't have to give up vastly more than what some fans have proposed?


dre + schroder is essentially dead money the next two years for a rebuilding memphis. i don't see the rationale without draft consideration attached. i don't think memphis would find too much difficulty getting bad money back with at least a pick or two.
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Post#1637 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:45 pm

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slick_watts wrote:conley's still really good. i think memphis could get more than this for him.


His value is a very interesting topic imo. As a pessimist, I'd say that you're in danger of trading for 60+ million in dead money. Since the 2014/2015 season, he has missed almost 45 % of the regular season games. What's the risk of him doing that again in the future? Or is that the reseason why you don't have to give up vastly more than what some fans have proposed?


The trade was mostly an exercise to see if it was even possible.

Vonleh- He may only be worth a 2rp but I think someone will offer more than that, especially if they have the ability to re-sign him. Otherwise there really is no incentive for the Knicks to trade him.

Conley- due to braintrusts like Grunfeld and Colangelo, Memphis has kind of flown under the radar as a completely incompetent front office. They clearly should have went in rebuild mode last year. Instead they give up picks in a win-now move for holiday and then completely change course a couple of weeks later. Their incompetence could mean that they expect they’ll get a top ten pick for Conley or maybe they think a player like Dennis Schroder is worth taking a chance on.

Prince- I think the value is fair but Atlanta doesn’t really need another guard, especially one that can’t shoot when Travis schkenk is trying to copy the warriors.
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Post#1638 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:00 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Conley- due to braintrusts like Grunfeld and Colangelo, Memphis has kind of flown under the radar as a completely incompetent front office. They clearly should have went in rebuild mode last year. Instead they give up picks in a win-now move for holiday and then completely change course a couple of weeks later. Their incompetence could mean that they expect they’ll get a top ten pick for Conley or maybe they think a player like Dennis Schroder is worth taking a chance on.


Not getting value for Reke when he clearly wasn't going to sign: malpractice of the highest order. Getting Temple was a good move, and JJJ and Brooks were good picks. But they've whiffed some stuff BADLY.
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Post#1639 » by Pillendreher » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:09 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Conley- due to braintrusts like Grunfeld and Colangelo, Memphis has kind of flown under the radar as a completely incompetent front office. They clearly should have went in rebuild mode last year. Instead they give up picks in a win-now move for holiday and then completely change course a couple of weeks later. Their incompetence could mean that they expect they’ll get a top ten pick for Conley or maybe they think a player like Dennis Schroder is worth taking a chance on.


Not getting value for Reke when he clearly wasn't going to sign: malpractice of the highest order. Getting Temple was a good move, and JJJ and Brooks were good picks. But they've whiffed some stuff BADLY.


Something I think that matters when it comes to these "Let's tear it down" kind of trades: Who's going to be in charge for that whole process? If the current FO thinks it still has a chance, maybe they go for the short term play instead of long term.
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Post#1640 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:15 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Conley- due to braintrusts like Grunfeld and Colangelo, Memphis has kind of flown under the radar as a completely incompetent front office. They clearly should have went in rebuild mode last year. Instead they give up picks in a win-now move for holiday and then completely change course a couple of weeks later. Their incompetence could mean that they expect they’ll get a top ten pick for Conley or maybe they think a player like Dennis Schroder is worth taking a chance on.


Not getting value for Reke when he clearly wasn't going to sign: malpractice of the highest order. Getting Temple was a good move, and JJJ and Brooks were good picks. But they've whiffed some stuff BADLY.


Something I think that matters when it comes to these "Let's tear it down" kind of trades: Who's going to be in charge for that whole process? If the current FO thinks it still has a chance, maybe they go for the short term play instead of long term.


Memphis is a small enough market I'm not sure they can afford to tear it down for multiple seasons.
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